The Official LxLB 2011 Rules/Discussion Thread

[MadBird11]

I think this is the 5th one. Damn, this board is old. Anyway

Nominating Bands:

-Each Participant will submit a list of 12 bands, including one headliner-size act, which should be bolded.
-Lists should include one song per band to be used for sampling/playlists
- It is not required but would be extremely helpful if these lists were alphabetized
-Lists are first come first served. No calling specific bands. Have backups. Have backups to your backups.
- Please keep the… “Critiquing” of peoples choice of bands to a minimum. It’s going to happen, but really; if you don’t like them, don’t vote for them.
- What bands aren’t eligible to be nominated

• Any band who played the actual Lollapalooza this year (I have the list)
• Any band that played as part of this project last year (I have that list too)
• Any band that has headlined any of the past 3 Lollapalooza’s (09, 10, 11)
• Any band that is deemed by the board to “play every year” (The Cure, David
Bowie, etc.)
• Any band that has not played a public show in at least 18 months or is not currently considered active
• Solo artists that do not have announced solo dates. For example, Jack White can only perform with the Raconteurs.
• Nominated bands can perform specific albums only if they’ve been touring doing so. Roger Waters can perform The Wall. Metallica can perform the Black Album. Hell, Weezer can perform Pinkerton if you want to go that route.
- Nominations will start at a TBD date and run for 5-6 days

The Ranking Committee:

- Consists of 5 members, 2 of which have already been decided
-MUST BE COMMITTED TO COMPLETE TASKS ON TIME!!!!
- Idea is to take all bands complied, determine appropriate time slots for all of them, and group them accordingly
- Quick turnaround: 24-48 hours per step

Voting:

- Once ranking committee does their job, 12 polls for all different sized acts
-Will either be started by me or whoever wants to create one, whatever the people decide
-Pick 6 or however many you’re allowed to pick

Playlists:

-Playlists will need to be constructed for all the bands in the poll based on songs suggested with nominations
-We could have one guy do all of it, or several per poll, again depending on what option we decide to go with

Scheduling:

-Still need one person to oversee this part
-Approximately 6 schedules will be made once voting is finalized
• If more than 6 people want to do this, they’ll be selected at random
• If selected for Ranking Committee, you cannot participate in scheduling. However, if you are not selected for the ranking committee, you can still participate in making a schedule
-When voted on, all schedules will be anonymous to ensure that nobody’s reputation (or lack thereof) will prevent them from getting votes
-PLEASE BE COMMITTED TO TURNING THESE IN ON TIME

Poster: Do we still have the old templet somewhere? If not, who wants it?

And, if there are any huge holes that I forgot, now would be the time to tell me. Also, feel free to critique any of this. I just tried to remember what was done last year.

[MadBird11]

I also can't remember who wants to do what, so let's make a list. Do one or both, but if you want to do both, star which one you'd want to do more.

Ranking Committee

Submitting a Schedule

[Krentistthedentist]

A$AP Rocky
Bad Brains
Baroness
Black Tusk
Girls
GZA performing Liquid Swords
Mastodon
Orange Goblin
The Throne
Waka Flocka Flame
Watain
The Weeknd


Predicted success: 5/12

[concertgoer]

Ranking Committee
concertgoer

Submitting a Schedule
concertgoer*

[MadBird11]

I'll make a different thread for bands once I get this settled. Probably in a day or two.

But for the love of God, make sure Krent can nominate the Throne.

[MadBird11]

The Throne
Waka Flocka Flame
Bad Brains
Watain
Orange Goblin
Girls
A$AP Rocky
Black Tusk
GZA performing Liquid Swords (not sure what the stipulations are on this but it just happened at RtB)
Mastodon

We're not doing nominations yet and I'm not forwarding this into the band thread.

[Krentistthedentist]

Open the fucking nominations thread

[MadBird11]

Calm down. Make your list and I'll forward it. You're the only one I'm doing this for. Read the rules and tell me if I fucked up somewhere.

[Krentistthedentist]

You didn't fuck up (fyi it's usually 15 bands but that might have been a deliberate choice), but I do suggest posting a list of ineligible bands up top in the noms thread.

Also a special perry's nominations thread like last year for the homos that like dubstep.

[MadBird11]

I made a deliberate choice to cap at 12 because, based on the interest survey, I'm expecting 36-40 sets of noms, and 480 bands seems manageable compared to 600.

I have lists of ineligible bands in addition to permanently ineligible bands that will be placed at the top of the nomination thread.

Did we do a Perry's thread last year? I thought we just did it all together.

[Five_Hole]

I do suggest posting a list of ineligible bands up top in the noms thread.

I suggest you do this in advance of opening nominations by a few days.

[Krentistthedentist]

Did we do a Perry's thread last year? I thought we just did it all together.

We did because the board no longer has anything in common with the average lollagoer and gives 0 fucks about EDM

[MadBird11]

Since I'm aiming for Wednesday at the latest, here we are, at least 95% anyway. As mentioned in the first post, all bands from Lolla 11, LxLB 2010, and headliners from the previous 3 Lollapalooza's. In addition, an all time banned list will be made probably tomorrow morning, which I'll also post here.


12th Planet
A Perfect Circle
A Place to Bury Strangers
Adam Freeland
Afrojak
Aimee Mann
Air
An Horse
Ana Tijoux
Andrew W.K.
Aphex Twin
Arctic Monkeys
Arcade Fire
Atmosphere
The Avalanches
Avi Buffalo
Bat for Lashes
Beach House
Beastie Boys
Beats Antique
Beirut
Belle and Sebastian
Best Coast
Big Audio Dynamite
Big Boi
Bjork
Black Cards
Black Lips
The Bloody Beatroots Death Crew 77
Bonobo
Boy & Bear
Bright Eyes
Busy P
Butthole Surfers
Cage the Elephant
Caribou
Carl
The Cars
Ceci Bastida
Cee-Lo Green
The Chain Gang of 1974
Chico Trujillo
Christina Perri
Chuckie
City and Colour
Cloud Nothings
Coldplay
Cold War Kids
Collie Buddz
The Cool Kids
Crystal Castles
Cults
The Cure
Curren$y
Daedelus
Daft Punk
Dale Earnhardt Jr. Jr.
Damian “Jr. Gong” Marley & Nas
David Byrne
Deadmau5
Death From Above 1979
Deftones
Delta Spirit
Deluka
Depeche Mode
Destroyer
Die Antwoord
Dinosaur Jr.
Disappears
DJ Jazzy Jeff
DJ Kool Herc
DJ Mel
DJ Neil Armstrong
DJ Pauly D
Dom
The Drums
Duck Sauce
Earl Greyhound
Electric Touch
Ellie Goulding
Emeralds
Eminem
Explosions in the Sky
Faithless
Fences
Feed Me
The Field
Fitz & the Tantrums
Flogging Molly
Florence & the Machine
Foo Fighters
Foster the People
The Frames
Freddie Gibbs
Friendly Fires
Flying Lotus
Gang of Four
Garbage
Gary Numan
Gauntlet Hair
Girl Talk
The Glitch Mob
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Gold Motel
Gold Panda
Grace Potter & the Nocturnals
Green Day
Green Velvet
Grinderman
Groove Armada
Grouplove
Guided by Voices
How to Dress Well
The Hives
Imelda May
Iration
J. Roddy Walston and the Business
Jaill
James Blake
Janelle Monae
Jane’s Addiction
Japandroids
Jay Electronica
The Jesus and Mary Chain
Joachim Garraud
The Joy Formidable
Julia Easterlin
Kele
Kerli
Kid Cudi
Kids These Days
The Killers
The Kills
Kings of Leon
The Kingston Springs
Klaxons
The Knife
Kyle Lucas & Captain Nidnite
Kylesa
Lady D
Lady Gaga
Le Butcherettes
Lia Ices
Light
Liquid Liquid
Lissie
Little Hurricane
Local Natives
Lord Huron
Los Bunkers
The Love Language
Lykke Li
Magic Lantern
Magnetic Man
Major Lazer
Man Man
Manchester Orchestra
Maps & Atlases
Matthew Dear
Mayer Hawthorne & the County
Melvins
Maximum Balloon
Midnight Conspiracy
Moderat
Modeselektor
The Mountain Goats
Mt. Desolation
Muse
MV & EE
My Bloody Valentine
My Brightest Diamond
My Morning Jacket
The Naked and Famous
Narcisse
Noah & The Whale
OFWGKTA
OK Go
Okkervil River
Old 97’s
OMD
Owen Pallett
The Pains of Being Pure at Heart
Panda Bear
Pantha Du Prince
Patrick Stump
Perryetty vs Chris Cox
Phantogram
Phoenix
Phosphorescent
Portugal. The Man
Pretty Lights
The Pretty Reckless
Proxy
Pulp
Queens of the Stone Age
Radio Dept.
Rakim
The Rapture
Ratatat
Real Estate
Reptar
Rival Schools
Robyn
The Rolling Stones
The Rollins Band
Roxy Music
Royksopp
Ruby Jane
Ryan Bingham & The Dead Horses
Ryan Leslie
Sam Adams
Savoy
School of Seven Bells
Shabazz Palaces
Shit Robot
Skrillex
Skylar Gray
Sleigh Bells
Smith Westerns
Soundgarden
Spiritualized
The Strokes
Superchunk
Super Mash Bros.
Surfer Blood
Switch
The Sword
Tab the Band
Tallest Man on Earth
Teddy Bears
Tennis
Tinie Tempah
Titus Andronicus
Tobacco
Tool
Toro y Moi
Trentmoller
Twin Shadow
Twin Sister
Two Door Cinema Club
Typhoon
The Vaccines
Walk the Moon
Weekend
Ween
Weird Al
White Lies
Wild Nothing
Willow Smith
Wire
Wye Oak
Ximena Sarinana
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Yo La Tengo
Young Man
Young the Giant
The Zombies

[MadBird11]

We did because the board no longer has anything in common with the average lollagoer and gives 0 fucks about EDM

Noted.

[Krentistthedentist]

Question: #1 headliners.
Last year, the stipulation was that no bands who have ever gotten top billing (minus the Pixies) could play. Should we open this round of voting up to Pearl Jam, Radiohead, and Red Hot Chili Peppers?

[MadBird11]

I suggest you do this in advance of opening nominations by a few days.

Done. Are you still willing to be the playlist guru this year?

[Five_Hole]

I believe there was also a stipulation that you could only nominate one headliner sized (top 6) band.

[Krentistthedentist]

Is the playlist going to be on Spotify or Grooveshark?

[Krentistthedentist]

I believe there was also a stipulation that you could only nominate one headliner sized (top 6) band.

That has been addressed in the OP

[MadBird11]

Question: #1 headliners.
Last year, the stipulation was that no bands who have ever gotten top billing (minus the Pixies) could play. Should we open this round of voting up to Pearl Jam, Radiohead, and Red Hot Chili Peppers?

All 3 of these bands are on the soon to be formulated all time banned list, so yes.

[Krentistthedentist]

That made 0 sense.

[Krentistthedentist]

What about bands who have headlined twice but never taken #1 billing (I believe this one only applies to Kanye West solo and Wilco. Possibly the Killers as well but I think they are already gone cos 2009). I'd be willing to adjust if the throne is deemed ineligible on the grounds that one of its members has already played 2x.

[Five_Hole]

Done. Are you still willing to be the playlist guru this year?

I think I ultimately ended up only creating one playlist last year. Nizzle did a bunch if I remember correctly.

[MadBird11]

That made 0 sense.

Let me try again:

I have a list going of bands that have been nominated multiple times over previous LxLB's that should never be nominated again in order to keep the thing fresh. Headliners are pretty easy (Bowie, Cure, Bjork, etc.), including all previous #1 headliners in real life Lolla. The real issue is undercard/subheadliner acts that people keep nominating aside from A Tribe Called Quest and David Byrne.

[Krentistthedentist]

I believe all of the old LxLBs have been lost.

[MadBird11]

What about bands who have headlined twice but never taken #1 billing (I believe this one only applies to Kanye West solo and Wilco. Possibly the Killers as well but I think they are already gone cos 2009). I'd be willing to adjust if the throne is deemed ineligible on the grounds that one of its members has already played 2x.

I am keeping them eligible based on that and the fact that they could ultimately be at the real Lolla next year. However, we can only have The Throne or Jay-Z and Kanye solo shows nominated, not both.

[MadBird11]

I think I ultimately ended up only creating one playlist last year. Nizzle did a bunch if I remember correctly.

I haven't seen Nizzle in a while. I know that you expressed interest previously, and I was wondering if you could do all of them or even just a few. It should be pretty easy since I'm requiring songs to be posted with nominations.

[MadBird11]

I believe all of the old LxLBs have been lost.

And here lies the problem with the undercard...

[Five_Hole]

I haven't seen Nizzle in a while. I know that you expressed interest previously, and I was wondering if you could do all of them or even just a few. It should be pretty easy since I'm requiring songs to be posted with nominations.

I could probably do a few but it is probably best to just split up the work amongst the group of people creating the polls. You create a poll -> you create the accompanying playlist.

[Krentistthedentist]

Previous headliners
2010 was: Prince, REM, Jay-Z, Portishead, Beck, the Pixies
2008: Radiohead, Beastie Boys, Arcade Fire, the Strokes, Other band, Other band
2009: David Bowie, The Cure, Outkast, Bjork, someone, someone.

If anyone could help me fill in the gaps it would be much appreciated.

[nikolajz1]

Ranking Committee
concertgoer
nikolajz1

Submitting a Schedule
concertgoer*
nikolajz1
.

[MadBird11]

Previous headliners
2010 was: Prince, REM, Jay-Z, Portishead, Beck, the Pixies
2008: Radiohead, Beastie Boys, Arcade Fire, the Strokes, Other band, Other band
2009: David Bowie, The Cure, Outkast, Bjork, someone, someone.

If anyone could help me fill in the gaps it would be much appreciated.

Everything bolded is on said list, either for this year or all-time.

[Krentistthedentist]

You realize that one of the bands you did not bold has since broken up, right?

[MadBird11]

I could probably do a few but it is probably best to just split up the work amongst the group of people creating the polls. You create a poll -> you create the accompanying playlist.

Sounds good to me. Also, the place the playlist is created should be universal for each poll. Whether that's spotify or what I don't know.

[MadBird11]

You realize that one of the bands you did not bold has since broken up, right?

Well, yeah. Did I really need to spell that out for everyone? If so, I should probably put Gil-Scott Heron on the big list of bands banned this year too.

[Krentistthedentist]

Bryn might need a little extra reminder.

[MadBird11]

What I really can't wait for is for johnd or someone else from the lineup forum to come in and nominate multiple bands that are ineligible.

[nikkirkpatrick]

I'll do some polls/playlists.

[nikkirkpatrick]

What I really can't wait for is for johnd or someone else from the lineup forum to come in and nominate multiple bands that are ineligible.

Johnd vs oasisfan derpfest 2011

[teekoh]

Ranking Committee
concertgoer
nikolajz1
teekoh

Submitting a Schedule
concertgoer*
nikolajz1

[Krentistthedentist]

How about folks like Sufjan Stevens and Agalloch who don't play outdoor shows?

[TrapThis]

Ranking Committee
concertgoer
nikolajz1
teekoh

Submitting a Schedule
concertgoer*
nikolajz1
TrapThis

.

[90sRevival]

Ranking Committee
concertgoer
nikolajz1
teekoh

Submitting a Schedule
concertgoer*
nikolajz1
TrapThis
90sRevival

I'd also be cool to make schedules and playlists if need be.

[90sRevival]

How about folks like Sufjan Stevens and Agalloch who don't play outdoor shows?

stop :(

[fishkingpies]

sufjan did play outdoors in prospect in brooklyn this year.

[MadBird11]

I would like to point out/ask a few things of the ranking committee/board.

1. There are a few acts not named as headliners that I think have a legitimate case to be so. The biggest name is Paul Simon, but there are others. What do we want to do with those?

2. Is Blur confirmed to play (public) shows in the near future? Faith No More? Other acts on the list. The goal is to make this as plausible as possible, but if we want to leave them as is, that's fine too. I just want a few other opinions.

[concertgoer]

Blur said in NME that they might be playing shows in America in 2012

[Krentistthedentist]

I see about 2.5 headliners listed as subs in the nomination thread already.

[concertgoer]

Didn't we have some pretty big subs last year?

[Krentistthedentist]

The bands are: Blur, Drake, and Bon Iver
discuss.

EDIT: I guess Paul Simon is also nominated? I'm not so sure about that one. In some respects he's huge in other respects zzzzzzz

[MadBird11]

They're too big, but I'm not on the ranking committee. Speaking of which, where are the 7 other people that said they'd be interested in that, maybe.

[Krentistthedentist]

At this point Drake could fill up the United Center.
Massive had a hard time filling up the riv.
Rankings are bunk.

[symbionese]

Blur said in NME that they might be playing shows in America in 2012

nme is the cos of the uk.

[symbionese]

I would like to point out/ask a few things of the ranking committee/board.

1. There are a few acts not named as headliners that I think have a legitimate case to be so. The biggest name is Paul Simon, but there are others. What do we want to do with those?

2. Is Blur confirmed to play (public) shows in the near future? Faith No More? Other acts on the list. The goal is to make this as plausible as possible, but if we want to leave them as is, that's fine too. I just want a few other opinions.

let everyone make their lists. once the deadline passes, slot inappropriate or ineligible bands will be struck. that person will have x hours to nominate someone else.

[MadBird11]

Sounds good to me.

[Krentistthedentist]

let everyone make their lists. once the deadline passes, slot inappropriate or ineligible bands will be struck. that person will have x hours to nominate someone else.

So could someone else hypothetically nominate Drake as a headliner under the (obvious) assumption that he isn't going to fly as a sub?

[Krentistthedentist]

I don't want to jinx anything but I know at least one slot is definitely spoken for.
Anyone smarter than a rock should be able to figure out what/who I mean.

[TrapThis]

So could someone else hypothetically nominate Drake as a headliner under the (obvious) assumption that he isn't going to fly as a sub?

Yeah, I was really conflicted about that one. I would be perfectly fine with someone re-nominating him.

[symbionese]

So could someone else hypothetically nominate Drake as a headliner under the (obvious) assumption that he isn't going to fly as a sub?

hypothetically? of course.

[Krentistthedentist]

Looking at the nominations for this year, I'm starting to think we may need to put the same restrictions on subs as we do on headliners (for next year, though).

[fishkingpies]

how so?

[MadBird11]

I mean, it'll be easier next year when a lot of these board favorite bands are off for last year. It would've helped if the banned list featured more non-headliner sized bands, but again, we lost everything in the board changeover.

[Krentistthedentist]

how so?

Many lists this year looks like my list from last year

[stupka32]

I like this better than mine:

Beady Eye "The Roller" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcOJu0g8dbw
Broken Bells "The High Road" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWBG1j_flrg&ob=av2e
Eric Church "Springsteen" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HBh7cVZubk
The Flaming Lips "Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots pt. 1" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq-W-4Izjwc&ob=av2e
The Hold Steady "Sweet Part of the City" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJg7-Ryqy8s
Jimmy Eat World "Hear You Me" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A98blZEG-0o
Matthew Sweet "Girlfriend" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzl3AB5tw-w
The Postal Service "Such Great Heights" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wrsZog8qXg&ob=av2e
Rage Against The Machine "Sleep Now In The Fire" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w211KOQ5BMI&ob=av2e
Ray Lamontagne "For The Summer" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC7UyLQNigw
Third Eye Blind "Motorcycle Drive By" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf63l6Y2k8A
Weezer (all blue album and Pinkerton) "The Good Life" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkroIXktjgE&ob=av2e

[fishkingpies]

i guess. i don't really know. i see about the same amount of variety/new names we get for this thing every year. question is whether people will vote for the fresh faces or go with the usual decemberists/black keys/band of horses etc.

though the ranking committee really should go through the nominations so far because there are tons of obvious/borderline headliners nom'd as subs right now. i mean if we're considering the raconteurs a headliner (which is probably legit at this point), then stuff like paul simon, weezer, & the flaming lips are headliners as well.

[carligula]

So could someone else hypothetically nominate Drake as a headliner under the (obvious) assumption that he isn't going to fly as a sub?

For this reason, I think we need to debate possible headliners from the pool of non-headliners as they come in. It doesn't seem fair to exclude acts from the list because the nominator wanted to nominate more than one headliner.

In addition to Paul Simon and Drake, I think Weezer playing their first two albums and Van Halen would both easily be top 6 acts. We should discuss that now so we can let other folks nominate those acts.

I'll be submitting my list tomorrow. I'm going to do my best to nominate acts of a variety of sizes.

[carligula]

2. Is Blur confirmed to play (public) shows in the near future? Faith No More? Other acts on the list. The goal is to make this as plausible as possible, but if we want to leave them as is, that's fine too. I just want a few other opinions.

Faith No More said they were done and then, months later, announced a couple festival gigs. I think it's highly unlikely, but still reasonable.

[MadBird11]

Fair enough. Since nobody else is volunteering, I think we have our final 3 members of the ranking committee. Unless somebody else volunteers, that is.

[Fargo Gargo]

I didn't have any extra headliners, did I?

[MadBird11]

I think that Luda would be a headliner. Maybe Blondie too.

[Fargo Gargo]

I'm assuming Luda would be comparable to the year Snoop Dogg played. As for Blondie, I don't know one way or another, but here are the tour dates from the last go 'round if that helps: http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2011/07/06/blondie-tour-dates-panic-of-girls/

[stupka32]

Luda is not a headliner

[fowruok]

I think that Luda would be a headliner. Maybe Blondie too.

Neither would headline.

[Krentistthedentist]

As for Blondie, I don't know one way or another

rimshot

[Krentistthedentist]

I didn't have any extra headliners, did I?

No, you're good also thumbs up for R Kelly

[carligula]

Would Yusef Islam be a headliner as well? We don't really seem to have much to go on, but he's obviously an icon. Does he play anything but charity concerts?

[Krentistthedentist]

I don't think so.
Maybe at ACL x ACLB

[MadBird11]

Would Yusef Islam be a headliner as well? We don't really seem to have much to go on, but he's obviously an icon. Does he play anything but charity concerts?

I don't think so.

[fowruok]

My thoughts on the discussed headliner-worthiness:
Yes: Blur, Drake, Weezer, Van Halen
Borderline: Paul Simon (leaning toward 'no' at Lollapalooza)
No: Bon Iver, Ludacris, Blondie, Yusuf Islam

[Krentistthedentist]

What about the Flaming Lips?
I'm voting "yes"

[carligula]

Flaming Lips were 6th at ACL 2010, but there were only 5 true headliners that year as the Eagles played unopposed. I could see them go either way as the lowest headliner or biggest pre-headliner. Also, they play everything, so who cares?

Paul Simon had top billing over Foo Fighters and WSP at Hangout. Just because he would be a bad fit for Lolla doesn't mean he wouldn't be a top 3 act.

If Roth is back with Van Halen and they're promoting a new album, I think it's ridiculous to think they would be anything but a top 3 act-- once again, regardless of the fit for the festival.

Blur is in that weird area where they might not be appreciated enough here to headline. That's why a lot of folks think it's unlikely they would ever play Lolla. I would say they're a headliner, but I wouldn't argue with a spot before the #1 act.

Weezer has already headlined Lolla and while many think they've passed their peak a long time ago, I don't think they've fallen that far. They were billed 6th at Bonnaroo 2010-- a fest that will often stack to top of the lineup and undervalue "alternative rock" bands (like the Strokes last year and Yeah Yeah Yeahs in 2009).

[carligula]

I also wanted to give Five Hole props for nominating Metallica to play anything but the Black Album. That dude knows whats up. My picks are coming..

[carligula]

I just want to point out that I nominated Ben Folds Five because there has been talk of more new material and a possible tour following the new tracks on Ben's recent retrospective. I'd like to think they would be a headliner, but I don't think that would realistically be the case.

[Beefy Toe]

They wouldn't be... but I already nominated Ben Folds

[fowruok]

Ben Folds Five has a much better chance than Folds as a solo act.

[carligula]

They wouldn't be... but I already nominated Ben Folds

Fair enough. I'll go back to my original nomination of Anthrax.

(But I think you should you should change your nomination to the Five ;) )

[symbionese]

there is a method to this. it worked last year. it will work again this year.

all do not fret.

[Krentistthedentist]

SO participation is pretty fucking weak this year, huh?

[MadBird11]

Yeah, I dunno what's going on. Guess I'll bump the thread in the fans lounge again, see if that gets more lists.

[fishkingpies]

yeah. advertise in fans/lineup forums. if that doesn't work, bump up nom's from 12 to 15 or something.

[MadBird11]

That's the plan.

[Krentistthedentist]

This is fun and I think it's nice that Modbord included an all timed banned list so that the same fucking headliners that always show up aren't there.

[fishkingpies]

right. that way we can get more jay-z (who's been on the list before) and kanye (who's played the real lolla twice) on amirite?

[Krentistthedentist]

Yeah but the difference between the usual headliners and the throne is that Kanye is still relevant.

[MadBird11]

right. that way we can get more jay-z (who's been on the list before) and kanye (who's played the real lolla twice) on amirite?

Well opti all hell would've broken loose if The Throne couldn't have popped up, so that was the reasoning behind that.

[Fargo Gargo]

If I had to pick six headliners out of the ones we have so far, they'd be:

Black Sabbath vs. R. Kelly
Rammstein vs. Massive Attack
Beck vs. The Stone Roses

[fishkingpies]

Yeah but the difference between the usual headliners and the throne is that Kanye is still relevant.

so are animal collective, but you never miss a chance to complain about them.

[teekoh]

I'll try to come up with a list.

[Krentistthedentist]

so are animal collective, but you never miss a chance to complain about them.

Well, they'll probably make the list so god bless 'em

[Krentistthedentist]

I'll try to come up with a list.

My expectations are high.

[teekoh]

Uh oh.

[stupka32]

Death Cab has to be a headliner.

[TrapThis]

Death Cab has to be a headliner.

Second. Way too big to be a sub.

[Krentistthedentist]

Uh oh.

You did fine but I think opti nominated Death Grips and Beefy Toe already nominated Portishead.

[MadBird11]

Nope, he's fine with Death Grips. As to Portishead, you can switch it, but if you want to keep them as a headliner, Beefy Toe will need to submit a new band.

[teekoh]

I changed to Neil Young, assuming that makes any sense. I really don't care about headliners.

[MadBird11]

Works for me.

[teekoh]

And I added my twelfth band.

I think the fact that this is so far from the Fans Lounge is really hurting the popularity this year.

[scottyh]

Can we move the nominations thread to the Fans Lounge? We can move it back once we have enough, but it seems silly to bury it.

[MadBird11]

Sure. I'm also going to extend the nomination period to Saturday and up the number of noms from 12 to 15. More information to follow in the nomination thread.

[teekoh]

I just added my 3 in italics to my post on page 2 of the nom thread. Also, alphabetized.

[MadBird11]

I'm moving all additions to the fans lounge thread. Keep adding them here or there, just let me know where they are.

[Driftwood]

Somebody check mah list:

Underworld
The Knife
Kaiser Chiefs
Thinknig Fellers
Elbow
Franz Ferdinand
Kyuss
Atoms For Peace
Basement Jaxx
Duran Duran
Pet Shop Boys
Swervedriver
Billygoat
Chapterhouse
Possessed

Any of the four in italics I think could play the early(ish) slots.

[MadBird11]

A. Why couldn't you have submitted this a half hour ago and in the other thread? And you didn't even put it in the right one in here!

B. Besnard Lakes were already nominated.

[Driftwood]

Oh is it too late? It's cool.

[MadBird11]

I meant I just did the nightly update a half hour ago. We're going to Saturday night now since participation is low. Fix Besnard Lakes with someone and I might add it tonight if I'm tobbling.

[Driftwood]

I switched in Possessed and Chaptherouse. Are Chapterhouse, Swervedriver and Thinking Fellers small enough (obviously Billygoat are).

[Driftwood]

I think that Luda would be a headliner. Maybe Blondie too.

Lulno neither would be a headliner.

[Driftwood]

If I had to pick six headliners out of the ones we have so far, they'd be:

Black Sabbath vs. R. Kelly
Rammstein vs. Massive Attack
Beck vs. The Stone Roses

Would go to this over regular Lolla any day.

[carligula]

These were the 12 categories I came up with last year. Keep in mind, they aren't perfect but they make the process much simpler. Do we need to modify them based on any changes in the 2011 schedule? For example, I think most people have said that the DJ side stage closer is bunk and we don't need to duplicate that.

(Times are approximate; number of available slots in parentheses)

South Headliner (3)
North Headliner (3)
Main Stage 6:30 (6)
Main 4/Side 7 (12)
Main 2/Side 5 (12)
Side 3/Bloggie 6:30 (9)
Side 1/ Bloggie 5 (9)
Main 12/ Bloggie 3:30 (9)
Side 11:30/Bloggie 2:15 (9)
Bloggie 1/Bloggie 12/ BMI 4:15 (9)
BMI 3/ BMI 1:45 (6)
BMI 12:30/ BMI 11:45 (6)

[MadBird11]

Sounds good except we need to accommodate Grove closers now I think.

[carligula]

Good point. Maybe we can lump them in with the main 4/side 7 group. It will make for a larger group than any other (15 spots), but at the same time, we probably have more nominees of that size than most of the other groups (with the exception of main 6 acts).

I'd much rather just have 3 extra acts than go with DJs on North side. Any else feel strongly about this?

[Krentistthedentist]

As it stands, we won't even have enough shitty DJs for Perry's

[fishkingpies]

agreed. obviously didn't attend last year, but giving the 7 bandshell slot to the shittiest dj's on the lineup seems like the worst idea since lolla moved to chicago.

[Five_Hole]

I've seen some great sets in that slot but have absolutely no issue with them putting a DJ there.

[carligula]

Now that the nomnomnoms are in, the ranking will commence shortly. Expect the next "phase" in January.

[concertgoer]

Who else besides me is submitting a schedule this year?

[MadBird11]

According to the list I had, niko1, 90'srevival and TrapThis we're all interested. I'm going to cap it at 6, so assuming all 3 participate, we'll need two more.

[falcozappa]

I am by no means suggesting that we allow the masses to do this bit of work. Using the committee is by far the best solution. I don't really know how the whole process works but maybe posting the results from each task as they are completed would foster some continued interest and discussion. Or maybe it would lead to pages and pages of arguments and last.fm play counts as you suggest. At least at that point there is nothing that is going to change the results.

It probably would, but if it was done here rather than cluttering up the committee thread then that'd be harmless, right?

[Five_Hole]

Exactly. And since I'm sure we can all agree that the ranking committee's decisions are final it would be largely pointless. But in a very rare case something might be dug up (such as the nana's 2 Live Crew info yesterday) which might actually change the committee's decision and be useful too.

[carligula]

I think the ranking is going very smoothly and I think they're mostly accurate so far. Thanks to everyone who is taking the time to do this-- especially symbionese.

The process is moving a little slowly, so thanks to everyone for being patient while we get all the polls set up. We're moving at a steady enough pace to have this all wrapped up before March Madness.

[Krentistthedentist]

Thanks for looking out for my best interests, gold2sell!

[arbee]

Thanks for looking out for my best interests, gold2sell!

best spam post ever

[carligula]

Okay folks, we're going to need some volunteers for the next few phases:

1) Poll starters (need up to 12 people): Will take a list of bands and assemble a playlist from the recommended songs given in the nomination thread. Will start a PUBLIC poll at the designated time and include a link to the playlist.

2) Schedule Submitters (need up to 2 more): Will create unique schedules using the winners of the polls.

3) Schedule organizer: Will provide an easy-to-fill-out schedule template that can later be posted as an image on the board.

4) Perry's stage "curators" (up to 6 people): Free-for-all choosing a realistic lineup/schedule for Perry's stage.

[carligula]

Poll Starters
1)
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)


Schedule organizer
1)

Schedule Submitters
1) concertgoer
2) nikolajz1
3) TrapThis
4) 90sRevival
5)
6)

Perry's Stage Curators
1)
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)

[carligula]

For now, I think it's only fair that everyone only pick one job. If slots don't fill up, people can feel free to double dip.

I've already participated in the organizing committee, but I'd be happy to submit a schedule and start some polls if need be.

I'd really like to find a responsible person with enough tech savvy to find an easy way for folks to make and share schedules anonymously.

[MadBird11]

Unfortunately, I need to remove myself from running the project. I am basically fucked academically at the moment, and have no time to run this. I don't think you all need me at this point, so I'll try to vote when I can.

[TrapThis]

If you end up needing Poll Starters, I can do that in addition to submitting a schedule.

[nikkirkpatrick]

i can start some polls. pm me.

[MadBird11]

For now, I think it's only fair that everyone only pick one job. If slots don't fill up, people can feel free to double dip.

I've already participated in the organizing committee, but I'd be happy to submit a schedule and start some polls if need be.

I'd really like to find a responsible person with enough tech savvy to find an easy way for folks to make and share schedules anonymously.

Pulp did this last year but I haven't a clue if he'd be willing to do it again.

[acousticgab]

This looks like fun. I would be willing to help out with 1 and 2, if not enough experienced volunteers sign up.

[symbionese]

1) Poll starters (need up to 12 people): Will take a list of bands and assemble a playlist from the recommended songs given in the nomination thread. Will start a PUBLIC poll at the designated time and include a link to the playlist.

is there a particular order you want to go in? top to bottom? bottom to top? or possibly start with 12 main and branch outwards?

[fishkingpies]

i'll be a poll starter.

[carligula]

I think we should do two polls at a time (one from the top half of the lineup and one from the bottom half) in this order:

Main Stage 6:30 (6)
Bloggie 1/Bloggie 12/ BMI 4:15 (9)

Main 2/Side 5 (12)
Side 1/ Bloggie 5 (9)

North Headliner (3)
BMI 3/ BMI 1:45 (6)

Side 3/Bloggie 6:30 (9)
Main 12/ Bloggie 3:30 (9)

Main 4/Side 7 (12)
Side 11:30/Bloggie 2:15 (9)

South Headliner (3)
BMI 12:30/ BMI 11:45 (6)

[carligula]

How about we have TrapThis and nik start the first two polls for early in the week and acousticgab and fishkingpies start the next two on Wednesday? Sym can PM the lists to each of them and they can start putting together a playlist. Maybe on Grooveshark? Is that still a thing?

[TrapThis]

How about we have TrapThis and nik start the first two polls for early in the week and acousticgab and fishkingpies start the next two on Wednesday? Sym can PM the lists to each of them and they can start putting together a playlist. Maybe on Grooveshark? Is that still a thing?

I'm cool with that. Yeah, Grooveshark should work for this.

Symb, if I could get my list sometime today, that would be awesome. I could possibly put it together tomorrow afternoon, but I have more time to do it tonight.

[Five_Hole]

I'll volunteer my services to start a poll too.

[symbionese]

6:30 main (trap) sent.

[symbionese]

blog 1 / 12 / bmi 4:15 (nik) sent.

[symbionese]

also -- please note that some of the band names are abbreviated. when compiling the polls, if you could write them out in full -- it would be greatly appreciated. thank you.

[TrapThis]

also -- please note that some of the band names are abbreviated. when compiling the polls, if you could write them out in full -- it would be greatly appreciated. thank you.

Will do. Is there a specific time you want the poll posted, or just ASAP? I know I can get it done before the day is out.

[ClearChannelMustDie]

Add me to the list to do a poll.

[carligula]

Five hole and CCMD can have the 5th and 6th polls. They should probably start a week from tomorrow (Monday).

Let's have each poll run for one week (Mon to Mon and Wed to Wed). That will give us 4 polls at any given time and will ensure we're done by mid-Feb (with time to vote on schedules before March Madness)

Once again, make sure to check the PUBLIC option so we can make sure there's no shadiness.

[carligula]

Will do. Is there a specific time you want the poll posted, or just ASAP? I know I can get it done before the day is out.

I don't see why we can't get started ASAP. Give it 7 days, make sure the playlist is up and running, and check the PUBLIC option. Also, make sure to allow MULTIPLE votes for everyone, but specify that they may only vote for half the available spots (rounded up) (12 spots means 6 votes, 9 spots means 5 votes, 6 spots means 3 votes and 3 spots means 2 votes).

[carligula]

Jan 23
Main Stage 6:30 (6 spots, 3 votes)
Bloggie 1/Bloggie 12/ BMI 4:15 (9 spots, 5 votes)

Jan 25
Main 2/Side 5 (12 spots. 6 votes)
Side 1/ Bloggie 5 (9 spots, 5 votes)

Jan 30
North Headliner (3 spots, 2 votes)
BMI 3/ BMI 1:45 (6 spots, 3 votes)

Feb 1
Side 3/Bloggie 6:30 (9 spots, 5 votes)
Main 12/ Bloggie 3:30 (9 spots, 5 votes)

Feb 6
Main 4/Side 7 (12 spots, 6 votes)
Side 11:30/Bloggie 2:15 (9 spots, 5 votes)

Feb 8
South Headliner (3 spots, 2 votes)
BMI 12:30/ BMI 11:45 (6 spots, 3 votes)

[nikkirkpatrick]

edit: if no song is suggested, most popular song will be used. is that cool?

[carligula]

There isn't. I guess that would have been a good thing for someone to compile while we were ranking the acts. Also, I think a few people failed to offer song suggestions. I guess in that case, just go with the most played songs on setlist.fm or grooveshark, etc.

[MadBird11]

edit: if no song is suggested, most popular song will be used. is that cool?

Yes.

[fishkingpies]

Five hole and CCMD can have the 5th and 6th polls. They should probably start a week from tomorrow (Monday).

Let's have each poll run for one week (Mon to Mon and Wed to Wed). That will give us 4 polls at any given time and will ensure we're done by mid-Feb (with time to vote on schedules before March Madness)

Once again, make sure to check the PUBLIC option so we can make sure there's no shadiness.

wow. this all came together.

[TrapThis]

Playlist created. I'll post the poll early tomorrow afternoon so it will run Monday to Monday.

[TrapThis]

Just thought of something, should I post the poll in the Fan's Lounge? I feel like it would get more attention over there.

[Krentistthedentist]

Historically, it has been done in the board projects section.

[TrapThis]

Historically, it has been done in the board projects section.

Okay, just wondering. Figured it was better to ask a potentially stupid question than just assuming and putting it in the wrong place.

[nikkirkpatrick]

shit. i thought i could leave a poll closed until the morning. carl?

[symbionese]

who are my three and four?

[Five_Hole]

acousticgab and fishkingpies start the next two on Wednesday


Five hole and CCMD can have the 5th and 6th polls. They should probably start a week from tomorrow (Monday)

.

[symbionese]

thank you.

[carligula]

wow. this all came together.

You're goddamn right it did. Wanna be a Perry's curator?

[fishkingpies]

lol if you can find me a good team, i can step up, preferrably thissy and some other people that like the bass drops and untz untz but don't hate on the idm.

and a big premature thanks to symb, carl and everyone else in the ranking committee. having (marginally) assisted with this task last year, i know it was a lot of effort.

[Krentistthedentist]

acoustigab, do you know how to set up a poll?

[acousticgab]

acoustigab, do you know how to set up a poll?

I've never set up a poll, but I'm assuming it's not that hard to do.

[Thisismyname]

preferrably thissy



http://www.coachella.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4385&d=1326865354&thumb=1

[Krentistthedentist]

I've never set up a poll, but I'm assuming it's not that hard to do.

It isn't.
Just remember that you can only add it after you post the thread itself.

[carligula]

Which other board vets like that untz untz untz crap and want to join thissy and optifish in deciding who plays Perry's stage for our fantasy fest?

[symbionese]

main 2 / side 5 (acoustigab) sent.

[symbionese]

side 1 / blog 5 (opti) sent.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

thanks everyone that helped put all this together... sounds like a ton of work. i always enjoy the voting...

[carligula]

I'm really happy with all the participation we're getting. There are more than 50 voters on some polls so far.

[nikkirkpatrick]

new polls tomorrow night or monday morn?

[carligula]

I don't see any reason why new polls can't go up as soon as the first two polls from last week are finished. As long as we don't have more than 4 at any given time and as long as folks get a full week to vote.

[carligula]

It's likely we'll have to have run-off polls. It's probably best that the folks who started the original polls start a new run-off poll as soon as possible. Please include a link to the original poll and only include the options for acts who are tied for the remaining spots.

For example, it there are 12 spots and only 10 acts have 10 votes or more, they're in. If 5 acts have 9 votes, then all of those acts will compete in a new poll for the remaining 2 spots. I think we can probably get away with only 2 or 3 days for run-offs. Any thoughts on that?

[fishkingpies]

yeah 2-3 days max for run offs.

are we waiting for the run-offs to finish before starting the next round of polls as well?

[nikkirkpatrick]

Bloggie 1/ 12 BMI 4:15 runoff between Omar Souleyman and Ducktails up now.

[symbionese]

may want to wait 'til the actual poll ends...

[carligula]

yeah 2-3 days max for run offs.

are we waiting for the run-offs to finish before starting the next round of polls as well?

I think we should stay on schedule with the other polls. I think 4 polls and 1-4 run-offs at one time is manageable, right?

[symbionese]

north headliners (five hole) sent.

[symbionese]

bmi 3 / 1:45 (ccmd) sent.

[acousticgab]

I'm willing to set up another poll.

[carligula]

How many volunteers do we have so far? Anyone else want in on this before we repeat poll-starters?

[carligula]

Bloggie 1/ 12 BMI 4:15 runoff between Omar Souleyman and Ducktails up now.

I deleted that one because the poll was still open. Hopefully we'll have Absu vs. Graveyard soon.

[TrapThis]

I'm willing to set up another poll.

Ditto.

[ClearChannelMustDie]

bmi 3 / 1:45 (ccmd) sent.

Will get this up and running tomorrow morning.

[fishkingpies]

I'm willing to set up another poll.
.

[Krentistthedentist]

Opti.
You can set up the run off between Absu and Graveyard if you want to get that one going.

[fishkingpies]

it's up. i better not get yelled at for stepping on nikki's toes.

[carligula]

Thanks for taking the lead on that.

[symbionese]

do we have wednesday people yet?

[carligula]

Volunteers:


I'm willing to set up another poll.

Ditto.

.

They've all done a great job so far, so I'm cool with them all doing another. We'll need more volunteers to finish this one out, whether they've already started a poll or not.

[carligula]

We have 2 run-offs scheduled to end late tonight. Maybe we should start the next two tomorrow morning. We'll still be good to go for two fresh polls on Monday.

[symbionese]

that works. will pm the lists later today.

thank you.

[carligula]

Bring on those new threads whenever you guys want. Shockingly we didn't need run-offs for the last two polls.

[Five_Hole]

I'll volunteer my services for another poll if you're still looking for people.

[TrapThis]

Bring on those new threads whenever you guys want. Shockingly we didn't need run-offs for the last two polls.

Cool, I should have Main 12/Bloggie 3:30 posted by tomorrow night.

[acousticgab]

Cool, I should have Main 12/Bloggie 3:30 posted by tomorrow night.

I'll post mine by then as well.

[carligula]

I'll volunteer my services for another poll if you're still looking for people.

Thanks, man. Assuming Fishkingpies is still game for another poll, we have two volunteers for today. Hopefully symbionese will be around to PM the lists sometime today.

[symbionese]

both have been sent.

[carligula]

Much obliged. You guys can start those polls whenever you want.

[symbionese]

and who are my last two?

[symbionese]

still need a last two for tomorrow.

[carligula]

still need a last two for tomorrow.

The late polls from last week go until Thursday night. Is it cool if we wait for them to end before we start the last two?

[carligula]

3) Schedule organizer: Will provide an easy-to-fill-out schedule template that can later be posted as an image on the board.

Any takers for this? I would do it, but I don't think I'm nearly tech savvy enough to do it well. We should really be working on this now.

[symbionese]

The late polls from last week go until Thursday night. Is it cool if we wait for them to end before we start the last two?

works for me.

[nizzle]

are we doing schedule submissions/voting on a winner again?

[acousticgab]

I'll help again

[nikolajz1]

From the looks of it it is going to be all metal and hip hop this year ugh. Why is the board becoming like ktd.

[WretchedSkye2113]

metal

bitch, plz.

[fishkingpies]

From the looks of it it is going to be all metal and hip hop this year ugh. Why is the board becoming like ktd.

lol seriously? hip hop has been doing horribly in the polls.

[carligula]

From the looks of it it is going to be all metal and hip hop this year ugh. Why is the board becoming like ktd.

Do me a favor and tell me where all the hiphop and metal bands are on this list:


North Headliners
Beck
Iron Maiden
Raconteurs

Main Stage 6:30
Blur
Elvis Costello
Faith No More
Franz Ferdinand
Portishead
Slayer

Main 2/Side 5
Bad Religion
Battles
BRMC
Broken Bells
Buzzcocks f/ Howard Devoto
The Darkness
Editors
Girls
How to Destroy Angels
M83
Motorhead
The Weeknd

Side 1/Bloggie 5
Band of Skulls
Camera Obscura
Holy Fuck
Lana Del Rey
Little Dragon
No Age
Washed out
White Rabbits
Wild Beasts

Bloggie 1/12/BMI 4:15
Black Tusk
Braids
Clams Casino
Dead Confederate
Graveyard
Omar Souleyman
Parlor Mob
Purity Ring
Youth Lagoon

BMI 3/1:45
Colin Stetson
Death Grips
Friends
Grimes
Mind Spiders
Unknown Mortal Orchestra

[scottyh]

It's nikolajz. He just bitches for the sake of bitching.

[MadBird11]

lol @ Portishead playing a daytime slot.

[Krentistthedentist]

From the looks of it it is going to be all metal and hip hop this year ugh. Why is the board becoming like ktd.

I am more influential than symbionese. Suck it, y'all

but seriously me and my metal bands have not been going THAT well.

For instance, this pussy board shut out two fantastic metal bands in the course of the same poll (Watain, Goatwhore)

Also, we do need more hip hop. That's where the throne comes in, but Nas and Mobb Deep both failed to garner high profile spots on the lineup. Even Kenrick lost out and A$AP and Flocka will, too.

[symbionese]

lol @ Portishead playing a daytime slot.

madbird. have you ever seen portishead in the daylight?

[carligula]

Your rooftop pool parties are a completely different scenario than Lollapalooza, symbionese.

[carligula]

I'll help again

If acousticgab is the only volunteer to post a poll tonight, I will gladly do the other one.

[carligula]

Also, TrapThis might need a hand if his poll requires a run-off tonight.

[symbionese]

If acousticgab is the only volunteer to post a poll tonight, I will gladly do the other one.

these are my two.

[symbionese]

sent. and sent.

[nanatod]

Also, we do need more hip hop. That's where the throne comes in, but Nas and Mobb Deep both failed to garner high profile spots on the lineup. Even Kenrick lost out and A$AP and Flocka will, too.

don't blame me. I nominated ice-t and I nominated 2 live crew.

[nizzle]

Holy crap, Weeknd made it.

[fishkingpies]

thissy and i plan on putting a few hip hop acts in perry's to help make up for the board's racism.

[MadBird11]

madbird. have you ever seen portishead in the daylight?

It just seems like a strange place to picture them.

[symbionese]

It just seems like a strange place to picture them.

so... you haven't?

[Krentistthedentist]

thissy and i plan on putting a few hip hop acts in perry's to help make up for the board's racism.

I nominated like 5 blacks fyi

[symbionese]

tvotr only counts as three.

[nanatod]

don't blame me. I nominated ice-t and I nominated 2 live crew.

I forgot that I also nominated Colt Ford.

[Thisismyname]

thissy and i plan on putting a few hip hop acts in perry's to help make up for the board's racism.

Oh hey I never sent you my thing. Derpdederp.

[Krentistthedentist]

tvotr only counts as three.

No one even nominated them :\

[acousticgab]

I'll post the new poll later tonight after my other poll has closed.

[carligula]

I'll try to do the same. Guess I should get a grooveshark account...

[carligula]

3) Schedule organizer: Will provide an easy-to-fill-out schedule template that can later be posted as an image on the board.


We reallllly need to get this worked out before the polls are finished next week.

I hope the schedule submitters have started thinking about their mock schedules.

[TrapThis]

I hope the schedule submitters have started thinking about their mock schedules.

A little bit. What will be the timeline for submitting those?

[nizzle]

Are signups closed?

[Five_Hole]

3) Schedule organizer: Will provide an easy-to-fill-out schedule template that can later be posted as an image on the board.


We reallllly need to get this worked out before the polls are finished next week.

Are you just looking for an excel spreadsheet? I can do that.

[carligula]

It needs to be something that can be converted to an image that can easily be displayed in the first post of a poll thread. All the downloading and stuff last year seemed unnecessary.

[Five_Hole]

Hmm. Well excel is probably the easiest format for creating a template. From there individual schedule creators can either post screenshots or pass them back to me or another volunteer and we can (through a few steps) convert them into JPGs. I'll put something together and get it to you to proof.

[Five_Hole]

One point of clarification regarding scheduling: The way the polls were set up we have:

main 4 -> side 5 -> main 6:30 -> side 7

That 6:30 should be 6, correct?

[carligula]

The real schedule isn't consistent from day to day and north to south. There's some flexibility there. Headliners had 90 -120 minutes last year and pre-headliners had 60-75 minutes. Personally, I think preheadliners should be 6-7:15, side stage headliners 7:15-8:15, and headliners 8:15-10. That's how A Perfect Circle/Crystal Castles/Muse was.

[Five_Hole]

Since I'm sure there will be more debate, I'll post this here:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7187/6857983291_89648e4670_z.jpg

This is obviously only one day. We can choose to use this same template for all three days or we can vary them from day to day, or we could allow individual schedulers to vary them 15-30 minutes here and there.

[carligula]

I know I'm the one who defined the categories, but can we have side stage acts from 11:30-12:15 and main stage acts from 12:15-1? Looking at last years' schedule nothing strarted before noon, but I'm fine with going with the older times.

Thanks for doing this, btw!

[concertgoer]

We reallllly need to get this worked out before the polls are finished next week.

I hope the schedule submitters have started thinking about their mock schedules.

I have been
#festivalnerd