It Starts Now: Volume Four - 2012 Lollapalooza Headliner Speculation

[Nile19]

a. many more in the magazine...
I don't know what this means..

[JML]

Read my post above his and think about it.

[MadBird11]

Doesn't rule them out, unfortunately.

[concertgoer]

They aren't going to let a top three headliner play an arena show that close to Lolla. They are out.

[sonickteam]

After standing in massive crowds to watch Muse and Eminem last year....im hoping for crappy but popular headliners and sweet ass Grove closers each night...

[Nile19]

They aren't going to let a top three headliner play an arena show that close to Lolla. They are out.

Agree, back to the drawing board for me...
my Radiohead hope is still alive

[KevBlu42]

Agree, back to the drawing board for me...
my Radiohead hope is still alive

I can't remember which thread it was in, but didn't someone post a leaked Radiohead date at the Tweeter Center for June? That would surely count them out as well.

All of this makes Metallica sound more likely, which makes me :)

[jcfrank2]

EDIT: Is Tom Petty 100% a headliner or if say Lolla lands someone like PJ, would he be a lead-in?

Petty is a headliner, no question.

[Nile19]

I can't remember which thread it was in, but didn't someone post a leaked Radiohead date at the Tweeter Center for June? That would surely count them out as well.

All of this makes Metallica sound more likely, which makes me :)

If thats true ya it would rule them out, but idk who said that or how good that info is, and I dont see a reason why Radiohead and Metallica can't both be there

[JML]

I can't remember which thread it was in, but didn't someone post a leaked Radiohead date at the Tweeter Center for June? That would surely count them out as well.


The details on that are sketchy though, it sounds plausible but those dates are by no means confirmed.

[KevBlu42]

If thats true ya it would rule them out, but idk who said that or how good that info is, and I dont see a reason why Radiohead and Metallica can't both be there

They definitely both could be. It's just more of a process of elimination thing. There's a very small group of acts that could potentially be top-line headliners and if RHCP and Radiohead are out, that seemingly raises the odds of getting Metallica (and Pearl Jam, whoever else).

[Driftwood]

Really happy to be wrong abut RHCP. :)

[Driftwood]

EDIT: Is Tom Petty 100% a headliner or if say Lolla lands someone like PJ, would he be a lead-in?

So lulzy.

[ironmonkey]

I vote Blur, I would be very happy

I'd be Batshit crazy if they were to play.....doesn't Graham having a solo album coming in April make something like this less likely?

[Driftwood]

Blur aren't playing guys. Moving on.

[Driftwood]

Is everyone convinced Bjork will be a North side headliner? She was on the bigger stage versus The Killers in 2007 at ACL and second overall on their line-up (behind Bob Dylan, ahead of White Stripes before they canceled).

The last two years probably suggest otherwise huh?

[nikkirkpatrick]

Blue Cross Blue Shield of MI uses the Cure for their hold music. Confirmed?

[thombjorke.]

Is everyone convinced Bjork will be a North side headliner? She was on the bigger stage versus The Killers in 2007 at ACL and second overall on their line-up (behind Bob Dylan, ahead of White Stripes before they canceled).

The last two years probably suggest otherwise huh?

pretty much

if she's there at all which is far from certain

[Driftwood]

What about Drake? Is he at UIC type venues or Allstate?

[Driftwood]

Seems a bit mixed. Not sure if he is South in any scenario.

[thombjorke.]

his upcoming tour is all arenas

[concertgoer]

Watch The Throne- Metallica- The Cure
No Doubt- Vampire Weekend- Swedish House Mafia

[thombjorke.]

Watch The Throne- Metallica- The Cure
No Doubt- Vampire Weekend- Swedish House Mafia

This is not too unrealistic (except maybe VW being a 5 if they don't have a new album out by then) and would be pretty awesome.

[Driftwood]

I really think Drake is playing and we won't get WTT and Drake.

[Driftwood]

his upcoming tour is all arenas

So you think South for him is possible?

[Nile19]

I just cant get on board with Drake and Vampire Weekend... I think both of them are either heavy subs or barely headliners

[thombjorke.]

So you think South for him is possible?

Depends on who else headlining.

[danzip53]

Watch The Throne- Metallica- The Cure
No Doubt- Vampire Weekend- Swedish House Mafia

Is swedish house mafia really that big?

[Broc1123]

Is swedish house mafia really that big?

Sold out MSG.

[Krentistthedentist]

This is not too unrealistic (except maybe VW being a 5 if they don't have a new album out by then) and would be pretty awesome.

VW has more pull with the average Lollagoer than MMJ

[concertgoer]

VW has more pull with the average Lollagoer than MMJ

This

[Krentistthedentist]

EDIT: Is Tom Petty 100% a headliner or if say Lolla lands someone like PJ, would he be a lead-in?

bwaahahhahahahahahahahahhahahah

[Krentistthedentist]

Also I just want to say what a treat it was to wake up to a text that said "RHCP is playing the Allstate in late May so probably no Lolla"

[ironmonkey]

Sold out MSG.

I can't believe a group with one album that didn't crack the top 100 would be a headliner at lolla....

[thombjorke.]

Sold out MSG.

On a side note, who would want to watch an EDM show (regardless of quality) from nosebleed seats in an arena?

[JML]

I can't believe a group with one album that didn't crack the top 100 would be a headliner at lolla....

Look up other headline-level EDM acts like Deadmau5 or Tiesto..they don't have albums that chart very well either.

[Driftwood]

VW has more pull with the average Lollagoer than MMJ

So do all those other bands we discussed but you see it differently with some of them.

Have they played / sold out Aragon yet even?

[ironmonkey]

Look up other headline-level EDM acts like Deadmau5 or Tiesto..they don't have albums that chart very well either.

but at least they had a long history of success....I must just hate EDM so much as to not understand the huge draw....getting old sucks.

[Krentistthedentist]

So do all those other bands we discussed but you see it differently with some of them.

Have they played / sold out Aragon yet even?

Yes, they have.

[Driftwood]

Ok so VW did sell out Aragon. Why are they bigger than F&tM, Avetts or Passion Pit though?

[Krentistthedentist]

Obama wants Ezra Koenig's endorsement.
True story

[thombjorke.]

Ok so VW did sell out Aragon. Why are they bigger than F&tM, Avetts or Passion Pit though?

Two gold albums plus probably a third when their new one comes out.

[Driftwood]

Florence is easily going to get two gold albums.

Passion Pit sold out two Congress shows a couple of weeks apart. One the strength of one album (basically what Foster The People are now doing in Chicago).

I'm going to look up some "non-college" amphitheatre dates for Avett Brothers now.

[thombjorke.]

Yes, Florence is at a similar popularity level. But I think that Passion Pit and the Avetts aren't at the same level as her and VW.

[Krentistthedentist]

To me, VW was just "there" first and they are the face of the whole "indie goes mainstream movement," which is why they are the most likely to be at headliner status.
As for billing, I don't think it would be too much of a difference from last year for VW to be 5th this year and have an electronic headliner be 6th.
They could also be 6th, but there is no way they will be lower than that.

[xamnamxam]

To me, VW was just "there" first and they are the face of the whole "indie goes mainstream movement," which is why they are the most likely to be at headliner status.
As for billing, I don't think it would be too much of a difference from last year for VW to be 5th this year and have an electronic headliner be 6th.
They could also be 6th, but there is no way they will be lower than that.

All good points. I just would hope that Lolla wouldn't bring them back in that capacity until they have another album out.

[Driftwood]

FWIW Avett Brothers Aragon sold out date was also when Fleet Foxes were playing Chicago Theatre. You don't think there is a decent fan base overlap there?

[Driftwood]

I think MGMT was more the face of the movement but they stalled. Where they failed others will succeed.

[Krentistthedentist]

Tickets were pretty cheap IIRC

[Audiobully]

So lulzy.

Is it? They double billed Marcus Ampitheatre once. Did ya know that?

[Krentistthedentist]

Is it? They double billed Marcus Ampitheatre once. Did ya know that?


LOLL

Metallica opened for the Rolling Stones in San Francisco on the last tour.

maybe we should consider them for a sub

[WretchedSkye2113]

maybe if Sabbath were headlining.
or are we still considering Sabbath a sub?~

[Audiobully]

LOLL

Metallica opened for the Rolling Stones in San Francisco on the last tour.

maybe we should consider them for a sub


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zANvYB93u2g

[mgignac]

Metallica + The Cure + The Black Keys
Drake + Vampire Weekend + Swedish House Mafia

S vs. N

The Black Keys vs. Swedish House Mafia
The Cure vs. Drake
Metallica vs. Vampire Weekend

[Krentistthedentist]

Also I am pretty sure Petty headlined that show.
So fuck you.

[arbee]

I'd be fine with 4/6

[IAmScareMongering]

Not to stir the pot or anything, but didn't Kanye play 2 United Center shows in May of 2008? Hometown act yes, but not like it hasn't happened.

[Krentistthedentist]

Blocked.
Positivity goes a long way, guys

[IAmScareMongering]

It is Lollapalooza we're talking about here...

[thombjorke.]

Red Hot Chili Peppers * Blink-182 * Mumford & Sons
Tiesto * Swedish House Mafia * Skrillex


Well, this was the direction Perry said he wanted to take the festival, right?

[ironmonkey]

Red Hot Chili Peppers * Blink-182 * Mumford & Sons
Tiesto * Swedish House Mafia * Skrillex


Well, this was the direction Perry said he wanted to take the festival, right?

that would pretty much end my love affair with lolla.

[WampireVeekend]

Red Hot Chili Peppers * Blink-182 * Mumford & Sons
Tiesto * Swedish House Mafia * Skrillex


Well, this was the direction Perry said he wanted to take the festival, right?

Roflpalooza. or maybe Awfulpalooza

[mgignac]

I think it's the "direction he wants to take it" but it's not there yet. Also, I think keeping one EDM act on the top 6 is probably a good approach spec-wise, since I think they're probably still going to want "big" people at Perry's. If SHM plays a main stage, Tiesto might still play, he'd just be at Perry's. Same with vice versa.

[thombjorke.]

I think it's the "direction he wants to take it" but it's not there yet. Also, I think keeping one EDM act on the top 6 is probably a good approach spec-wise, since I think they're probably still going to want "big" people at Perry's. If SHM plays a main stage, Tiesto might still play, he'd just be at Perry's. Same with vice versa.

Perry did say he wanted half the fest to be electronic. Plus that lineup would sell out very fast.

BTW Tiesto at Perry's would be SO packed, not a real possibility.

[Driftwood]

Tickets were pretty cheap IIRC

Nah I don't think so. $35 maybe? More than Phoenix and Florence for sure.

[mgignac]

Perry did say he wanted half the fest to be electronic. Plus that lineup would sell out very fast.

BTW Tiesto at Perry's would be SO packed, not a real possibility.

If Lollapalooza were half the things that have come through Perry Farrell's head in the last 20 years it would have sank into the lake by now.

[mgignac]

For some reason Metallica/Cure/TBK doesn't sound like a very strong top 3...Starting to think Radiohead might be back in the running. Those tour dates look completely and totally false the more you look at them.

2 nights in a row at MSG, and then one night at several other ampitheaters? The only comparison I can think of is Arcade Fire, who sold out MSG and then played Charter One....but they did three nights in Chicago, not just one. The venue is also incorrectly listed as being in Chicago (I know it was decided this doesn't have that much worth), but the name of the venue is also spelled wrong. The whole thing makes about enough sense to be believable but not much logistically.

I'm not saying since the dates look fake that they're for sure headlining, but I'm not kicking them out of my lineup.

My end-all-be-all Lollapalooza 2012:

Radiohead + Metallica + Pearl Jam
The Black Keys + Drake + EDM

[nikolajz1]

My mom asked me if I knew was playing Lolla and I trolled her by saying Metallica and The Cure might. She was freaking out because those are her two favorite bands. lol

[IAmScareMongering]

2 nights in a row at MSG, and then one night at several other ampitheaters? The only comparison I can think of is Arcade Fire, who sold out MSG and then played Charter One....but they did three nights in Chicago, not just one. The venue is also incorrectly listed as being in Chicago (I know it was decided this doesn't have that much worth), but the name of the venue is also spelled wrong. The whole thing makes about enough sense to be believable but not much logistically.




Arcade Fire never played Charter One.

[mgignac]

Arcade Fire never played Charter One.

**UIC Pavillion, my bad.

[concertgoer]

Not to stir the pot or anything, but didn't Kanye play 2 United Center shows in May of 2008? Hometown act yes, but not like it hasn't happened.

From what I remember Kanye asked to be on the lineup after Radiohead, Rage and NIN were booked and initially he was 4th on the poster. Also a lot of people who attended Ye's UC show would never to come to Lolla. You can't really say that RCHP fans.

[IAmScareMongering]

We're still talking 46 thousand versus 18 thousand. And I don't see why RHCP couldn't be billed 3rd or 4th.

[Driftwood]

RHCP are not playing.

[WretchedSkye2113]

i'm really thinking Ye in some form or another is this year's pop/hiphop headliner, not Drake.
not because i want it to be that way- which i do- but yeezy is tour-active this year. has Drake announced any dates yet that suggest any fest appearances?

[IAmScareMongering]

RHCP are not playing.

Probably not, but I don't think it would be wise to rule them out, either.

[WretchedSkye2113]

The Cure * Metallica * Kanye West
The Black Keys * Bjork * Phish

and 3 straight nights of Radiohead aftershows at the Metro!

[snoopydoggy2002]

The Cure * Metallica * Kanye West
The Black Keys * Bjork * Phish

and 3 straight nights of Radiohead aftershows at the Metro!

Metallica vs Bjork
The Cure vs The Black Keys (Black Keys on south stage)
Kanye West vs Phish

?

[MadBird11]

Flip Bjork with Phish and ok.

[stelles75]

Definitely Bjork vs. The Cure. It's the Lollapalooza way.

[MadBird11]

I'd be ok with that too.

[Krentistthedentist]

i'm really thinking Ye in some form or another is this year's pop/hiphop headliner, not Drake.
not because i want it to be that way- which i do- but yeezy is tour-active this year. has Drake announced any dates yet that suggest any fest appearances?


Are you fucking kidding?
Drake is very active this year.
And Kanye has domestic dates this year?
News to me.

[concertgoer]

Lolla will never book Phish

[IAmScareMongering]

Are you fucking kidding?
Drake is very active this year.
And Kanye has domestic dates this year?
News to me.

His top 3 have a combined 0 domestic dates this year.

[WretchedSkye2113]

...jfc, you two.

[Krentistthedentist]

WELL JEEEZE
Us fans lounge folk are supposed to be smarter than the people who only post in the lineup subforum.
So say smart things from now on.

[WretchedSkye2113]

"ugh," "woooooooooooooosh," and another "jfc" won't do this justice.

[concertgoer]

His top 3 have a combined 0 domestic dates this year.

The Cure are playing MSG

[Krentistthedentist]

His top 3 have a combined 0 domestic dates this year.

Who are his top 3.
I didn't actually block you.

EDIT:

Correct, the Cure at the Garden 8/1.

[stelles75]

He gets them confused 'cause you know... they look alike.

[Miller]

I totally forgot they played before the FLips. That's how forgettable they were.

I was pretty much on the barrier for Lips and all the bands that played that stage that day. M83 was my set of the weekend.

[IAmScareMongering]

The Cure are playing MSG

heh

[Miller]

Peter Gabriel - Dave Matthews Band - Pixies
Stone Temple Pilots - Beck - Franz Ferdinand

nothing looks real this year, I give up

[ThePecanSandies]

If Kanye or Drake doesn't get booked as the mainstream pop act, I could see Rihanna on the bill as like a #3 headliner.

[drink]

how big is Air? too big to headline perry's or google+?

[mgignac]

Pearl Jam's fanclub just tweeted that there is a huge announcement coming for Sunday. The tweets are usually riddled with hints as to what the announcement is about, so people have deduced this much:

"A little birdy told us to be sure your memberships are up to date by this Sunday afternoon. Have a nice weekend, all. xo"

XO+Sunday afternoon = something to do with football, could mean an appearance at the Super Bowl though I doubt it
birdy told US= the announcement will pertain to the USA
memberships up to date= obviously it'll be a members only thing, and I initially thought maybe the announcement would be that PJ is playing Sunday of Lollapalooza...but I don't see being a fanclub member having anything to do with that.

It could be a fall US tour announcement starting in Indianapolis (where the Super Bowl is), so if Chicago's out of the picture for that it could be a clue.

Just thought I'd bring it up.

[Audiobully]

If PJ plays, would they for sure be #1? Or would they put like Metallica #1 even just to have another original #1?

[WampireVeekend]

probably number 2 and put someone original to chicagopalooza as #1

[mgignac]

PJ got billed second to Metallica at Roo 08 and I don't think either status has changed that much over the last 4 years. Metallica touring is a little rarer than PJ, plus the original headliner draw...I think PJ would be #2 for sure.

PJ would be billed second to Radiohead and Metallica, but I doubt anyone else we've talked about. Unless the unlikely Springsteen happened.

And I have no idea about The Cure.

[Broc1123]

PJ was billed 1st at Roo.

[nikkirkpatrick]

Pearl Jam's fanclub just tweeted that there is a huge announcement coming for Sunday. The tweets are usually riddled with hints as to what the announcement is about, so people have deduced this much:

"A little birdy told us to be sure your memberships are up to date by this Sunday afternoon. Have a nice weekend, all. xo"

XO+Sunday afternoon = something to do with football, could mean an appearance at the Super Bowl though I doubt it
birdy told US= the announcement will pertain to the USA
memberships up to date= obviously it'll be a members only thing, and I initially thought maybe the announcement would be that PJ is playing Sunday of Lollapalooza...but I don't see being a fanclub member having anything to do with that.

It could be a fall US tour announcement starting in Indianapolis (where the Super Bowl is), so if Chicago's out of the picture for that it could be a clue.

Just thought I'd bring it up.

This may be the biggest pile of shit i've ever read.

[mgignac]

This may be the biggest pile of shit i've ever read.

Just giving you whats going on on their boards.

Sincerest apologies.

[Broc1123]

This may be the biggest pile of shit i've ever read.

.

[thombjorke.]

PJ got billed second to Metallica at Roo 08 and I don't think either status has changed that much over the last 4 years. Metallica touring is a little rarer than PJ, plus the original headliner draw...I think PJ would be #2 for sure.

PJ would be billed second to Radiohead and Metallica, but I doubt anyone else we've talked about. Unless the unlikely Springsteen happened.

And I have no idea about The Cure.

Totally false, Pearl Jam was #1 at Bonnaroo and Metallica tours constantly.

[concertgoer]

Metallica, Pearl Jam and The Cure would be a very good top three, though I think we only get two of them.

[KevBlu42]

Totally false, Pearl Jam was #1 at Bonnaroo and Metallica tours constantly.

Metallica hasn't played Chicago since January 2009. Pearl Jam was in East Troy last summer.

[mgignac]

Totally false, Pearl Jam was #1 at Bonnaroo and Metallica tours constantly.

PJ tours just about every year, Metallica used to tour only every 2 or so years through the 00's...though I guess they have been on tour since 08 straight. And yeah memory served wrong about Roo, sorry.

Whatever, just throwing shit out there

[Krentistthedentist]

Pearl Jam's fanclub just tweeted that there is a huge announcement coming for Sunday. The tweets are usually riddled with hints as to what the announcement is about, so people have deduced this much:

"A little birdy told us to be sure your memberships are up to date by this Sunday afternoon. Have a nice weekend, all. xo"

XO+Sunday afternoon = something to do with football, could mean an appearance at the Super Bowl though I doubt it
birdy told US= the announcement will pertain to the USA
memberships up to date= obviously it'll be a members only thing, and I initially thought maybe the announcement would be that PJ is playing Sunday of Lollapalooza...but I don't see being a fanclub member having anything to do with that.

It could be a fall US tour announcement starting in Indianapolis (where the Super Bowl is), so if Chicago's out of the picture for that it could be a clue.

Just thought I'd bring it up.

Oh god, yes.
I am doing Indy Chicago and STL if it's a US tour

[mgignac]

Oh god, yes.
I am doing Indy Chicago and STL if it's a US tour

It's either going to be a US tour announcement or the release of some fan-club only special edition merch like an Alpine '11 bootleg boxset.

My + 10 club's 2 cents.

[KevBlu42]

Metallica, Pearl Jam and The Cure would be a very good top three, though I think we only get two of them.

My only worry is that C3 might think it skews a bit "old" for the demographic. It might work if they load up on "young" acts on the North end (Drake, TBK, VW, EDM).

[mgignac]

Well fuck, it looks like the announcement is an EV solo tour focusing on the south. Accidental Ticketmaster leak confirms him for a Jacksonville, FL date in May. Looks like he'll do a tour here before they head to Europe for the summer.

That sucks, I wanted PJ.

[Krentistthedentist]

Just checked to see if my membership is current.
Expires May 15th.
Woooo

[mgignac]

Just checked to see if my membership is current.
Expires May 15th.
Woooo

Ended up registering last night to make sure I would have access to whatever it was, looks like that's a bit wasted on this announcement. Hope they tour the US before next January so I can use some presale codes.

[concertgoer]

Well fuck, it looks like the announcement is an EV solo tour focusing on the south. Accidental Ticketmaster leak confirms him for a Jacksonville, FL date in May. Looks like he'll do a tour here before they head to Europe for the summer.

That sucks, I wanted PJ.

Hmmm how were the solo Eddie shows?

[arbee]

http://www.musicwithease.com/ukulele-2.gif

[mgignac]

Hmmm how were the solo Eddie shows?

Couldn't get tickets to Chicago last year (or was it 2010? Whatever), but friends said it was a really good time. Some uke, some acoustic, plenty of PJ covers and other covers as well.

Opening act was Glen Hansard and he played plenty with him- I'm a huge Glen fan so that was a big part of the draw for me. Worth seeing probably, but not for the $120 that tickets cost in my opinion.

[Krentistthedentist]

Hmmm how were the solo Eddie shows?

Fantastic. How well versed are you in Pearl Jam's discography? I would say his shows are a lot more geared towards people who really love Pearl Jam

Waving Palms
Can't Keep
(Pearl Jam song)
Sleeping By Myself
Without You
You're True
Light Today
Longing to Belong
Sometimes
(Pearl Jam song)
I Am Mine
(Pearl Jam song)
Long Nights
(with Glen Hansard)
Far Behind
Guaranteed
Rise
Blackbird
(The Beatles cover)
Just Breathe
(Pearl Jam song) (w/ string quartet)
The End
(Pearl Jam song) (w/ string quartet)
Elderly Woman Behind the Counter in a Small Town
(Pearl Jam song)
Unthought Known
(Pearl Jam song)
Arc
(Pearl Jam song)
Encore:
Parting Ways
(Pearl Jam song)
You've Got to Hide Your Love Away
(The Beatles cover)
Sleepless Nights
(The Everly Brothers cover) (with Glen Hansard) (also feat. Boudleaux Bryant, Felice Bryant)
Society
(Jerry Hannan cover) (with Glen Hansard)
Falling Slowly
(The Swell Season cover) (with Glen Hansard)
Immortality
(Pearl Jam song)
All The Way
(for Ron Santo)
Porch
(Pearl Jam song)
Encore 2:
Hard Sun
(Indio cover) (with Glen Hansard)
Encore 3:
Dream A Little Dream

[MadBird11]

Part of me really wanted to go to those shows, but the other part of me said $100 tickets were too much.

[thombjorke.]

Pearl Jam songs are not the same without Mike McCready.

[Krentistthedentist]

Part of me really wanted to go to those shows, but the other part of me said $100 tickets were too much.

I went for a grand total of $0.
Well worth it.

[Krentistthedentist]

Pearl Jam songs are not the same without Mike McCready.

Despite what anyone will tell you, Eddie and, to some extent, Stone are the stars of the band.
Although McCready and Ament have their moments.

EDIT: Is it weird that I still consider Matt Cameron to be Soundgarden's drummer?

[MadBird11]

I went for a grand total of $0.
Well worth it.

Good for you.

[thombjorke.]

Despite what anyone will tell you, Eddie and, to some extent, Stone are the stars of the band.
Although McCready and Ament have their moments.

EDIT: Is it weird that I still consider Matt Cameron to be Soundgarden's drummer?

I obviously understand the Eddie part, isn't Mike the one who does most of the guitar solos?

[Krentistthedentist]

I obviously understand the Eddie part, isn't Mike the one who does most of the guitar solos?

Yes.
And Stone wrote many of their earliest and, consequently, best songs.

[thombjorke.]

Well Mike is one of my favorite alt-rock guitarists so I give him and Eddie the most credit in my book, although I'm sure it wouldn't be the same without any of the others.

[KevBlu42]

EDIT: Is it weird that I still consider Matt Cameron to be Soundgarden's drummer?

He still is Soundgarden's drummer, no?

[Audiobully]

Yes.
And Stone wrote many of their earliest and, consequently, best songs.

Some which appeared in Mother Love Bone songs, like a piece of even flow.

[mgignac]

Yeah Stone is seriously where that band is at, but there's something about Mike and Jeff's stage energy that totally brings a PJ show together for me. I would still jump at the chance to see EV solo though.

[mgignac]

He still is Soundgarden's drummer, no?

Yeah but he was that first, before Pearl Jam, so at a time like this when Soundgarden is so active and exciting, it's a little odd to still see him behind the PJ kit.

Though in all honesty he's my favorite PJ drummer.

[thombjorke.]

So, is he saving his best drum tracks for the Soundgarden album or the Pearl Jam one???

[Krentistthedentist]

I personally think his style fits Soundgarden better.

[mgignac]

So, is he saving his best drum tracks for the Soundgarden album or the Pearl Jam one???

He's a fantastic songwriter/contributor- no such thing as "saving his best for one album".

There's some bonus footage of stuff he's written on the PJ20 DVD, I was a little surprised at how much involvement he has in writing processes.

[mgignac]

I personally think his style fits Soundgarden better.

Seeing him do "In My Tree" at Alpine last year blew me away, I think he works great in both capacities. His rhythm suits Soundgarden perfectly but his abilities make PJ tracks shine.

[thombjorke.]

Do all members in a band typically get paid the same amount? Because if so he must be loaded, not many people are in two festival headliner-status bands.

[Krentistthedentist]

I can't find his net worth anywhere on the internet, but Soundgarden has only been reunited for a year and Pearl Jam probably made more money in the 90s than SG did, so I'm guessing his net worth is slightly less than that of other Pearl Jam members.
It's probably less than Cornell's, too, since he probably has made a bunch of money from Audioslave and shit.
It is probably more than Kim Thayil's and Ben Shepherd's, however.
For reference:
Gossard- $65 million
Vedder- $80 million
Cornell- $60 million

Those are the only three I've found with a cursory google search

[thombjorke.]

Gotta be nice for the bank account to switch on and off between SG and PJ tours nowadays though.

[thombjorke.]

I can't find his net worth anywhere on the internet, but Soundgarden has only been reunited for a year and Pearl Jam probably made more money in the 90s than SG did, so I'm guessing his net worth is slightly less than that of other Pearl Jam members.
It's probably less than Cornell's, too, since he probably has made a bunch of money from Audioslave and shit.
It is probably more than Kim Thayil's and Ben Shepherd's, however.
For reference:
Gossard- $65 million
Vedder- $80 million
Cornell- $60 million

Those are the only three I've found with a cursory google search

How did Vedder get so much more than Gossard? Does he get a bigger share of the money?

That recent solo stuff couldn't have netted him $15 million.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

Personal donations from KtD.

[mgignac]

How did Vedder get so much more than Gossard? Does he get a bigger share of the money?

That recent solo stuff couldn't have netted him $15 million.

He's done several solo tours, guest appearances, interview spots for documentaries/shows, etc....he's more of a public figure in the music industry than Stone is, whether its "right" or not. Bigger name, bigger chance to grab some cash over the years. It's really less than a million more a year since PJ started, which isn't THAT hard to believe.

[KevBlu42]

How did Vedder get so much more than Gossard? Does he get a bigger share of the money?

That recent solo stuff couldn't have netted him $15 million.

He probably makes a decent piece of change for those film soundtracks/scores he does as well.

[Audiobully]

I personally think his style fits Soundgarden better.

couldn't agree more.

[johnd12751]

how great would it be if the killers did a hot fuss show?

[Miller]

They already did that at Lolla 05.

[carligula]

Are they actually playing the album live as if it's a "classic" album? That's a bit much...

[thombjorke.]

Maybe Radiohead will play a The Bends/OK Computer double set this year.

[Miller]

Maybe bands will just play sets. That'd be neat.

Is this Hot Fuss thing actually happening somewhere?

[Thisismyname]

You mean besides all their normal tour dates where they still play like half the album?

No.

[Miller]

You mean besides all their normal tour dates where they still play like half the album?

Exactly.

[mgignac]

You know this thread has come a long way when 4/6 of the initial post are still being seriously considered.

[IAmScareMongering]

No one in this thread "seriously" knows who is going to headline.

[mgignac]

That's why I said "considered".

[MadBird11]

I still don't get "it".
.

[ironmonkey]

I can't find his net worth anywhere on the internet, but Soundgarden has only been reunited for a year and Pearl Jam probably made more money in the 90s than SG did, so I'm guessing his net worth is slightly less than that of other Pearl Jam members.
It's probably less than Cornell's, too, since he probably has made a bunch of money from Audioslave and shit.
It is probably more than Kim Thayil's and Ben Shepherd's, however.
For reference:
Gossard- $65 million
Vedder- $80 million
Cornell- $60 million

Those are the only three I've found with a cursory google search

Most times publishing rights are split between who writes the music and who writes the lyrics....seeing that vedder writes almost 100% of the lyrics and a good portion of the music I can see how he'd have more than the other members based on that alone.

[Nile19]

Overall, I think this year is way more interesting at this point because we know so little, we don't have one leaked or obvious headliner, and all my predictions could be wrong

[mgignac]

Jesus fucking christ this board needs to lighten up.

[Krentistthedentist]

i agree.
Terrible board.

[MadBird11]

Fuck this place, seriously.

[Audiobully]

Overall, I think this year is way more interesting at this point because we know so little, we don't have one leaked or obvious headliner, and all my predictions could be wrong

We know Metallica and Justice are playing, amirite?

[Nile19]

We know Metallica and Justice are playing, amirite?

Those are the only two acts I feel confident about anymore

[Audiobully]

Well, Drake as well.

[symbionese]

No one in this thread "seriously" knows who is going to headline.

ahem.

[Audiobully]

Yeah, you do. So speak up, dude.

Let me help: Metallica * (Help) * (Help)
Drake * (Help) * Justice

[Broc1123]

Those are the only two acts I feel confident about anymore

I heard Justice isn't playing.

[wiscostraightup]

how likely would a Wilco return be?
also wtt, serious possibility? or are we just assuming that there's no way c3 would do something that fucking awesome.

[symbionese]

careful what you ask for... if mommy and daddy hear about wtt, they're never going to let you off the farm.

[wiscostraightup]

oh yes, Madison Wisconsin. famous for its sprawling farmland and rubes. if that was a jab at me being from wisconsin. or maybe I'm just fucking stupid. probably that.

[symbionese]

you're not from madison.

[wiscostraightup]

you're right, I'm from evansville, but now i live in madison. but i really just want to know about wtt and wilco. :(

[symbionese]

have you ever slept with a black man?

[Caseysitsallgood]

could be wrong

.

[Krentistthedentist]

you're not from madison.

I was about to get all mad at you for saying bad things about madison but then i saw this so you are off the hook this time, buddy.

[wiscostraightup]

have you ever slept with a black man?

You're fun! but no. I'm from wisconsin. there are no black people. only cows... and goats.
and football teams that choke.=(

[symbionese]

you're not from madison either.

[symbionese]

You're fun! but no. I'm from wisconsin. there are no black people. only cows... and goats.
and football teams that choke.=(

so you like black cock -- but just don't have access?

[wiscostraightup]

you're not from madison either.

news to me?
but ight. i can tell when I'm not wanted. I'll just go back to lurking and hope someone brings up wtt and or wilco..

[wiscostraightup]

so you like black cock -- but just don't have access?

mhmm.
go big or go home.

[symbionese]

have you meant krentist?

[wiscostraightup]

have you meant krentist?

no, but does he like stocky white boys who know their way around a tractor?
if yes, introduce plz.

[WretchedSkye2113]

no, but does he like stocky white boys who know their way around a tractor?


i can confirm that he, in fact, loves at least one.

[wiscostraightup]

yess.

[MadBird11]

i can confirm that he, in fact, loves at least one.

Early nomination for best board couple.

[Krentistthedentist]

LOL @ lx knowing his way around a tractor.

[Krentistthedentist]

you're not from madison either.

There are two types of people in this world
Black people
and people from madison. I have to be one or the other.

[Krentistthedentist]

And LX is not stocky anymore. He's like a totally different person. Well, he's the same person, there just aren't two of him anymore.

[WretchedSkye2113]

...i was referring to me, damnit.

[Krentistthedentist]

I think of stocky as fat generally.
My b

[wiscostraightup]

There are two types of people in this world
Black people
and people from madison. I have to be one or the other.

tell that to park street..

[Krentistthedentist]

That's racist.

[wiscostraightup]

That's fact.

[nikolajz1]

My most wanted 3 headliners (realistic) this year:
Kanye
Adele
The Killers

This to close the South Field one night would be magnificant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaEhQ51BvSw

[Thisismyname]

Sorry, someone already did lampshade lights in that venue and it was much better.

Really want to see a show there someday though.

[nikolajz1]

I saw a classical concert at RAH. It was amazing. The sound is so great and the venue is so beautiful.

[Thisismyname]

To correct my initial post, turns out I was mistaken. Fever Ray opened for Royksopp at the Royal Festival Hall, not the Royal Albert Hall. How could I have possibly gotten those confused?

[KevBlu42]

My most wanted 3 headliners (realistic) this year:
Kanye
Adele
The Killers

This to close the South Field one night would be magnificant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaEhQ51BvSw

I had no idea that 90% of an Adele crowd was painfully awkwardly dancing soccer moms. We don't need that at Lolla.

[carligula]

You must have had SOME idea...

[joelmanfu]

Florence & The Machine announced a spring tour in late April, she is playing Milwaukee, Minneapolis, and St. Louis, but no Chicago date.

[jcfrank2]

Florence & The Machine announced a spring tour in late April, she is playing Milwaukee, Minneapolis, and St. Louis, but no Chicago date.

I would hope they're not a a headliner - Just an over-priced sub.

[nikkirkpatrick]

maybe they're playing pitchfork.

[IAmScareMongering]

They're pretty borderline, could probably be in the sixth spot.

[Krentistthedentist]

They're pretty borderline, could probably be in the sixth spot.

I am calling 7-8

[Thisismyname]

I am calling 7-8

Agreed. South sub.

For the Cure.

!!!

[Broc1123]

Flo subbing for the Cure would fucking amazing.

I don't think she will headline.

[drink]

florence's legs = #6 headliner.

[symbionese]

even with chloroform and a hacksaw -- never going to happen.

[WretchedSkye2113]

For the Cure.



just a friendly reminder to you of what it felt like last year when everyone was so certain that The Cure were headlining and then Enimem, Foo Fighters, Coldplay, and Muse occupied the top line.

[dr. ace]

I had no idea that 90% of an Adele crowd was painfully awkwardly dancing soccer moms.

so was lady gaga's crowd

[Broc1123]

just a friendly reminder to you of what it felt like last year when everyone was so certain that The Cure were headlining and then Enimem, Foo Fighters, Coldplay, and Muse occupied the top line.

I don't think anyone was "certain". But I thought it was possible. Coldplay was the pleasant surprise instead.

This year, with the MSG date on 8/1 according to symb, they seem even likelier.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

I had no idea that 90% of an Adele crowd was painfully awkwardly dancing soccer moms. We don't need that at Lolla.

what is niko seeing here that we're all missing???

[wiscostraightup]

what is niko seeing here that we're all missing???

Lampshades?

[nikolajz1]

so was lady gaga's crowd

hot gays

[nikolajz1]

what is niko seeing here that we're all missing???

Looks more exciting than a Bjork or Cure show

[JML]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdPiX0rPEbw&feature=related

I'll take this over that Adele performance anyday

[Nile19]

^ agreee

[WretchedSkye2113]

bjork would easily be my most anticipated lolla headliner from the 5 years i've gone if it ever happened (it wont).

[Nile19]

bjork would easily be my most anticipated lolla headliner from the 5 years i've gone if it ever happened (it wont).

Unless you are going to Chile

[Nile19]

Random note: Arctic Monkeys are now billed no.2 above Janes on Lolla Brazil lineup

[WretchedSkye2113]

Random note: Arctic Monkeys are now billed no.2 above Janes on Lolla Brazil lineup

they're billed top line everywhere in europe. surprised it's taken them so long to rise up to headliners in N/S America.



Unless you are going to Chile

i dont speak spanish.

[Nile19]

Another random note: RHCP has changed the "Chicago" date on their tour page to "Rosemont", so they are getting around the rule, so RHCP is headlining Lolla again. Good night.

[danzip53]

Ugh

[concertgoer]

I still don't think they are playing.

[nikolajz1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdPiX0rPEbw&feature=related

I'll take this over that Adele performance anyday

Such an annoying pretentious voice. Shrill and awful...

[Krentistthedentist]

lol

[nikolajz1]

I would see Justin Bieber or LMFAO over that shit.

Ohhhhh it i avant-garde there for I'll pretend to love it so I seem smart and cultured

[thombjorke.]

I would see Justin Bieber or LMFAO over that shit.

Ohhhhh it i avant-garde there for I'll pretend to love it so I seem smart and cultured

make sure to watch for trucks when you cross the street, you have it coming

[nikolajz1]

make sure to watch for trucks when you cross the street, you have it coming

No this board does for liking pretentious music and bashing anyone who doesnt like that boring shit.

[Krentistthedentist]

make sure to watch for trucks when you cross the street, you have it coming

Don't even pay attention to him.
He's just going out of his way to be awful.

He is book smart, but he is also socially inept and has horrible taste in everything else but just assumes his academic intellect can be applied to literally everything else.
It's a pretty tired shtick.

[thombjorke.]

Don't even pay attention to him.
He's just going out of his way to be awful.

He is book smart, but socially inept and has horrible taste in everything else but just assumes his academic intellect can be applied to literally everything else.
It's a pretty tired shtick.

interesting, thank you for clarifying

[nikolajz1]

Don't even pay attention to him.
He's just going out of his way to be awful.

He is book smart, but he is also socially inept and has horrible taste in everything else but just assumes his academic intellect can be applied to literally everything else.
It's a pretty tired shtick.

lol @ you talking about people being socially inept.

[WretchedSkye2113]

No this board does for liking pretentious music and bashing anyone who doesnt like that boring shit.

and bjork is the example you're gonna go with to support this argument?

[Krentistthedentist]

and bjork is the example you're gonna go with to support this argument?

Animal Collective would have been a much better example, but once again, nik knows nothing about music.

[nikolajz1]

I would say that my social skills are fine.

lol

[Krentistthedentist]

Wretched. Defend me.

[MadBird11]

I would see Justin Bieber or LMFAO over that shit.

Ohhhhh it i avant-garde there for I'll pretend to love it so I seem smart and cultured

I don't like Bjork either but this is a stupid statement.

[thombjorke.]

I don't like Bjork either but this is a stupid statement.

What would you expect from someone whose dream #1 headliner is Adele?

[MadBird11]

What would you expect from someone whose dream #1 headliner is Adele?

There's a fine line between trolling and saying something like that.

Also, you don't get to talk shit about Nik, so shut up.

[Krentistthedentist]

Also, you don't get to talk shit about Nik, so shut up.

It's not like he's attacking some revered board treasure.
I am pretty sure that by opening an account you earn the right to call nik a moron.

[concertgoer]

Yeah I really don't that people on the board are pretending to like Bjork to be "avant-garde". Besides she has been around for over 20 years and is pretty mainstream at this point.

[MadBird11]

I still don't think it's right for n00bs to make fun of regulars. There used to be some standard on this board.

[thombjorke.]

There's a fine line between trolling and saying something like that.

Also, you don't get to talk shit about Nik, so shut up.

Why not? He was pretty much begging me to.

[Krentistthedentist]

I still don't think it's right for n00bs to make fun of regulars. There used to be some standard on this board.

Fuck standards.

[thombjorke.]

krentist + wretched >>>>> madbird + nik

[Miller]

I still don't think it's right for n00bs to make fun of regulars. There used to be some standard on this board.

...Not really. My first post ever was making fun of a regular in the Miley thread, and no one gave me shit for it. (The shit I earned came a couple months later when I stopped making good posts.)

[WampireVeekend]

not to go off topic (aka back on topic) but would Springsteen - Metallica - RHCP be too old of a top 3?

Im really thinking the top 3/4 will be some combo of Bruce/Metallica/RHCP/The Cure/TBK

[Krentistthedentist]

Have we discussed how I was totally lying about Springsteen yet?

[JML]

I thought the Austin 3/16 thing made it pretty obvious.

[Krentistthedentist]

Also, I want to publicly apologize for being just a *bit* too hard on nik.
I still think he's a moron.

[Krentistthedentist]

I thought the Austin 3/16 thing made it pretty obvious.

That's the only date I see as plausible, come to think of it.

[Broc1123]

Have we discussed how I was totally lying about Springsteen yet?

No we never did, and yeah I'm guessing he will play at SXSW.

[MadBird11]

krentist + wretched >>>>> madbird + nik

derp

[carligula]

IMO, Bruce doesn't make sense at Lolla. I can't think of a past single headliner like him.

[WretchedSkye2113]

Wretched. Defend me.

srybb i was pumping iron. who hurt you?