It Starts Now: Volume Four - 2012 Lollapalooza Headliner Speculation

[biggiesmallzformayor]

Didn't realize evolution hadn't weeded folks like you out yet.

ahaha i knew when i started lurking that you'd be the most fun person on here.

[Krentistthedentist]

ahaha i new when i started lurking that you'd be the most fun person on here.

Maybe you should spend more time with a dictionary and less time lurking.

[biggiesmallzformayor]

Maybe you should spend more time with a dictionary and less time lurking.

I'll do both. so what's your prediction krentist? I'll leave when you tell me. forever.

[MadBird11]

ahaha i knew when i started lurking that you'd be the most fun person on here.

Clearly you must be a prepubescent boy too.

[Krentistthedentist]

I'll do both. so what's your prediction krentist? I'll leave when you tell me. forever.


Kanye West & Jay-Z * Kanye West * Child Rebel Soldier
The Black Keys * The Black Keys * The Black Keys

[biggiesmallzformayor]

Kanye West & Jay-Z * Kanye West * Child Rebel Soldier
The Black Keys * The Black Keys * The Black Keys

so brave! well I'll keep my word.

[nikkirkpatrick]

Didn't realize evolution hadn't weeded folks like you out yet.

human evolution is over. at least the good kind.

[Nile19]

a few thoughts over the last few pages
regarding RHCP: Lolla and ACL seem very likely, Outside Lands not so much due to Oakland date
regarding Justice: They can headline
regarding Radiohead:I think they could still be at Lolla. They tour Euro in June/July, head over to Asia for Fuji Rock and back here for Lolla and more Am dates. Many bands follow this touring pattern now. I could see a breaking of the Lolla/Coach no same headliners in same year mold, it is not a written in stone thing and festivals are running out of purely exclusive headliners as a whole. Bottom line: either Radiohead announces more dates for later March/ early April in Chicago or they will be at Lolla

[nikkirkpatrick]

lolla and coachella haven't shared a headliner since 2009.

[nikkirkpatrick]

actually, that's the only time they've shared a headliner.

[concertgoer]

irt Nile
Or Radiohead could play Chicago in October before they headline ACL

[Thisismyname]

GUIZE, RADIOHEAD ISN'T PLAYING MMMMMK.

Coachella, tour dates, whatever, doesn't matter, it isn't happening.

[nikkirkpatrick]

THATSWHATTHEYSAIDABOUTDAFTPUNK

[Nile19]

irt Nile
Or Radiohead could play Chicago October before they headline ACL
Fair point, I think we should take bets

[MadBird11]

THATSWHATTHEYSAIDABOUTDAFTPUNK

Daft Punk hadn't played previously.

[nikkirkpatrick]

THAT'S WHAT BUZZ SAID WHEN I SAID DAFT PUNK WOULDN'T PLAY IN 2012.

DOES THAT MEAN THEY WILL?

i forget which side of this argument i'm on.

[MadBird11]

Your post is arguing with itself.

[Thisismyname]

He is right though.

My post totally reads like a Buzz post.

Fuck.

[Krentistthedentist]

Lolla sucks Coachella is better theyre the only fest who will book Radiohead

[nikolajz1]

Still makes no sense why people are saying Radiohead can't play Lolla. They are festival whores. Lolla could just book them and awful shit and it would sell out fast.

[Thisismyname]

Still makes no sense why people are saying Radiohead can't play Lolla. They are festival whores. Lolla could just book them and awful shit and it would sell out fast.


...Radiohead was never going to play Lolla this year. They've flat out said they try and not play the same festival on back to back albums, to not "overstay their welcome" or something of that sort.

.

[nikolajz1]

Hasnt radiohead played Glastonbury like 6 times?

[Thisismyname]

No. They've only headlined it twice. 97 and 2003.

[nikolajz1]

OH I SEE

[BearDownBoilerUp]

I used to care if Radiohead was playing Lolla until my friend decided he was moving back to Canada and sold his STL ticket to me.

[Krentistthedentist]

Oh are you on the floor?

[symbionese]

Hasnt radiohead played Glastonbury like 6 times?

three.

[WretchedSkye2113]

I used to care if Radiohead was playing Lolla until my friend decided he was moving back to Canada and sold his STL ticket to me.

that StL set was infinitely better than the Lolla show.

[nikkirkpatrick]

that StL set was infinitely better than the Lolla show.

this post is so 2008

[carligula]

Without looking at the setlists, I can guarantee the set I saw there in 2003 was even better. Plus, the Jicks opened.

[MookieDaddy]

I was at that STL show too. Ranks #3 of the times I've seen Radiohead.

[WretchedSkye2113]

this post is so 2008

it's still true.
the Lolla set was cool as tits, but that StL show (and probably most of the non-fest shows for that tour) was just out of this world.

and Liars opened! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeimgonnarunawayweeeeeeeee

[Thisismyname]

three.

Four, if you count the secret gig.

[brynrich]

I was at that STL show too. Ranks #3 of the times I've seen Radiohead.

Did you go to any of the Wilco shows that week?

[Leyser]

Four, if you count the secret gig.
'10 was just Jonny and Thom, though

[Nile19]

do you think it is too top heavy to have Radiohead, Meticallica, and RHCP?

[WretchedSkye2113]

given last year, not really no.

i mean price wise, RH, Metallica, RHCP can't be that far off of Eminem, FF, CP (+Muse).
but as the debate has suggested, maybe we'd get a new #1 instead of a repeat.

hard to imagine a new #1 that outranks those 3 though.

[Thisismyname]

'10 was just Jonny and Thom, though

I know.

So it's four if you count the secret gig.

They played way back in the day in an afternoon slot.

[MookieDaddy]

Did you go to any of the Wilco shows that week?

Naw, we only went to STL because Alpine Valley was the only option around here, and I hate that place too much.

[Leyser]

They played way back in the day in an afternoon slot.
Didn't know that, fair enough

[Caseysitsallgood]

hard to imagine a new #1 that outranks those 3 though.

Willie Nelson.

[MadBird11]

Cept Willie Nelson aint a headliner.

[Krentistthedentist]

I would see Willie

[El Goodo]

in a heartbeat.

[brynrich]

Wilie's definitely still worth seeing these days. His son isn't half bad, either.

[MadBird11]

But he's not a headliner, agreed?

[Thisismyname]

You know where he played when he came through Orlando?

Sea World.

[MadBird11]

That sounds pretty awesome, actually.

[symbionese]

Four, if you count the secret gig.

three, if you count when radiohead actually played.

[Thisismyname]

three, if you count radiohead.

Nah.

Keep scrolling.

[Audiobully]

My guesses, based off of Coachella (usually have 25-30 repeats from that festival):


Metallica * Red Hot Chili Peppers * The Black Keys
Jane's Addiction * Drake * Justice * Fleet Foxes
Queens of the Stone Age * Florence + The Machine * TV On The Radio
Primus * M83 * Bon Iver * Santigold * Beady Eye
Joan Jett & The Blackhearts * The Hives * Miike Snow
Cat Power * Kasabian * AWOLNATION * Kaiser Chiefs
GIRLS * M. Ward * Airborne Toxic Event * James
Steel Pulse * Yuck * Madness * The Black Angels
Band Of Skulls * James Blake * Aloe Blacc
The Black Lips * The Head And The Heart * Theophilus London
We Were Promised Jetpacks * Charles Bradley * Telekinesis
Real Estate * First Aid Kit * Bombay Bicycle Club
Sleeper Agent * The Jim Jones Revue * Viva Brother
Locksley * Hard-Fi * Jeff The Brotherhood * K'NAAN
The Limousines * The Parlor Mob * Seasick Steve
Wolf Gang * The Lonely Forest * Funeral Party
Of Monsters & Men * The Last Royals * Atlas Genius

Spinning At Perry's:

Kaskade * Wiz Khalifa * DJ Shadow * Afrojack
Boys Noize * J Cole * SebastiAn * LA Riots
Amon Tobin * Proxy * Calvin Harris * Noisia

[carligula]

I think a lot of folks see Jane's on the Brazil lineup and think they'll come back to Chicago this year. I think Perry just felt like being part of the first one, much like Chile last year.

[Audiobully]

I'm basing that on their earlier Chicago shows (well late 2011, but still) and Chicago not being on the current tour, but many other midwest cities are.

[KevBlu42]

I'm basing that on their earlier Chicago shows (well late 2011, but still) and Chicago not being on the current tour, but many other midwest cities are.

It's hard to say if that increases their chances or not. Could just be due to those Metro shows they played a few months ago.

[thelastonealive]

It would bug me a little if Coach gets Noel Gallagher and and Lolla gets Beady Eye. Noel's stuff is far better than Liam's.

[carligula]

Metallica vs. Drake
Black Keys vs. Tiesto
Blink 182 vs. Vampire Weekend

ACL:
Radiohead
RHCP vs. Bon Iver
Black Keys vs. Justice

[Krentistthedentist]

I am also pretty certain that TBK will play ACL, but with a top 5 this year of Stevie/AF/Coldplay/Kanye/MMJ, could Bon Iver and Justice still headline? Seems like both C3 fests are gravitating towards giant headliners/shitty undercard

[drink]

Metallica * Gorillaz * Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
Vampire Weekend * Florence + The Machine * Justice


yeah ok; i probably suck at this game.

[dij22]

I wonder what your first post was 6 years ago.

[Nile19]

ACL:
Radiohead
RHCP vs. Bon Iver
Black Keys vs. Justice
If this was Lollas lineup I would be a happy man

[carligula]

I am also pretty certain that TBK will play ACL, but with a top 5 this year of Stevie/AF/Coldplay/Kanye/MMJ, could Bon Iver and Justice still headline? Seems like both C3 fests are gravitating towards giant headliners/shitty undercard

It seems there was a time when Lolla alternated between top-heavy lineups and mid-card-heavy lineups. I'm not sure if that's really been the case lately. Someone should analyze that.

[WretchedSkye2113]

It seems there was a time when Lolla alternated between top-heavy lineups and mid-card-heavy lineups. I'm not sure if that's really been the case lately. Someone should analyze that.

06: midcard. (really just rhcp and kw were big)
07: midcard. (PJ and DP were the only massive headliners)
08: top heavy (i mean i'd argue that lineup was thick all the way through, but RH RATM NIN KW is pretty gigantic)
09: midcard. (DM was the only really crazy exclusive huge act)
10: top heavy/balanced (SG, GD, and LG were all big gets, AF, St, and P were all big names/fairly exclusive)
11: pretty damn top heavy. (muse -> mmj is a big jump, as is apc -> cee lo)

[vargo05]

It would bug me a little if Coach gets Noel Gallagher and and Lolla gets Beady Eye. Noel's stuff is far better than Liam's.

I agree. It's probably due to the fact that Noel is the better singer, musician, and songwriter than Liam. Oasis never gets as big as they were is Noel never joins.

Yes, I am Captain Obvious.

[ironmonkey]

My guesses, based off of Coachella (usually have 25-30 repeats from that festival):


Metallica * Red Hot Chili Peppers * The Black Keys
Jane's Addiction * Drake * Justice * Fleet Foxes
Queens of the Stone Age * Florence + The Machine * TV On The Radio
Primus * M83 * Bon Iver * Santigold * Beady Eye
Joan Jett & The Blackhearts * The Hives * Miike Snow
Cat Power * Kasabian * AWOLNATION * Kaiser Chiefs
GIRLS * M. Ward * Airborne Toxic Event * James
Steel Pulse * Yuck * Madness * The Black Angels
Band Of Skulls * James Blake * Aloe Blacc
The Black Lips * The Head And The Heart * Theophilus London
We Were Promised Jetpacks * Charles Bradley * Telekinesis
Real Estate * First Aid Kit * Bombay Bicycle Club
Sleeper Agent * The Jim Jones Revue * Viva Brother
Locksley * Hard-Fi * Jeff The Brotherhood * K'NAAN
The Limousines * The Parlor Mob * Seasick Steve
Wolf Gang * The Lonely Forest * Funeral Party
Of Monsters & Men * The Last Royals * Atlas Genius

Spinning At Perry's:

Kaskade * Wiz Khalifa * DJ Shadow * Afrojack
Boys Noize * J Cole * SebastiAn * LA Riots
Amon Tobin * Proxy * Calvin Harris * Noisia

This would be one of the years that I'd spend all my time checking out the mid/lower bands and skipping out for a nice dinner after the subs.

[KevBlu42]

My guesses, based off of Coachella (usually have 25-30 repeats from that festival):


Metallica * Red Hot Chili Peppers * The Black Keys
Jane's Addiction * Drake * Justice * Fleet Foxes
Queens of the Stone Age * Florence + The Machine * TV On The Radio
Primus * M83 * Bon Iver * Santigold * Beady Eye
Joan Jett & The Blackhearts * The Hives * Miike Snow
Cat Power * Kasabian * AWOLNATION * Kaiser Chiefs
GIRLS * M. Ward * Airborne Toxic Event * James
Steel Pulse * Yuck * Madness * The Black Angels
Band Of Skulls * James Blake * Aloe Blacc
The Black Lips * The Head And The Heart * Theophilus London
We Were Promised Jetpacks * Charles Bradley * Telekinesis
Real Estate * First Aid Kit * Bombay Bicycle Club
Sleeper Agent * The Jim Jones Revue * Viva Brother
Locksley * Hard-Fi * Jeff The Brotherhood * K'NAAN
The Limousines * The Parlor Mob * Seasick Steve
Wolf Gang * The Lonely Forest * Funeral Party
Of Monsters & Men * The Last Royals * Atlas Genius

Spinning At Perry's:

Kaskade * Wiz Khalifa * DJ Shadow * Afrojack
Boys Noize * J Cole * SebastiAn * LA Riots
Amon Tobin * Proxy * Calvin Harris * Noisia

I'd just buy a single day pass for Metallica and QOTSA, assuming they're Metallica's sub (they seem most appropriate). And assuming they still have one-days this year.

[MookieDaddy]

The one-days aren't going away, C3 makes tons of money off those.

[Krentistthedentist]

4/6 for the headliners. Could be worse.
And the best sub any festival could ever get is no doubt a plus

[BearDownBoilerUp]

AWOLNATION gets mid-tier?

[WretchedSkye2113]

And the best sub any festival could ever get is no doubt a plus

cant tell if qotsa or tvotr.

[ironmonkey]

cant tell if qotsa or tvotr.

or Santigold

[Krentistthedentist]

cant tell if qotsa or tvotr.

http://www.sohh.com/kanye-nigga-please-2011-12-5-300x300.jpg

[drink]

I wonder what your first post was 6 years ago.

me too.

[thombjorke.]

Radiohead - Metallica - Black Keys
Drake - Bjork - Vampire Weekend


Would be the best case semi-plausible scenario, no?

[BearDownBoilerUp]

So long as Perry's and The Grove have some good alternatives for everything that is not Radiohead...

[concertgoer]

Ok Krentist

[Krentistthedentist]

Question : will vultures be headliners by album 2?

[nikolajz1]

Radiohead - Metallica - Black Keys
Drake - Bjork - Vampire Weekend


Would be the best case semi-plausible scenario, no?

Drake wouldnt be a North side headliner. His crowd would be huge.

[Thisismyname]

If Coldplay can play the North Stage, just about anyone can.

Just make sure he's up against an equally big artist on the south stage.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

Ok Krentist

krentist likes at least 3 of those headliner so... wut

[nikolajz1]

If Coldplay can play the North Stage, just about anyone can.

Just make sure he's up against an equally big artist on the south stage.

True, but Drake is even bigger than Coldplay now a days. Probably close to Eminem in popularity.

[Thisismyname]

...

wut.

Drake can sell out the Hollywood Bowl three times over in a matter of hours? News to me. Seriously, I have no clue.

[Krentistthedentist]

...

wut.

Drake can sell out the Hollywood Bowl three times over in a matter of hours? News to me. Seriously, I have no clue.

Drake has been more successful on the charts lately. Take Care moved 657k in week 1 (compared to 4 something for coldplay) and has since gone platinum. I think/hope that's what Nik is alluding to, but Coldplay is still a way bigger live draw and when they play, it's a much bigger deal than when Drake plays.

EDIT: just read Nik's post. It seems like he was comparing the two band's live draws. Yeah, stupid.

[Krentistthedentist]

Ok Krentist

I like literally every single one of those headliners.

[Krentistthedentist]

Radiohead - Metallica - Black Keys
Drake - Bjork - Vampire Weekend


Would be the best case semi-plausible scenario, no?

Yep, this would be fantastic by modern day lolla standards. Metallica would be my #1 priority.

[Krentistthedentist]

I like literally every single one of those headliners.

And being me is hardly a bad thing.

[Caseysitsallgood]

Drake wouldnt be a North side headliner. His crowd would be huge.

get the fuck out. no way. how many rappers deserve the South side? Kanye. Eminem. Jay. Beastie Boys. anyone else I'm forgetting? Oukast probably?

[Krentistthedentist]

get the fuck out. no way. how many rappers deserve the South side? Kanye. Eminem. Jay. Beastie Boys. anyone else I'm forgetting? Oukast probably?

racccciiisssssttt

[mgignac]

Personally I don't think there's any chance Drake would be on the South Stage with the mock lineups floating around. What are they going to do, throw TBK or Radiohead on the north stage? There's no realistic matchup that puts Drake on SS.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

The South stage is way too big for Drake.

[thombjorke.]

Drake wouldnt be a North side headliner. His crowd would be huge.

Wouldn't be that huge if he was against Radiohead. He'd still have a lot of people there but it would be a good crowd distribution.

[MadBird11]

Nah, it'd be against the Keys. Whites to one side, krentist whites to the other side.

[concertgoer]

krentist likes at least 3 of those headliner so... wut

I was replying to your Radiohead comment

[concertgoer]

True, but Drake is even bigger than Coldplay now a days. Probably close to Eminem in popularity.

LOL no

[drink]

would bjork really be a legit headliner? i know she is billed high on the chile poster. and sure her video with the robot from 1999 or whenever has a lot of youtube views but is her music really that popular in the midwest right now? i would expect florence + the machine or mumford & sons or even fleet foxes to be bigger names here than bjork. am i wrong?

i dont mean to say bjork isnt awesome though.

[concertgoer]

If Bjork plays she will headline.

[thombjorke.]

She'd headline but definitely North Stage at this point.

[Krentistthedentist]

Nah, it'd be against the Keys. Whites to one side, krentist whites to the other side.

You're forgetting that my other half is 10x the wigger I am.

[concertgoer]

You're forgetting that my other half is 10x the wigger I am.

This is true.

[MadBird11]

You're forgetting that my other half is 10x the wigger I am.

Where'd he go anyway?

[Nile19]

I think everyone is overestimating how high Drake would be... I think he would be a bottom headliner at best

[concertgoer]

One thing is for sure, he wouldn't play the South stage.

[MadBird11]

4-6 spot is about as realistic as it gets.

[concertgoer]

Yep

[Krentistthedentist]

Where'd he go anyway?

Tha hood. Xbox. Ikea.

[IAmScareMongering]

The Black Keys on the South/Drake on the North.

[thombjorke.]

Was Eminem heavily rumored before the headliners leaked last year?


Maybe the #1 this year will be someone unexpected.

[MadBird11]

The Black Keys on the South/Drake on the North.

Sounds good to me.


Was Eminem heavily rumored before the headliners leaked last year?


Maybe the #1 this year will be someone unexpected.

Not that I can recall, no, at least not until the Roo lineup came out. If I were a betting man I'd pick Metallica to be Lolla's #1, but I don't bet.

[concertgoer]

The Black Keys vs Drake would be ideal for me.

[MadBird11]

I think I'd see the Keys in that matchup.

[concertgoer]

You know I would

[WretchedSkye2113]

Was Eminem heavily rumored before the headliners leaked last year?


Maybe the #1 this year will be someone unexpected.

Eminem, Foo Fighters, and Muse were leaked in an article in January.
we knew about them before we even knew the Bonnaroo lineup.

[MadBird11]

Eminem, Foo Fighters, and Muse were leaked in an article in January.
we knew about them before we even knew the Bonnaroo lineup.

That's right, Kot's article came out earlier than it usually does.

My bad.

[WretchedSkye2113]

no worries.
i just remember that one because it seemed so early to know that much about the headliners. especially when we already guessed that MMJ and APC would be there, and shortly after the Kot article, Perry leaked that Deadmau5 (errr "some edm act") would also headline.

Coldplay was the only surprise last year, and even ktd and some others had that figured out early.

[WretchedSkye2113]

also, if Lolla is still gonna be as top heavy as last year, the lineups we're throwing out there don't quite add up.
Drake, VW, and even TBK (i know i know) won't add up to what the top 4 or 5 cost last year.
so either we get a better midcard, or there are bigger names that we haven't put together yet.

i still think Metallica, RHCP, Yeezy, and Bjork will occupy the top 4.

[thombjorke.]

Drake is bigger than Bjork in America.

[concertgoer]

Pretty sure that the article came out in February.

[WretchedSkye2113]

whatever. it came out before the Roo lineup.

[IAmScareMongering]

Coldplay was the only surprise last year, and even ktd and some others had that figured out early.

Coldplay was as "figured out" last year as Metallica is this year.

[Krentistthedentist]

Drake is bigger than Bjork in America.

Yeah, probably.
He'll be goin platinum in a year again

Wretched has some stupid perceptions of how popular bands are.

[drink]

RADIOHEAD * TOM PETTY & THE HEARTBREAKERS * RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS
DRAKE * VAMPIRE WEEKEND * JUSTICE * FLORENCE + THE MACHINE
WIZ KAHLIFA * FLEET FOXES * THE SHINS * QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE * PASSION PIT * BON IVER
M83 * TV ON THE RADIO * JOAN JETT & THE BLACKHEARTS * ST VINCENT * FRANK OCEAN
MIIKE SNOW * GARBAGE * GIRLS * SANTIGOLD * NEON INDIAN * CAT POWER * YUCK
M. WARD * KASABIAN * CURREN$Y * THE BIG PINK * DESTROYER * THE WEEKND
BLACK JOE LEWIS & THE HONEYBEARS * WE WERE PROMISED JETPACKS
…
KASKADE * AMON TOBIN * FLYING LOTUS
FLUX PAVILION * PORTER ROBINSON * NOISIA * FEED ME * R3HAB
…
S: F+TM > (St. Vincent) > RHCP
P: Kaskade
N: M83 > (TV on the Radio) > Justice

S: Fleet Foxes > (Bon Iver) > Radiohead
P: Amon Tobin
N: Wiz Kahlifa > (Frank Ocean) > Drake

S: QOTSA > (Joan Jett) > Tom Petty
P: Flying lotus
N: The Shins > (Passion Pit) > Vampire Weekend

something like that? or maybe substitute metallica in for one of those top three and shift it around so it makes sense. i do think drake would be a headliner.

[concertgoer]

TVOTR, Passion Pit and Bon Iver are all way too big to play the Grove

[WretchedSkye2113]

Wretched has some stupid perceptions of how popular bands are.

right, i'm the one being unrealistic here...

[Krentistthedentist]

I hope RHCP vs Justice never fucking happens ever.

Also, The Black Keys are like the biggest band in the world and are big enough to be a top 4 at a C3 fest.

[drink]

TVOTR, Passion Pit and Bon Iver are all way too big to play the Grove

i think youre right. they are all side stage or something.

[drink]

i hope we are not getting black keys for the fifth time.

[concertgoer]

i think youre right. they are all side stage or something.

No they are all main stage bands. Hell Passion Pit and Bon Iver might even be headliners.

[Sk8guyj18]

RADIOHEAD * TOM PETTY & THE HEARTBREAKERS * RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS
DRAKE * VAMPIRE WEEKEND * JUSTICE * FLORENCE + THE MACHINE
WIZ KAHLIFA * FLEET FOXES * THE SHINS * QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE * PASSION PIT * BON IVER
M83 * TV ON THE RADIO * JOAN JETT & THE BLACKHEARTS * ST VINCENT * FRANK OCEAN
MIIKE SNOW * GARBAGE * GIRLS * SANTIGOLD * NEON INDIAN * CAT POWER * YUCK
M. WARD * KASABIAN * CURREN$Y * THE BIG PINK * DESTROYER * THE WEEKND
BLACK JOE LEWIS & THE HONEYBEARS * WE WERE PROMISED JETPACKS
…
KASKADE * AMON TOBIN * FLYING LOTUS
FLUX PAVILION * PORTER ROBINSON * NOISIA * FEED ME * R3HAB
…

so basically 60 percent of Coachella comes to Lolla12?

[BearDownBoilerUp]

Yes, like every other year.

[Nile19]

I hope RHCP vs Justice never fucking happens ever.


They can play together

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctc7LvbMXzU

[carligula]

Forgive me for asking this, but have we ruled out JayZ and Kanye as a headliner? Drake seems likely and that would be a lot of raps on the top lines, but I can't help but thinking this would make sense as a #1 for 2012.

[Nile19]

Forgive me for asking this, but have we ruled out JayZ and Kanye as a headliner? Drake seems likely and that would be a lot of raps on the top lines, but I can't help but thinking this would make sense as a #1 for 2012.

Do you mean Jay or Kayne, or together/ The Throne

[carligula]

Drake is bigger than Bjork in America.

Lady Gaga is bigger than Soundgarden in every country and she has been since the 2010 lineup was revealed.

[carligula]

Together. Is their collaboration actually called (Watch) The Throne or is that just the album title? People keep calling them that on the board, but I don't think that's how they would be billed.

[WretchedSkye2113]

they would be billed as Jay-Z and Kanye West. The Throne isn't a board-invented moniker but i don't think they're ever billed as that.

and they've been discussed as a possibility, but i think the argument is that they're ruled out because of the Chicago show in december and there's no news if they'll actually keep touring.

[thombjorke.]

Lady Gaga is bigger than Soundgarden in every country and she has been since the 2010 lineup was revealed.

But she was just reaching that peak popularity at that time and the Soundgarden show was the first one in over a decade (besides that secret show).

[drink]

No they are all main stage bands. Hell Passion Pit and Bon Iver might even be headliners.

i dont listen or pay any attention to bon iver. they might be bigger than i think they are. but i doubt either bon iver or passion pit are any bigger than arctic monkeys, cee lo, the national, metric, wolfmother, and other popular non-headliners of the past few years (and many were on side stages).

[carligula]

But she was just reaching that peak popularity at that time and the Soundgarden show was the first one in over a decade (besides that secret show).

Good point. I was trying to suggest that they don't always bill based on present popularity, but maybe that wasn't the best example.

[thombjorke.]

Good point. I was trying to suggest that they don't always bill based on present popularity, but maybe that wasn't the best example.

True but I feel that Drake is significantly more popular than Bjork in America.

[Krentistthedentist]

Forgive me for asking this, but have we ruled out JayZ and Kanye as a headliner? Drake seems likely and that would be a lot of raps on the top lines, but I can't help but thinking this would make sense as a #1 for 2012.

The rumor mill is Europe next spring, so they'll still be playing shows up until probably May or so. I think it's unlikely, though.

[chochif]

i read somewhere the killers are making something for this year... would this make them a possiblility?

[Nile19]

i read somewhere the killers are making something for this year... would this make them a possiblility?

I think it is possible, however I think they make more sense to be at ACL. They headlined Lolla in 09 and the last time they were at ACL was 07.

[nikolajz1]

ACL's top 3 is gonna be

Radiohead- The Black Keys- The Killers

[Nile19]

Does anyone think its strange that Dave Matthews Band has never played Lolla?

[carligula]

Does anyone think its strange that Dave Matthews Band has never played Lolla?

I think it's strange that Widespread Panic HAS played Chicagopalooza. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a precedent for DMB. I guess some people think it's a short step to them from MMJ, but I still don't feel that DMB fits whatever can be described as the Lollapalooza "vibe". If we get another "Jam-friendly" act, I think it will be Phish.

[carligula]

ACL's top 3 is gonna be

Radiohead- The Black Keys- The Killers

Where would RHCP be billed?

[carligula]

i read somewhere the killers are making something for this year... would this make them a possiblility?

Hot Fuss Jun 2004> Lolla 2005
Sam's Town Oct 2006 > ACL 2007
Day and Age Nov 2008 > Lolla 2009
New album 2012 > ACL 2013?

[johnd12751]

I think the Killers will be at ACL this year and then headline Lolla in 2013. I just dont think 3 years is enough to be repeating headliners.

[concertgoer]

Does anyone think its strange that Dave Matthews Band has never played Lolla?

Nope and let's keep it that way. Anyway with the success of their own festivals I doubt they will be playing any of the American festivals anymore.

[dij22]

i dont listen or pay any attention to bon iver. they might be bigger than i think they are. but i doubt either bon iver or passion pit are any bigger than arctic monkeys, cee lo, the national, metric, wolfmother, and other popular non-headliners of the past few years (and many were on side stages).

Bon Iver is bigger than literally all of those bands.

[thombjorke.]

Does anyone think its strange that Dave Matthews Band has never played Lolla?

Now that you mention it I don't think it would be that strange to see them headline.

[MadBird11]

I think it would suck. Are they bringing their festival back this summer?

[thombjorke.]

I don't follow them that closely but I think that the reason they did the festivals last year is because they wanted to take a summer off from doing a full tour. So I imagine they would just do a regular summer tour this year.

[mgignac]

DMB is contracted with Lakeside to play more shows there; I think the general assumption around the DMB fan-clouds is that he'll be bringing Caravan back in 2012, even if its a smaller deal.

[Krentistthedentist]

I think it's strange that Widespread Panic HAS played Chicagopalooza. Otherwise, there wouldn't be a precedent for DMB. I guess some people think it's a short step to them from MMJ, but I still don't feel that DMB fits whatever can be described as the Lollapalooza "vibe". If we get another "Jam-friendly" act, I think it will be Phish.

Hmm.
Lolla seems to be all about the bros.
It will be DMB

[mgignac]

Instead of RHCP, throw a curveball and give us Aerosmith. They've got new stuff coming out, rumored for May. They're a guilty pleasure of mine, and frankly I think they'd be a pretty good festival band.

[nikkirkpatrick]

Instead of RHCP, throw a curveball and give us Aerosmith. They've got new stuff coming out, rumored for May. They're a guilty pleasure of mine, and frankly I think they'd be a pretty good festival band.

reason #462 why Aerosmith should not play chicagopalooza.

[arbee]

Instead of RHCP, throw a curveball and give us Aerosmith. They've got new stuff coming out, rumored for May. They're a guilty pleasure of mine, and frankly I think they'd be a pretty good festival band.

ya i love Aerosmith, but there's no way they would ever book them for Lollapalooza.

[mgignac]

Didn't know they were that heavily opposed

[WretchedSkye2113]

DMB is contracted with Lakeside to play more shows there; I think the general assumption around the DMB fan-clouds is that he'll be bringing Caravan back in 2012, even if its a smaller deal.

yeah i was gonna say that i thought DMB still had that festival going on at around the same time.

[Nile19]

I hope DMB avoids Lolla too
Also, if not Radiohead, the other number one headliner I'm realistically-ish hoping for is Bruce

[MadBird11]

Nobody older than Perry is allowed to headline Lollapalooza. It's not what the kids need, man.

[fan o gano]

Remember when Jane's Addiction played and Perry asked the crowd if they wanted Aerosmith to play the next year?

[carligula]

Bruce Springstein keeps coming up as a potential #1. Does he really fit as a Lollapalooza headliner, though? I can't think of any other past headliners like him. He seems like one of those acts that would work for Roo, Coachella or ACL but not Lolla.

[oasisfan]

I think Bruce fits the Roo festival best.

[thombjorke.]

Bruce Springstein keeps coming up as a potential #1. Does he really fit as a Lollapalooza headliner, though? I can't think of any other past headliners like him. He seems like one of those acts that would work for Roo, Coachella or ACL but not Lolla.

Well I don't think Depeche Mode caters to the supposed stereotypical Lolla crowd either.

[johnd12751]

Bon Iver is bigger than literally all of those bands.
I wouldnt say bigger than the Arctic Monkeys, but the others probably.

[thombjorke.]

I wouldnt say bigger than the Arctic Monkeys, but the others probably.

Maybe not in Europe but Bon Iver is billed three spots higher at Coachella.

[johnd12751]

and At the Drive In is higher than both of them. Coachella is irrelevant.

[thombjorke.]

Bon Iver also sells a lot more albums in the U.S.

[oasisfan]

Coachella has a fucked up way of ranking acts on their day though.

[concertgoer]

Have The Arctic Monkeys headlined an arena in Chicago? I didn't think so

[johnd12751]

Headlining UIC pavillion and opening up for the keys at the united center is pretty different. UIC pavillion capacity is 6.5k, while United Center is 23k.

[concertgoer]

Seriously?

[johnd12751]

I'd say they are still equal though

[WretchedSkye2113]

Bruce Springstein keeps coming up as a potential #1. Does he really fit as a Lollapalooza headliner, though?

nope.nopenopenopenopethankgodnopenopenopenope.

[Broc1123]

So many stupid things are said in here!

[thombjorke.]

nope.nopenopenopenopethankgodnopenopenopenope.

You wouldn't prefer him to DMB or RHCP (who everyone seems to hate in here)?

[WretchedSkye2113]

i suppose he's a lesser of two evils in comparison to dmb.
rhcp would be perfectly fine over either though, as long as we get a few BSSM songs- or some By The Way.

[concertgoer]

Ugh to the last two Wretched posts

[nikolajz1]

I dont see why Bruce couldnt play Lolla.

[thombjorke.]

Yeah they could just put Drake on the north side or Wiz Khalifa at Perry's to satisfy the bros.

[nikolajz1]

I could see something like this. The Black Keys (S) vs. Drake (N) vs. Justice (Perry's) vs. M83 (Google+)

[concertgoer]

That would be a turrible three way conflict

[nikolajz1]

That would be a turrible four way conflict

fixed

[nikolajz1]

The Black Keys (S) vs. Drake (N) vs. Skrillex (Perry's) vs. M83 (Google+)
Adele (S) vs. The Cure (N) vs. Swedish House Mafia (Perry's) vs. The Hives (Google +)
Red Hot Chili Peppers (S) vs. Justice (N) vs. Wiz Khalifa (Perry's) vs. Pulp (Google +)

[concertgoer]

Pulp isn't playing and SHM are too big for Perry's at this point.

[thombjorke.]

Swedish House Mafia would headline over Justice. They are way too big for Perry's. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if they were a north stage headliner this year.

Also Pulp would probably sub.

[MadBird11]

The Black Keys (S) vs. Drake (N) vs. Skrillex (Perry's) vs. M83 (Google+)
Adele (S) vs. The Cure (N) vs. Swedish House Mafia (Perry's) vs. The Hives (Google +)
Red Hot Chili Peppers (S) vs. Justice (N) vs. Wiz Khalifa (Perry's) vs. Pulp (Google +)

Aside from the Cure which is obviously an easy call, fuck this scheduling.

[WretchedSkye2113]

I dont see why Bruce couldnt play Lolla.

the classic rock vibe bands go to ACL if anything.
lolla's oldest band is what- Depeche Mode? followed by Metallica.

lolla's catering to hipsters and alt rock fans. i don't see bruce fitting the bill.
(not saying it's impossible since there's no other big #1 headliner discussed yet that wouldn't be a repeat)

[MadBird11]

I kind of want Bruce to play against Drake or some other bro act just cause it'd be the smallest crowd possible on the South. And yes, I'm still pissed that I had to see Kolol over Depeche back in 09.

[thombjorke.]

I kind of want Bruce to play against Drake or some other bro act just cause it'd be the smallest crowd possible on the South. And yes, I'm still pissed that I had to see Kolol over Depeche back in 09.

You were held at gunpoint? I'm so sorry.

[concertgoer]

Yeah as much as would love for it to happen I don't see The Boss playing.

[MadBird11]

Might as well have been a gun. Kept waiting for the damn thing to shoot me all weekend.

[thombjorke.]

Has anyone on this board ever been able to correctly guess all six headliners before any solid rumors got out?

[MadBird11]

What do you think.

[thombjorke.]

IDK there are hundreds of pages of random guesses so possibly some years.

[MadBird11]

No.

Nobody on this board knows anything.

Everyone acts like it, but no.

[WretchedSkye2113]

I kind of want Bruce to play against Drake or some other bro act just cause it'd be the smallest crowd possible on the South.

...i'd actually consider seeing Bassnectar at Perry's over those 2.

[concertgoer]

:(

[WretchedSkye2113]

at least Bassnectar guarantees i won't have to be sober for all 2 hours.

[Krentistthedentist]

:(

Seriously terrible.

[Korman]

Cure confirm (http://consequenceofsound.net/2012/01/the-cure-confirms-european-festival-appearances/) European festival tour dates.

It's something.

[MadBird11]

Means it's 12 hours late and the Cure ain't coming to Lolla (which we already knew anyway).

[nikolajz1]

Means it's 12 hours late and the Cure ain't coming to Lolla (which we already knew anyway).

I would laugh so hard that after all the shit Lolla has gotten if they booked Radiohead and The Cure :D

So hoping it happens just so people shut up hehe.


Radiohead- Kanye West- The Black Keys- The Cure
Wilco- Justice- Bon Iver
The Shins- Florence and the Machine- The xx- m83- The Weeknd

Florence and the Machine-->Radiohead vs. Justice<--The xx (Wiz Khalifa @ Perry's; The Hives @ Google+)
The Weeknd --> Kanye West vs. Wilco <-- Bon Iver (Calvin Harris @ Perry's; New Order @ Google +)
The Shins-->The Black Keys vs. The Cure <-- m83 (Skrillex @ Perry's; Of Montreal @ Google +)

BOOM BEST LOLLA (that actually could be feasible/if I was in charge)

[Audiobully]

That would blow.

[carligula]

The Black Keys (S) vs. Drake (N) vs. Skrillex (Perry's) vs. M83 (Google+)
Adele (S) vs. The Cure (N) vs. Swedish House Mafia (Perry's) vs. The Hives (Google +)
Red Hot Chili Peppers (S) vs. Justice (N) vs. Wiz Khalifa (Perry's) vs. Pulp (Google +)

You would really expect Adele to be on a bigger stage than the Cure at Lollapalooza?

[johnd12751]

lol i just noticed that too carl

[MadBird11]

You would really expect Adele to be on a bigger stage than the Cure at Lollapalooza?

To defend niko (sort of), she is pretty big.

[concertgoer]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

[MadBird11]

Fat joke went over your head?

[concertgoer]

No I got the joke. I just feel the need to always zzzzzzzzzzzzz anytime I see Adele mentioned.

[Broc1123]

M83 is playing Summerstage in NY August 8th, looks like Lolla for them. Can't remember a better first confirmation or strong rumor.

[concertgoer]

That would make for a great start to the lineup. I still think it's possible that he plays Pitchfork instead of Lolla though. Remember last year when Cold Cave had dates which we all thought made them a lock and then they ended up getting added to Pitchfork?

[Nile19]

If we are adding M83 as a lock (as cos did), should we consider RHCP the same?

[concertgoer]

We should wait to see if RCHP announce a Chicago show.

[MadBird11]

m83 is by no means confirmed. Plausible, yes. Anything more is idiotic.

[concertgoer]

Also CoS didn't confirm them they just listed them as logical.

[Nile19]

Right. So right now we have a "logical list" of M83 and RHCP based on tour dates, yes? Any more we can think of?

[nikkirkpatrick]

Logical

[thombjorke.]

Cure confirm (http://consequenceofsound.net/2012/01/the-cure-confirms-european-festival-appearances/) European festival tour dates.

It's something.

The main reason I can't imagine the Cure at Lolla is because of time constraints. Don't they always like to have 3 hour sets? I can't imagine them starting at 7 at Lolla.

[JML]

Green Day started at 7:45, The Cure could have something like that and just cut some songs out.

I don't think The Cure will be there though.

[nikolajz1]

To defend niko (sort of), she is pretty big.

lololol, but yeah Carl. She's probably the most popular artist today. If she played a festival, she'd more than likely be a #1. And in regards to The Cure, if they play Lolla I think they'd play the north stage. I can't imagine a great deal of people caring. A crowd the size of Depeche Mode would be respectable for the Cure.

[carligula]

Right. So right now we have a "logical list" of M83 and RHCP based on tour dates, yes? Any more we can think of?

New York is closer to Chicago than LA. And Finland is a hell of a lot further away than both. RHCP has 2-4 days to get to Lolla from there. Does that sound logical to you? Do they have a lot of other transcontinental gigs with half a week inbetween?

[carligula]

lololol, but yeah Carl. She's probably the most popular artist today. If she played a festival, she'd more than likely be a #1. And in regards to The Cure, if they play Lolla I think they'd play the north stage. I can't imagine a great deal of people caring. A crowd the size of Depeche Mode would be respectable for the Cure.

If Gaga can be booked after Soundgarden and Green Day in 2010, you can bet Adele can be booked after The Cure.

[nikolajz1]

Unlike Soundgarden and Green Day, no one cares about The Cure anymore.

[aerm86]

I think RHCP gonna be there... & Buzzcooks would be nice.

Someone has on mind "The Stones Roses"?

[MadBird11]

Get out.

Last time I try helping you in regards to lineups and this forum and bullshit...

[MadBird11]

I think RHCP gonna be there... & Buzzcooks would be nice.

Someone has on mind "The Stones Roses"?

You can get out too while we're at it.

Actually, that was mean. Let me try again.

Buzzcocks and Stone Roses wouldn't headline. Roses won't even play the fest regardless.

RHCP might (unfortunately) be there.

[nikolajz1]

Get out.

Last time I try helping you in regards to lineups and this forum and bullshit...

Why? I mean I love The Cure, but the board way overrates their popularity. The North Stage would be a perfect spot for them.

[joelmanfu]

Why? I mean I love The Cure, but the board way overrates their popularity. The North Stage would be a perfect spot for them.

i second that

[Thisismyname]

Soundgarden was a reunion, so there's that bump of course, but if you think Soundgarden is that much of a bigger act than the Cure with Lolla's younger demographics, you're kidding yourself.

[aerm86]

You can get out too while we're at it.

Actually, that was mean. Let me try again.

Buzzcocks and Stone Roses wouldn't headline. Roses won't even play the fest regardless.

RHCP might (unfortunately) be there.

I never said Buzzcooks would be a headline, & Stones Roses has a headline festival with Radiohead in Japan two weeks before Lollapalooza

[johnd12751]

would the kooks sub or headline? im really unaware of their popularity

[MadBird11]

I never said Buzzcooks would be a headline, & Stones Roses has a headline festival with Radiohead in Japan two weeks before Lollapalooza

So you brought it up in the headliner thread because...

[brynrich]

lololol, but yeah Carl. She's probably the most popular artist today. If she played a festival, she'd more than likely be a #1. And in regards to The Cure, if they play Lolla I think they'd play the north stage. I can't imagine a great deal of people caring. A crowd the size of Depeche Mode would be respectable for the Cure.

You're the fucking worst

[nikolajz1]

You're the fucking worst

i just tell the truth

[Thisismyname]

i just tell what I think is the truth

.

[sleeping]

would the kooks sub or headline? im really unaware of their popularity
They're opening for Foster the People on their next tour.

[johnd12751]

oh interesting

[thombjorke.]

would the kooks sub or headline? im really unaware of their popularity

neither

[El Goodo]

What is the story with the period at the end of your name?

[arbee]

They're opening for Foster the People on their next tour.

that is seriously fucking troubling!

[El Goodo]

More troubling for me is that I probably have to go to that show because I drunkenly promised one of my best buds I would go with him. Ugh.

[thombjorke.]

What is the story with the period at the end of your name?

"thombjorke" was taken/not available so I just put a period at the end

[Krentistthedentist]

i just tell the truth

Actually, you are just clueless.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

i don't remember niko being wrong about literally everything before. what happened there?

[nikolajz1]

Actually, you are just clueless.

Clueless in believing Adele is bigger than The Cure? wtf. I dont understand. If Coldplay and Arcade Fire could play the North stage, it'll be fine for The Cure if they play.

And if Adele played her crowd would probably be as big as Eminem's was last year.

[Nile19]

New York is closer to Chicago than LA. And Finland is a hell of a lot further away than both. RHCP has 2-4 days to get to Lolla from there. Does that sound logical to you? Do they have a lot of other transcontinental gigs with half a week inbetween?

Carl, I will buy you a beer if RHCP is not at Lolla

[concertgoer]

Why? I mean I love The Cure, but the board way overrates their popularity. The North Stage would be a perfect spot for them.

Since when do you love The Cure?

[nikolajz1]

This was established a while ago I thought?

Although I would pretty easily see Adele over The Cure if that conflict ever arose :p