The Beer Thread

[arbee]

http://www.united-nations-of-beer.com/images/rickards-white-21353127.jpg

[falcozappa]

Saison Du Buff with takeaway Thai noodles whilst watching The Kings Speech was nice.
Now for the first episode of the new season of Doctor Who (my inner nerd is so excited) with a bottle of Choklat. Yum!

[Driftwood]

Having some tasty Zinfandel.

[alady]

Had a few of my dad's homebrews today - a black spruce lager (brewed with green spruce tips from a tree in our yard), a fresh hop ale, and a vanilla cream ale. I liked the fresh hop ale best.

Also had a wee dram of 1985 Glenrothes single malt.

[concertgoer]

Having some tasty Zinfandel.

Really?
Save me some for Pitchfork cause I have yet to have any good Zinfandel

[Driftwood]

Really? What don't you like about it?

[concertgoer]

Really? What don't you like about it?

Granted I haven't tried one in like six years,but I always find them to be to sweet
What vintage are you drinking tonight?

[Driftwood]

Granted I haven't tried one in like six years,but I always find them to be to sweet
What vintage are you drinking tonight?

Sweet? Are you thinking White Zinfandel. Regular Zinfandel is known for its black pepper and spicy notes.

[Driftwood]

http://www.chwine.com/wine/lot/221/

This is the wine. Got it from Wine Discount Center.

[concertgoer]

Sweet? Are you thinking White Zinfandel. Regular Zinfandel is known for its black pepper and spicy notes.
Sorry I am drunk
Anyway I can never find any good regular Zinfandel so give me some suggestions

[alady]

Bringing back some New Glarus Honey Bock and Imperial IPA, and some Tyranena Dirty Old Man rye aged something or another.

[WalterWhite]

So I had a few more Rovers today. I am in lust with Black Star Co-op

[WalterWhite]

Brew day tomorrow. Gonna try a Strawberry Blonde this time around.

[getrowdy]

Aldi has Goose Island Honker's Ale and 312 twelve packs for $11.99!

[WalterWhite]

Brew day was fun. Started out thinking we'd brew in a bag but couldn't find the mesh bag. Went to home depot and bought a flexible toilet hose with stainless mesh. Ran into another homebrewer in the plumbing section :) Got back and sawed off the connector ends and pulled the hose out, fitted it to valve on the inside of a cooler with some hose clamps and sparged our mash this way. It was pretty badass. Will add the strawberries in about a week.

[falcozappa]

Bridgeport's Hop Czar has been by budget IPA of choice recently, so when I saw their Café Negro porter in the offie today, I thought I'd give it a try. Not amazing, but it is great for the price, once more.


Bringing back some New Glarus Honey Bock and Imperial IPA, and some Tyranena Dirty Old Man rye aged something or another.
Oooh! First Sunday this week?


Brew day was fun. Started out thinking we'd brew in a bag but couldn't find the mesh bag. Went to home depot and bought a flexible toilet hose with stainless mesh. Ran into another homebrewer in the plumbing section :) Got back and sawed off the connector ends and pulled the hose out, fitted it to valve on the inside of a cooler with some hose clamps and sparged our mash this way. It was pretty badass. Will add the strawberries in about a week.
Love hearing the brewday stories. Keep us posted.

[alady]

Oooh! First Sunday this week?


I may never drink again :(

[Driftwood]

Thursday Fountainhead One Year Anniversary Party + Reigning Sound
Friday Flossmoor pre-DLD party and sharing
Saturday Potentially DLD and Lolla-board line-up party (how is that coming along?)
Sunday First Sunday

I also pre-gamed before both Arcade Fire shows on Sunday and Monday and Foals yesterday. Oof. I think I drank on Friday and Saturday too. :/

[hansford]

Drifty! Foals!

[Driftwood]

Yeah they were great but Yannis was in a mood. Kept climbing shit everywhere and fighting with security. Really thought he was going to fall at some point. :/

[symbionese]

Yeah they were great but Yannis was in a mood. Kept climbing shit everywhere and fighting with security. Really thought he was going to fall at some point. :/

what are you -- some kind of organ grinder?

[hansford]

Yeah they were great but Yannis was in a mood. Kept climbing shit everywhere and fighting with security. Really thought he was going to fall at some point. :/

he always climbs on shit.
Thought he was going to fall off the balcony at the granada the other night.

[Driftwood]

It didn't happen at Lincoln Hall but I guess there wasn't much to climb there.

[WalterWhite]

So Magic Hat's Wacko might be the worst beer I've ever had. :(

[claypoolfan]

So Magic Hat's Wacko might be the worst beer I've ever had. :(

I thought it was alright but definitely my least favorite of their offerings.

[WalterWhite]

It just seemed wayyyyyyy too carbonated and there wasn't really any flavor at all. I guess that makes it a good summer beer? either way it makes me sad because i was crushing hard on their brewery until this offering.

[alady]

Did you try their Vinyl when it was out this spring? I like that stuff.

[WalterWhite]

yeah, it was boss.

[alady]

Still never drinking again.

[WalterWhite]

you would drink tonight and like it, if i were in town.

[scottyh]

I haven't said that in a long time. I'm due.

[kells bells]

Uggh, I've had two lipgloss beers in the past few weeks for whatever reason.

[alady]

you would drink tonight and like it, if i were in town.

I would be in excruciating pain, but you're right. I would.

[WalterWhite]

I would be in excruciating pain, but you're right. I would.

That's what true friendship is all about.

[kells bells]

I would drink lipgloss with you, walter. As long as you weren't (cab)driving me home later.

[alady]

http://www.employmentandlaborinsider.com/Mime%20thumbs%20up.jpg

[WalterWhite]

Sláinte!

[falcozappa]

Thursday Fountainhead One Year Anniversary Party + Reigning Sound
Friday Flossmoor pre-DLD party and sharing
Saturday Potentially DLD and Lolla-board line-up party (how is that coming along?)
Sunday First Sunday

I also pre-gamed before both Arcade Fire shows on Sunday and Monday and Foals yesterday. Oof. I think I drank on Friday and Saturday too. :/

I really can't do the Flossmoor pre-DLD party, unfortunately. But what's this Fountainhead Anniversary thing?

[teekoh]

Man, the stuff Flossmoor is going to have on Friday sounds great. So excited.

Are they just going to charge by the pint do you think?

[falcozappa]

Yeah, rub it in :(

[teekoh]

Aw, sorry boss.

This will be my first time over there even though I live so close. I'm looking forward to it.

[falcozappa]

I'll definitely make the effort to get there one day.

[Driftwood]

Man, the stuff Flossmoor is going to have on Friday sounds great. So excited.

Are they just going to charge by the pint do you think?

Yeah it isn't going to be by the pint for these beers but it will be pay as you go I imagine.

Trying to think what to bring for it if there are tasting tables as well. Hmmm.

[Driftwood]

I really can't do the Flossmoor pre-DLD party, unfortunately. But what's this Fountainhead Anniversary thing?

4-7 free passed appetizers. $1 off everything. 2 casks (including Zombie Dust!!!) Bunch of rarish taps.

Foutainhead turns 1 tomorrow.

[kells bells]

4-7 free passed appetizers. $1 off everything. 2 casks (including Zombie Dust!!!) Bunch of rarish taps.

Foutainhead turns 1 tomorrow.

This sounds diviiiine.

Is Zombie Dust rare? I tried it at Village Tap a few weeks ago. I don't recall having a strong reaction to it.

[Driftwood]

It isn't rare (well it is pretty rare on cask). It is just uberly hyped right now. I dunno I love it. Seems like Three Floyds managed to capture the Hopslam wallop in a 6% beer which I think is pretty incredible. Rumours swirling everywhere that it wil be in six-packs.

[Driftwood]

Village Tap is the corner bar we don't frequent enough. :(

[Driftwood]

Taplist is looking GOOD. Who is coming?

Ska Merlo Stout (!!!), Allagash Fluxus 2010, Zombie Dust on cask, Mikkeller / Stateside Saison-IPA hybird, Cantillon Lou Pepe Kriek (!!!)

[alady]

Still never drinking again.

[Driftwood]

So no Flossmoor for you tomorrow? Rosie fucking Pom from FOBAB is on.

[alady]

Ughhhhh.

[scottyh]

Drank a lot last night.

Abita Purple Haze
Deschutes Inversion IPA
Fort Collins Incredible Hop
Stone Sublimely Self Righteous
Great Divide 17th Anniversary Wood Aged Double IPA
Great Divide Hoss

So. much. beer.

[kells bells]

Taplist is looking GOOD. Who is coming?

Ska Merlo Stout (!!!), Allagash Fluxus 2010, Zombie Dust on cask, Mikkeller / Stateside Saison-IPA hybird, Cantillon Lou Pepe Kriek (!!!)

Whuuuut. And what is Fluxus?

I wanna go. :(

[Driftwood]

Merlo Stout is inspired by Merlot I guess? Reviews are rully good. http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/923/52508

Fluxus is something they change up every year. 2010 is an Imperial Stout with cacao nibs.

[kells bells]

I guessed the merlot part. :P I just mean it sounds awesoooome.

The first beer I had at Fountainhead was aged in red wine barrels. I forget what it was called, but it was so good.

P.S. Isn't Fountainhead more than a year old? I was thinking it opened in February or March last year.

P.P.S. Stupid that their rooftop isn't going to open this year when they had been saying it'd be open in August or September last year.

[Driftwood]

Was it Dogfish Head Red & White?

[kells bells]

Yessss, that's the one.

[alady]

P.P.S. Stupid that their rooftop isn't going to open this year when they had been saying it'd be open in August or September last year.

Really? That's lame. What's the holdup?

[kells bells]

Really? That's lame. What's the holdup?

No idea. We'd had it in mind for the bachelor(ette) parties, and that's what they said when we called. Not sure why. Well, he said it definitely wouldn't be open in May or June, which is then the party is, and he said to not be surprised if it doesn't open this year at all.

[Audiobully]

Drank a lot last night.

Abita Purple Haze
Deschutes Inversion IPA
Fort Collins Incredible Hop
Stone Sublimely Self Righteous
Great Divide 17th Anniversary Wood Aged Double IPA
Great Divide Hoss

So. much. beer.

WOW. I'm kinda jealous right now.

[markdurr]

currently:
http://www.beermelodies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/BOULEVARD-UNFILTERED-WHEAT.jpg

tonight i went to a mini beer market place, where the owner trades beer just for the sake of beer.
i traded him 2 Hitachino White Ales and 2 Hitachino Red Rice Ale for 2 Bells, 2 Darkhorse, and 2 Mojo's that he threw in for me to have.
pretty good trade for me because i can't get the Bells and Darkhorse down here.
best part is i still have Hitachino left!

[claypoolfan]

Headed to Local Option in about an hour... gonna try a beer from Avery and a couple of the new Three Floyds they have on tap probably...

[kells bells]

I had my first Avery there. Still dreaming about the Cajun coleslaw. I can meet u there?

[carligula]

I have a question for the beer experts out there:

If I buy chilled beer from the grocery store, bring it home, and store it at room temp for a few weeks before putting it in the fridge, will it "skunk"?

[scottyh]

Not usually. Not sure why you'd do that, though.

[kells bells]

That's the impression I've always gotten.

[scottyh]

I've had to do it before because I didn't have enough room in my fridge. It was fine.

[carligula]

Not usually. Not sure why you'd do that, though.

I want to buy 18-24 cans of cheap light beer for the pool, but I don't want to put all of them in my fridge at once. They only sell chilled beer at my grocery store and don't stock it in the warehouse.

[scottyh]

I think cheap beer is much more likely to go skunk. It really doesn't take much.

[Thisismyname]

Skunking is caused by light, not temperature.

Having your beer warm up to room temperature will make it taste shittier and shittier the longer you keep unrefrigerated though (even though that's technically not skunking), especially if it was already cold when you bought it.

[kells bells]

What do you know?

[alady]

I wouldn't think it would make any difference either way. We need WalterWhite in here.

[Thisismyname]

What do you know?

I went to college.

But really, I just finished a beer class this semester. I am now all knowing.

[Driftwood]

Leave it unrefrigerated if you so desire. It doesn't make any difference.

[Driftwood]

Skunking is caused by light, not temperature.

Having your beer warm up to room temperature will make it taste shittier and shittier the longer you keep unrefrigerated though (even though that's technically not skunking), especially if it was already cold when you bought it.

Time to get re-educated. :/

[Thisismyname]

It's really not a big deal if it has never been refrigerated, but if it has been, it must stay refrigerated. This is easily one of the points my professor was most adamant about.

Also I should point out that I live in Florida. The point it needs to stay under is 70 degrees I believe, or something close to that. 98% of the time in Florida, room temperature is above that.

So yeah, if you're house is cooler than that up there, then it really shouldn't matter.

*Actually, I totally made up the 70 degree figure. Out of my own curiosity, I went to look at my notes and it said that ideally Lagers should be kept 40-45 degrees, Ales 50-55, and Stouts 55-60. Any type of keg should be between 38-40.

This professor also sanitizes all of his beer glasses before drinking out of them, so he's kind of a nutso for detail. I don't think it's THAT big of a deal, but it is preferable.

[Driftwood]

And the reasoning behind it is? You are right about light causing skunking btw - be wary of green bottles (especially on imports).

Beer is certainly susceptible to temperature changes but you aren't going to "ruin" a beer in the short term unless you leave it in a car in a hot day (might kill the yeast) or if it freezes (carbonation issues). Keeping beer at a higher temperature accelerates the "aging" process so beers where the hops play a central role, you should ideally keep refrigerated if you don't want the hops to fade (though they will no matter what you do). It is only important for "shitty" beers because the lack of malt does not make them good candidates for aging and if you lose whatever hops they originally had - what exactly would you be left with?

The idea of if it is refrigerated in the store, keep it that way makes no sense to me. You have a three tier system - you don't see how the beer was stored where it was brewed, how it was stored at the distributor and how it was stored in getting from one place to the next. The beer has probably been at a range of temperatures during the whole process that you cannot possibly be aware of (with of course some care that it doesn't hit either extreme of far too hot or cold).

[Driftwood]

Oh ok you edited your post with more info. Those temperatures are basically the ideal serving temperatures. Usually higher alcohol means higher temperature.

[Thisismyname]

In the short, no it should be fine. That's kind of what I tried to say in my first post (by saying it would get worse as time passed, rather than just saying OHIT'SRUINED), although looking back on it I probably made it sound too important. I'm glad you mentioned the aging, I couldn't remember what exactly the heat did to it. Obviously aging is not wanted (most of the time), so I would say anything the speeds up the aging process is "bad". But of course, it's really not THAT huge of a deal. I mean room temperature is not far off from 60 degrees anyways, where the ideal temperatures begin, so if you aren't storing it for long, you're right it really won't cause a big effect.

Regarding the three tier system, if you buy from an independent retailer who has the beer cold, you would hope it was sent to him cold. I mean, a good amount of beer is shipped in refrigerated trucks. The main problem is most the stores don't have enough cooler space, and then they just put them wherever. If it's a craft beer, chances are it was sent to them cold. Of course, if you're just picking up a 6 pack from 7-eleven, all bets are off, so.

Moral of the story is most of this stuff is suggestive and in the end, really doesn't make that big of difference. So yeah.

*Oh hey you posted again. Yeah, but his thing was you should always keep the beer at the serving temperature. Meh.

**Oh hey I also never really answered your question did I? Why it's worse to warm up already cold beer than it is to keep beer that's already warm. I would assume it matters simply because it's some sort of "shock" type thing. To be honest, I'm not sure on the exact details of that, I just know that was a point my professor was very keen on getting across. Could have been a nut-job, idk, certainly seemed like he knew what he was talking about though.

[teekoh]

Looks like I won't be able to make it to First Sunday tomorrow. :(

Really too bad since I have this growler of awesome Double IPA sitting in the fridge. :(:(

[teekoh]

Soooo I'm the only one at Goose Island. :/

[reedeeda]

Aw. If we were close by we'd come over. I've been cleaning the basement all day and I'm ready for a drink.

[arbee]

http://driftwoodbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/product-photo-white-bark.png

Went to my buddy Tony's retirement party on Friday night and we were drinking White Bark Wheat Ale from Driftwood Brewery in Victoria, BC.

[getrowdy]

http://driftwoodbeer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/product-photo-white-bark.png

Went to my buddy Tony's retirement party on Friday night and we were drinking White Bark Wheat Ale from Driftwood Brewery in Victoria, BC.

I really think you should bring a case of this to Chicago at least for Driftwood.

[Driftwood]

Soooo I'm the only one at Goose Island. :/

So glad we finally decided to come. Turn out of about 7 but people brought good stuff. And when Goose realized they weren't going to kill their keg they decided to hand out free growlers. Boarders (if you include the fiancee) took home 4 of the 7 handed out. :)

[teekoh]

Such a good time. I'm glad Drfty +1 and falco showed up.

[falcozappa]

Such a good time. I'm glad Drfty +1 and falco showed up.
Yeah, it was fun. Loved your growler.

[teekoh]

Thanks! I'm glad everyone liked it as much as they did.

If anyone's ever in central Iowa, they know where to stop. ;)

[alady]

Was totally under the impression this started at 6.

Not so much, huh?

[teekoh]

3

[WretchedSkye2113]

had a Stone Levitation with my Mastodon burger yesterday.

i would've changed it up, but the waitress recognized me and i didn't wanna ruin my reputation of being a regular ;)

[Five_Hole]

Two brothers has apparently bought the Roundhouse.

[nanatod]

racist?

[Five_Hole]

:confused:

[kells bells]

Brothers.

[Five_Hole]

Oh.

[teekoh]

I'm almost done with my last Dogfish Head 90min IPA. :(

[scottyh]

That Colorado Beer Tour offer is available on Denver Groupon again.

[Driftwood]

You had a good time right? The comments section is puzzling ...

[scottyh]

Yes. My wife and her friend had a slight issue the second time, but it wasn't a huge deal. The guy was a little late. Ask for Gil if you can when you actually do schedule the trip.

[dmwade]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e17/dmwade/Gil.gif

[scottyh]

Mountain Sun - Chupacabra

Just introduced tonight. Fantastic.

[claypoolfan]

Back to Local Option tomorrow night to try the stuff they got in from Evil Twin this week. Also probably going to have another Avery Maharaja yummmmmmmm.

[falcozappa]

I didn't realise that Mikkeller even had a twin until this week, let alone an evil one.

[scottyh]

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=154836151249348

Great Divide Barrel Aged Chocolate Yeti Tapping in Chicago next week

[kells bells]

Wawaweewa, Beckett's new beer list is huge-gantic. Boozehound posted it on Facebook, but it's too small to read. :-/

[getrowdy]

Drank the Mikkeller weasel tonight. It's good.

[falcozappa]

Chicago Craft Beer Week (http://www.chibeerweek.com/events/) - what events interest you all?

[Driftwood]

Think I might get the passport - all the best events require one it seems and you get prizes I guess at the end?

[falcozappa]

I was thinking the same thing. At $10, it seems reasonable. That said, I don't think I'll be able to do a whole ton of events,.

[Driftwood]

Party at the end should be fun but no free food now and $40 seems a little higher than before. Also only 3 hours. Will probably still go.

[falcozappa]

Unfortunately that's MrsFZ's birthday, so I'll have to give that one a miss.

[alady]

Oof. Looks like a fun week.

[falcozappa]

The Revolution/Firestone-Walker collaboration (http://www.chibeerweek.com/event/release-of-revolution-brewing-and-firestone-walker-collobration) event sounds very appealing, but at Midnight on a weekday, I think I'll have to pass on that one too. But I can't complain - there's plenty of other events that look fantastic.

[Driftwood]

Goose Island sour event ftw. and Goose Island vintage ones.

[dij22]

Stone Brewery is divine, it's gonna be a good summer now that C-U has them on tap.

[Driftwood]

Wow that Acre event looks incredible.

[falcozappa]

Shame the early entry tickets have gone.

[Driftwood]

Oh shit there were tickets?

[falcozappa]

Oh shit there were tickets?
Sold out as of Saturday (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=118881458191750), but hopefully not everything will be gone after the early session.

[alady]

Oh, boo.

[scottyh]

Great Divide is holding their anniversary party the same weekend as Bonnaroo. Fuck fuck fuck fuck.

$25 for all the GD beer I would be able to drink? Ugh.

[Driftwood]

Would have totally been worth it oh well - at least I won't overindulge now and there should be enough rare stuff that some of it will last.

[claypoolfan]

I didn't realise that Mikkeller even had a twin until this week, let alone an evil one.

For the price, these were not that good. I had the Yang IPA, a Yin/Yang black and tan and the Before, During and After IPA. The black and tan was probably the best.

[falcozappa]

What style was the Black and Tan?

[Driftwood]

Falco you didn't go to Local option to try them?

[falcozappa]

Couldn't go, but I was very interested in the event.

[claypoolfan]

Couldn't go, but I was very interested in the event.

They still have all of them. The debut event was last Monday and I went on Saturday.

When you say what style, do you mean what was in it? It was imperial IPA and imperial stout. Evil Twin Yin and Yang were brewed specifically to be mixed together into one.

I was a little mad when they gave it to me and it was all mixed up though rather than stout on top. But whatever.

[Driftwood]

Yeah I don't think you can always do that (separate them).

[falcozappa]

Hmmmm Maybe I should try to make it there sometime this week.

[claypoolfan]

Yeah I don't think you can always do that (separate them).

Pretty sure it was because it was a smaller pour than I'm used to with a black and tan.

[teekoh]

I know it's not beer, but this is going on next week and sounds so good.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=213930375298884

5 courses plus pairings for $40. Oh, and it's at Fountainhead.

[getrowdy]

I know it's not beer, but this is going on next week and sounds so good.

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=213930375298884

5 courses plus pairings for $40. Oh, and it's at Fountainhead.

Well that sounds wonderful!
Course One:
Famous Grouse
With Citrus & Sharp Cheddar Gougeres

Course Two:
Highland Park 15 / The Macallan Fine Oak 15
Arugula, Prosciutto, Cantaloupe & Bacon-Vanilla Bean Vinaigrette

Course Three:
The Macallan Fine Oak 17
Lake Perch with Pineapple, Red Onion & Sage Chutney with Crispy Leeks

Course Four:
Highland Park 18
Ostrich filet on Wild Mushroom Duxelle, with Honey Roasted Brussel Sprout Leaves

Course Five:
The Macallan 18
Scottish Tablet & Caramel Cheesecake with Toffee Crust

Extra Course:
Highland Park 30 stands alone for the ultimate dessert

Tickets are $40 & dinner begins at 7:00 in our Barrel Room.

[alady]

Was the thing at Half Acre last year the same as the thing that's at Revolution this year? Drifty?

[Driftwood]

I mean they both close the event (beer week) but I'm not sure how it will be run. No free food at this thing and two sessions. I think it will be more beer focused. 13 Revolution Beers is a lot of different beer from them (plus other stuff).

[alady]

Well, boo.

I only want to go if there will be free mashed potatoes.

[Driftwood]

I'll probably still go but free dinner was nice.

[alady]

I need to take some time and look over all the craft beer week options. I'm going to try to do a few for sure.

[scottyh]

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=154836151249348

Great Divide Barrel Aged Chocolate Yeti Tapping in Chicago next week

More people should be excited for this. Fantastic beer.

[Driftwood]

It's in Plainfield.

[alady]

I has some Yeti in my house.

[scottyh]

It's in Plainfield.

Learn to drive and get down there, then.

[teekoh]

I actually RSVPd to go until I saw it was out there. I was really hoping it was in Chicago since the gal and I will be in town tonight.

[kells bells]

Learn to drive and get down there, then.

Plainfield is faaaar.

[claypoolfan]

Plainfield is faaaar.

Truth. A wine forum I'm on is having a thing there but it's waaaaaay too far if you're drinking.

[teekoh]

I live that far south, but it's still another 35-40 minutes west of me.

[falcozappa]

Enjoying a Hoppe (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/3818/36179)

[k2boarder36]

Well, as peculiar as it may sound, I am self-diagnosing myself with an allergy to hops. I get a terrible migraine after any one beer with a lot of hops (the Noble Pils set me off last night). I never thought it might be an allergy, but after surfing around the web, it looks like this is an actual possibility.

What an unfortunate allergy for someone who enjoys a good microbrew.

[Driftwood]

That suxxx.

[alady]

Gluten intolerance maybe? Try a gluten-free beer and see what happens.

[k2boarder36]

Gluten intolerance maybe? Try a gluten-free beer and see what happens.

I don't think it has to do with gluten. I don't have problems with all beer (or any types of wheat based foods); just certain kinds of beer. Which is why I'm attributing it to hops, because not all beers are made with hops, and some are made with a lot more hops than others. I've noticed that the hoppier a beer tastes (Noble Pils, a lot of IPAs, Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, etc.), the more likely I am to get a headache.

[Driftwood]

I wonder how many beers you've had without hops.

[falcozappa]

Like the New Belgium Dandelion Ale (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/192/50231)?

[k2boarder36]

I wonder how many beers you've had without hops.

Well, maybe "without hops" was the wrong wording, but I know a lot of wheat beers have very little hops, and those have been my favorite and have never led to headaches. And I know that American macro brews have very little hops in them as well, which also don't seem to give me terrible headaches as frequently.

[falcozappa]

Well, maybe "without hops" was the wrong wording, but I know a lot of wheat beers have very little hops, and those have been my favorite and have never led to headaches. And I know that American macro brews have very little hops in them as well, which also don't seem to give me terrible headaches as frequently.
But all the commercials say that Miller is triple hopped.

[getrowdy]

What an unfortunate allergy for someone who enjoys a good microbrew.

I used to drink wine before I developed an allergy to it. Terrible migraines, like for days. That's why I switched to beer.

[reedeeda]

Now that would just be the end of me.

Anyone else have seasonal allergies and as soon as you drink a beer your sinuses completely stuff up? I can barely understand Jack this time of year. I don't know how he can stand it.

[alady]

Sometimes, yeah.

[WretchedSkye2113]

getting black dog tonight. hopefully discovering some new delicious beers alongside my beef ribs :)

[dmwade]

getting black dog tonight. hopefully discovering some new delicious beers alongside my beef ribs :)

Love that place - great bbq & beer selection. They're also going to be part of the Chambana Craft Beer Pub Crawl (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=206163246084709) next weekend (5/22).

[getrowdy]

Now that would just be the end of me.

Anyone else have seasonal allergies and as soon as you drink a beer your sinuses completely stuff up? I can barely understand Jack this time of year. I don't know how he can stand it.

I limit myself to a couple of sips of wine. But it tastes so good! After a few migraines I learned. I'm such a mouth breather this time of year. LOL

[hansford]

edit--

changed my mind.

[getrowdy]

Good thing

[falcozappa]

Oak Aged Unearthly tonight.

[Driftwood]

Uh - did you guys see the beer list updated for Acre? Take Thursday off from work.

[Driftwood]

How has nobody commented on this yet (yes I know I'm setting myself up for a joke)?

[alady]

I haven't looked at the tap list.

Post a link for my lazy ass.

[hansford]

i had a (512) Black IPA last night.

twas good.

[Driftwood]

‎1) Cherry Bourbon County Brand Stout
2) Ancho Chile Bourbon County Brand Stout
3) Bourbon County Brand Single Barrel Stout – Heaven Hill 20 Year
4) 2010 Bourbon County Brand Stout
5) Bourbon County Brand Vanilla Stout
...6) Bourbon County Brand Coffee Stout – Honey Badger
7) Big John
8) Lazarus (on Nitro)
9) Old Max
10) Prince Henry
11) Lolita
12) Indira
13) Scully
14) Eva
15) Pepe Nero
16) Marisol
17) Tripel
18) Pink Peppercorn Saison
19) Horatio
20) Blackberry Dominique
21) Citra Wilder
22) Green Line – Amarillo
23) Green Line – Simcoe
24) Green Line – New Zealand Motueka / Green Bullet
25) Samovar

[Driftwood]

Cherry Bourbon, Blackberry Dominique, Pink Peppercorn Saison, Lolita ...

[teekoh]

I don't know what any of those are, but they sound good. Do I need to get tickets? Can I get to Lincoln Hall easy enough from there? Will I be too drunk to enjoy Aesop Rock?

Also, I had the Green Line IPA at Schuba's the other night and was not impressed at all.

[Driftwood]

i had a (512) Black IPA last night.

twas good.

Love 512 (though Live Oak still wins). Love Black IPAs.

Just checked - 7%? Hopefully still on somewhere when I'm in Austin next.

[Driftwood]

I don't know what any of those are, but they sound good. Do I need to get tickets? Can I get to Lincoln Hall easy enough from there? Will I be too drunk to enjoy Aesop Rock?

Also, I had the Green Line IPA at Schuba's the other night and was not impressed at all.

It's their "easy drinking" beer. It isn't an IPA. It is a Pale Ale.

[Driftwood]

I don't know what any of those are, but they sound good. Do I need to get tickets? Can I get to Lincoln Hall easy enough from there? Will I be too drunk to enjoy Aesop Rock?

Also, I had the Green Line IPA at Schuba's the other night and was not impressed at all.

Is that next Wednesday? I think it is pretty close to Falco's place and he lives by a red line (somewhat far north so give yourself enough time - could take the Clark bus too).

Starts at 6:30 - when is your show? No tickets - buy as you go.

[teekoh]

Ohhhhh, I thought it was on Thursday, nvm. I might not be able to get out there on Wednesday, but we'll see.

And that makes sense that it wasn't an IPA. I read the thing wrong.

[alady]

Honey badger lulz.

Green Line is awful.

That tap list looks divine. I'll be there.

[Driftwood]

The single hop versions are supposed to good. I didn't get around to them at the Sheffield's Goose Island takeover and I imagine it will be the same here.

[falcozappa]

That looks like an amazing list. I hope that the early-session ticket holders don't finish of some of BCSs.

[hansford]

Love 512 (though Live Oak still wins). Love Black IPAs.

Just checked - 7%? Hopefully still on somewhere when I'm in Austin next.

yeah, it was a read 7% too.
I had already had an Estrella Damm, 3 Fireman 4s, 3 Miller Lites and that one sent me over the edge.

[Driftwood]

I'm hoping Juliet ends up on tap at some point during Chicago Beer Week.

[getrowdy]

Is that next Wednesday? I think it is pretty close to Falco's place and he lives by a red line (somewhat far north so give yourself enough time - could take the Clark bus too).

Starts at 6:30 - when is your show? No tickets - buy as you go.
I will be attending, also.

[hansford]

I hope they still have 512 black ipa when you get down here again, drifty.

it seems right up your ally:

An entirely new creation from organic 2-row, organic Crystal 60 and Carafa III, a huskless black malt that gives this beer it’s black color with notes of coffee and chicory without any tannic bitterness. The hop additions are many and generous, featuring Apollo, Horizon, and Nugget, clocking the beer in at 70 IBU. Over 11 pounds per batch of Nugget hops are added directly to the fermenter yielding a resiny herbal and spicy aroma. A hybrid style for dark beer fans who love hops.

I am not usually big on black IPAs, sometimes the bitterness overtakes the hops, but after telling the bartender of my trepidation he assured me I would love it.
He was right.

[Driftwood]

You guys get Southern Tier right? Tried Iniquity?

[hansford]

You guys get Southern Tier right? Tried Iniquity?

they don't distribute down here.

[Driftwood]

Oh - next time you are in Chicago then. I think you'd like that. 9% Black Imperial IPA but hops are definitely the star. I think it is available year round.

[falcozappa]

I like a decent black IPA, but I think I may prefer India Brown Ale.

[Driftwood]

Only if they get scotch ale / wee heavy type flavours in there.

[getrowdy]

If anyone wants some New Glarus I'll be in WI tomorrow. PM me.

[Audiobully]

Ok....QUICK QUESTION (I'm leaving for Chicago in 30 minutes)

What's the best bar/tavern that's close to Topolobampo/Frontera Grille?

[getrowdy]

Just drink margaritas at Frontera.

[kells bells]

There was a bunch of Three Floyds tapped at Long Room last night, and everyone was already smashed when we showed up. Rabid Rabbit was yummy.

[alady]

We almost went to the Long Room after dinner but it was cold and I was a pussy.

[teekoh]

Heading to Tribes Ale House in Mokena. I'm on my phone so you'll have to look at the beer list yourselves, but it's pretty great.

[falcozappa]

A bottle of Gemini (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/3818/40057), a packet of pickled onion monster munch (http://www.taquitos.net/snacks.php?snack_code=394), and an episode of Doctor Who. Nice.

[falcozappa]

Heading to Tribes Ale House in Mokena. I'm on my phone so you'll have to look at the beer list yourselves, but it's pretty great.

I'd be interested to hear what you think of the Firestone Walker Nectar IPA, as I haven't tried it and I really like their Double Jack. I'd also go for the Three Floyds Hells Black Intelligencer.

[falcozappa]

Using my Cans Groupon before it expires. Had a Pine Belt Pale Ale, and Red Racer Pale Ale & IPAs so far. I imagine that I wouldn't like this place much in the evenings, but (empty as it is right now) it's been a nice enough afternoon.

[teekoh]

I'd be interested to hear what you think of the Firestone Walker Nectar IPA, as I haven't tried it and I really like their Double Jack. I'd also go for the Three Floyds Hells Black Intelligencer.

It was good. My gf got it at the same time I had the Port Wipeout, which we both thought was better.

They were out of the Intelligentser and the Panzer Wolf, but the best we tried were the Double Jack (great), Bells 10,000 (strange, but enjoyable) and the collaboration scotch ale (great), among lots of other things.

[claypoolfan]

Going to Piece tonight for some pizza and beers... I haven't been there in a long while, anyone been there recently? Anything I have to try from them?

[Driftwood]

I'd say their Double IPAs are their strength.

[Driftwood]

Btw the event time has been moved up to 6. Not sure how quickly things will run out but I will be there at 6 sharp (Acre event tomorrow that is).

Ready to drink a lot right about now. :(

[scottyh]

My friend got me a ticket to a beer event at Falling Rock Tap House on Sunday. I'll even be an industry liaison, whatever that means.

[markdurr]

woo! its craft beer week!

[alady]

I don't think I'm gonna make it to the event tomorrow.

[Driftwood]

Booo.

[claypoolfan]

Hop Czar is pretty good. Just polished off a six pack of that last night. It's not the first thing I would grab if presented with a few IPAs though.

[Driftwood]

Highlights for me tonight - 20 year barrel BCS, Cherry BCS, new version of Coffee BCS, Prince Henry, Lolita, Scully, Ava, Blackberry Dominique, Pink Peppercorn Saison ... oof.

[nanatod]

I don't think I'm gonna make it to the event tomorrow.

but I've convinced the better half to agree to go to it just because you, getrowdy, and driftwood will be there, even though she doesn't like beer, and prefers wine, and even though she has to work a little bit late today at her office. :(

[Driftwood]

Fishook have you met Falco? That's reason enough for you to go.

[alady]

Falco is way more of a draw than me.

[nanatod]

Fishook have you met Falco? That's reason enough for you to go.

weren't you at getrowdy's residence when both falco and I were there during the winter?!?

[Driftwood]

Oh derp.

[Driftwood]

Falco is way more of a draw than me.

Co-headliners.

[alady]

Hee.

[kells bells]

Oh burn.

.

[teekoh]

Are any boarders planning on doing any tomorrow? I can't go tonight either, but tomorrow I'm free.

[kells bells]

Are any of the events free?

[Driftwood]

Most of them are free (pay as you go).

[getrowdy]

You people are so cute. I want alady to go too.

[getrowdy]

!

[Driftwood]

That was a lot of fun. Glad everyone turned up.

[getrowdy]

The bartenders left a little to be desired. But yeah I had too much fun.

[falcozappa]

It was indeed a great night out, and a perfect way to start Beer Week.

[getrowdy]

Got some New Glarus today. IIPA- double IPA, Uff-Da -a bock and Two Women -classic country lager.

[falcozappa]

Got some New Glarus today. IIPA- double IPA, Uff-Da -a bock and Two Women -classic country lager.
I tried one of those today from one of my friends who took a day trip up to Wisconsin earlier. Good stuff.

[Driftwood]

Got three bottle caps today woo.

[getrowdy]

Got three bottle caps today woo.
What does this mean?

[teekoh]

Had the Founder's Double Trouble last night: Good, and not a typical DIPA.

Currently: Summit Pumpkin Porter. It's pretty lacking in the pumpkin department, but the chocolate in it is nice.

[reedeeda]

Sprecher beer potato chips are the perfect accompaniment to beer. Buy some today!

[scottyh]

http://www.thebruery.com/

Tried samples from this place last weekend. So great.

[stealyourcarbon]

Yesterday:

Bell's Two Hearted
Sam Adams Latitude 48 IPA Deconstructed Edition
Brooklyn Brewery Summer Ale
Grain Belt Premium

[moxyfop]

Sprecher beer potato chips are the perfect accompaniment to beer. Buy some today!


Sold!

(says the girl who can't drink beer :'( )

[claypoolfan]

Going out to my buddy's lake house in Michigan for the long weekend and I'm going to grab a few six packs from Binny's on the way out there. Can I get a few recommendations of your favorite IPAs/Pale Ales that I may not have tried? Or I guess just your favorites, and preferably some that I will probably be able to find.

[reedeeda]

Sold!

(says the girl who can't drink beer :'( )

They go great with rootbeer too! :)
(Jeremy said he & his gal ate a bag and drank a 6 pak of Sprecher rootbeer. Now, he doesn't recommend that - they didn't feel so good afterward.)

[moxyfop]

Sprecher = best rootbeer. No contest.

[getrowdy]

Sprecher beer potato chips are the perfect accompaniment to beer. Buy some today!
Where did you get them? Binny's?

[falcozappa]

Going out to my buddy's lake house in Michigan for the long weekend and I'm going to grab a few six packs from Binny's on the way out there. Can I get a few recommendations of your favorite IPAs/Pale Ales that I may not have tried? Or I guess just your favorites, and preferably some that I will probably be able to find.

Anything from Founders, Bells or New Holland that you haven't come accross in Chicago, something like Founders Backwoods Bastard (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/35036)

[hjkz1982]

Where did you get them? Binny's?

I guess they have them at Costco. Haven't been able to find anywhere else online that says where we can get them.

[claypoolfan]

Anything from Founders, Bells or New Holland that you haven't come accross in Chicago, something like Founders Backwoods Bastard (http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/1199/35036)

Thanks. I also may try to get a hold of this (http://www.brewbound.com/news/headlines/samuel-adams-latitude-48-ipa-deconstructed-variety-pack-available-this-month/) interesting IPA variety pack from Sam Adams to go with whatever craft stuff I grab.

[Thisismyname]

Doing some planning ahead for Bonnaroo, what do people suggest for good beers that are readily available in cans? Emphasis on the readily available, since I'm currently in Roanoke, where the selection is not that great.

[scottyh]

Yuengling, Fat Tire - or PBR!

Yuengling is readily available in TN, and it's probably the best option. Fat Tire, if you can find it, would be great. But more expensive.

[claypoolfan]

I see cans of Fat Tire a lot, that's probably the best beer I've seen in a can.

EDIT: Got ninjaaaaa'd.

[Thisismyname]

Yeah, definitely can get Yuengling.

I'll see if any of the stores around here have fat tire, thanks.

There is one store here that has some good craft beers, and I noticed a couple canned offerings, but holy mother are they expensive.

[scottyh]

Yeah, you're not going to find much that's cheap. Even Fat Tire tends to be overpriced when you find it in cans.

[Thisismyname]

The ones this place was selling was around 14 bucks for a 6 pack... is that what I should expect for Fat Tire? If so, Yuengling and PBR here I come!

[scottyh]

No - you may be able to find it for about 10 or a little less. It's actually cheaper in bottles typically.

[Thisismyname]

alright, I'll do some snooping around. Thanks.

[kells bells]

Mr. Beer Class doesn't know what beers to buy?

[Thisismyname]

WATCHURSELF.

[alady]

See if you can find that Starr Hill Festie beer. 'Cause that's cute. :)

[Driftwood]

The ones this place was selling was around 14 bucks for a 6 pack... is that what I should expect for Fat Tire? If so, Yuengling and PBR here I come!

What was in the cans? if it was for a DIPA or RIS that isn't bad at all. But yeah no way should a pale ale or something comparable be going for that price.