It Starts Now: Volume Four - 2012 Lollapalooza Headliner Speculation

[IAmScareMongering]

So when did it change?

It's evolved over the past 4 years into a completely different fest.

[concertgoer]

It's evolved over the past 4 years into a completely different fest.

Not at all. Indie has just gotten bigger.

[MadBird11]

Yeah, Pitchfork just has more people in it basically.

Lolla has evolved.

[Krentistthedentist]

You guys can stop acting like the fest isn't becoming poppier any time now.
And I'm not saying that as a slight on the festival (I thought that 2010 ,at least, had a completely appropriate mixture of pop and things that aren't pop and could have been a great template for the festival going forward), just as a matter of fact. I'm sure there are a number of people who attended in 2005 that want nothing to do with the fest anymore because it is so different.

[Driftwood]

It's evolved over the past 4 years into a completely different fest.

I wouldn't bat an eye over most of the 2007 acts playing in 2012.

[concertgoer]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitchfork_Music_Festival#2007_Lineups

IASM how is that dramatically different than the current lineups?

[Krentistthedentist]

I wouldn't bat an eye over most of the 2007 acts playing in 2012.

I think we've had this exact discussion before, and the consensus then was that any given one of those acts could easily be on the lineup. Together, however...

[IAmScareMongering]

Not at all. Indie has just gotten bigger.

There's no way Pitchfork will ever book headliners like Yoko Ono and Sonic Youth ever again.

[Driftwood]

I'm sure there are a number of people who attended in 2005 that want nothing to do with the fest anymore because it is so different.

I bet they hate that it is more crowded. Headliners are bigger. Gaga probably would never have been booked had she not been a Lolla alum. Is there more pop throughout the line-up (smaller pop music type acts)? Seems like you are judging fests based on 5 bands again.

[Driftwood]

There's no way Pitchfork will ever book headliners like Yoko Ono and Sonic Youth ever again.

They would absolutely book Sonic Youth again (if the opportunity arises). They just wouldn't be big enough to headline now.

Again it seems like you are basing the fest off its headliners.

[concertgoer]

You are crazy of course Pitchfork would book Sonic Youth again if they were available. You do realize that Thurston Moore played the festival last year right?

[Krentistthedentist]

I bet they hate that it is more crowded. Headliners are bigger. Gaga probably would never have been booked had she not been a Lolla alum. Is there more pop throughout the line-up (smaller pop music type acts)? Seems like you are judging fests based on 5 bands again.

From a business perspective, judging the fest based on (basically) 5 bands is not all that inappropriate since the headliners account for so much revenue. I am sure 80%+ of people who buy single day tickets do so based on who that evening's headliner is. And the point is, 2005 was not geared towards Eminem fans or Coldplay fans or deadmau5 fans or Muse fan or probably even Foo Fighters fans.

[Audiobully]

The fest hasn't changed at all since moving to Grant Park. Each and every year, they fill out a bill from available touring acts sprinkled with acts that aren't actively touring but are available for the right price. That is all.

EDIT: Then of the acts available at the right price, they pick on affordability plus attractiveness to the attendees.

[IAmScareMongering]

They would absolutely book Sonic Youth again (if the opportunity arises). They just wouldn't be big enough to headline now.

Again it seems like you are basing the fest off its headliners.

Yes, because no one ever judges a fest based on its headliners...

[concertgoer]

From a business perspective, judging the fest based on (basically) 5 bands is not all that inappropriate since the headliners account for so much revenue. I am sure 80%+ of people who buy single day tickets do so based on who that evening's headliner is. And the point is, 2005 was not geared towards Eminem fans or Coldplay fans or deadmau5 fans or Muse fan or probably even Foo Fighters fans.

You do realize that Weezer was the main headliner in 2005 right?

[Driftwood]

I think we've had this exact discussion before, and the consensus then was that any given one of those acts could easily be on the lineup. Together, however...

Friday: GZA (performing Liquid Swords), Slint (performing Spiderland), Sonic Youth (performing Daydream Nation)

Saturday (Mainstages): Battles, Califone, Cat Power and Dirty Delta Blues Band), Clipse, Grizzly Bear, Iron & Wine, Mastodon, Yoko Ono, The Twilight Sad, Voxtrot

Saturday (Tent): Beach House, Girl Talk, Dan Deacon, Fujiya & Miyagi, Ken Vandermark's Powerhouse Sound, Oxford Collapse, Professor Murder, William Parker Quartet

Sunday (Mainstages): De La Soul, Deerhunter, Junior Boys, Jamie Lidell, Stephen Malkmus, Menomena, The New Pornographers, of Montreal, The Ponys, The Sea and Cake

Sunday (Tent): Brightblack Morning Light, Cadence Weapon, The Cool Kids, Craig Taborn's Junk Magic, The Field, Fred Lonberg-Holm's Lightbox Orchestra, Klaxons, Nomo

They got rid of the classic albums but 3/4 of this line-up together at Pitchfork 2012 with a couple of bigger names wouldn't be that unbelievable.

[concertgoer]

The fest hasn't changed at all since moving to Grant Park. Each and every year, they fill out a bill from available touring acts sprinkled with acts that aren't actively touring but are available for the right price. That is all.

EDIT: Then of the acts available at the right price, they pick on affordability plus attractiveness to the attendees.

All of this

[Krentistthedentist]

Friday: GZA (performing Liquid Swords), Slint (performing Spiderland), Sonic Youth (performing Daydream Nation)

Saturday (Mainstages): Battles, Califone, Cat Power and Dirty Delta Blues Band), Clipse, Grizzly Bear, Iron & Wine, Mastodon, Yoko Ono, The Twilight Sad, Voxtrot

Saturday (Tent): Beach House, Girl Talk, Dan Deacon, Fujiya & Miyagi, Ken Vandermark's Powerhouse Sound, Oxford Collapse, Professor Murder, William Parker Quartet

Sunday (Mainstages): De La Soul, Deerhunter, Junior Boys, Jamie Lidell, Stephen Malkmus, Menomena, The New Pornographers, of Montreal, The Ponys, The Sea and Cake

Sunday (Tent): Brightblack Morning Light, Cadence Weapon, The Cool Kids, Craig Taborn's Junk Magic, The Field, Fred Lonberg-Holm's Lightbox Orchestra, Klaxons, Nomo

They got rid of the classic albums but 3/4 of this line-up together at Pitchfork 2012 with a couple of bigger names wouldn't be that unbelievable.

I never made the argument that pitchfork was different.
I was talking about Lollapalooza

[Krentistthedentist]

All of this

Yes, concertgoer, that is correct.
The fest does not book bands who are unavailable to play.
Thank you, Audiobully, for getting to the bottom of that mystery

[Driftwood]

Yes, because no one ever judges a fest based on its headliners...

The whole argument is fest getting bigger versus fest changing. Anyone on team fest getting bigger is obviously going to agree that the headliners are going to get bigger. Unless you are arguing that a fest getting bigger forces it to innately change?

[Driftwood]

OMG band that headlined before can't headline now! Fest has totally changed!

[Krentistthedentist]

I am on team "pitchfork is bigger" but i am also on team "lollapalooza is different"
guess i am an outkast

[nikolajz1]

I still dont see how the fest is getting any bigger or is changing. Subs are still the same and have arguably gotten smaller.

Eminem Foos Coldplay and Muse is on the same level as Radiohead, RATM, Kanye, NIN and Soundgarden, Green Day, Gaga, Arcade Fire.

[MadBird11]

I am on team "pitchfork is bigger" but i am also on team "lollapalooza is different"
guess i am an outkast

hush that fuss

[IAmScareMongering]

The whole argument is fest getting bigger versus fest changing. Anyone on team fest getting bigger is obviously going to agree that the headliners are going to get bigger. Unless you are arguing that a fest getting bigger forces it to innately change?

They absolutely have changed, booking safer headliners with a broader mainstream appeal. Like it or not a fest's headliner selections are a major indication of what the fest is about.

[concertgoer]

I am on team "pitchfork is bigger" but i am also on team "lollapalooza is different"
guess i am an outkast

http://mtv.mtvnimages.com/uri/mgid:uma:artist:mtv.com:776?width=281&height=211

[Krentistthedentist]

I mean, Bonnaroo is CLEARLY a different festival than it was in 2005, but most of those bands could easily still play the fest. It is possible for a fest go get bigger, different, and yet still have room for bands that have played before.

Maybe I should have been more specific and said Lollapalooza is more "inclusive" now.

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JAM BANDS LIKE WSP AND UMPHREY'S
Lollapalooza would absolutely not book any of these bands anymore.

[concertgoer]

They absolutely have changed, booking safer headliners with a broader mainstream appeal.

You don't get it. Indie has just gotten bigger. That is the only thing that has changed.

[nikolajz1]

You don't get it. Indie has just gotten bigger. That is the only thing that has changed.

Yup. I agree with this.

[Krentistthedentist]

hush that fuss

Oh yeah, you're on my team.
Kool

[IAmScareMongering]

You don't get it. Indie has just gotten bigger. That is the only thing that has changed.

Are Yoko Ono and Sonic Youth indie acts? And if so, would Pitchfork book them to headline again?

[Driftwood]

They absolutely have changed, booking safer headliners with a broader mainstream appeal. Like it or not a fest's headliner selections are a major indication of what the fest is about.

Indie has gotten more mainstream. They've gotten headliners that would have been fine playing the fest earlier in the day (when they were earlier in their career trajectories) and would have fit the aesthetic of the fest perfectly.

[Driftwood]

Think about anyone calling Animal Collective "mainstream" a few years ago.

[IAmScareMongering]

Indie has gotten more mainstream. They've gotten headliners that would have been fine playing the fest earlier in the day (when they were earlier in their career trajectories) and would have fit the aesthetic of the fest perfectly.

Yoko Ono and Sonic Youth is a completely different aesthetic than who headlined in 2011.

[concertgoer]

Regarding Lolla
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Lollapalooza_lineups_by_year#2005

I could see every single one of those acts besides WSP playing again.

[Krentistthedentist]

http://lineup.lollapalooza.com/past/2007

Going through this time capsule, the last time they gave a jam band a fairly prominent place on the lineup was 2006.

[Driftwood]

Are Yoko Ono and Sonic Youth indie acts? And if so, would Pitchfork book them to headline again?

Was Sonic Youth's debut released on an indie label?

[concertgoer]

Yoko Ono and Sonic Youth is a completely different aesthetic than who headlined in 2011.

How is Sonic Youth that different? It's not like they are some obscure act that no one knows

[Driftwood]

Yoko Ono and Sonic Youth is a completely different aesthetic than who headlined in 2011.

What about Pavement then?

[Krentistthedentist]

i GUESS you could make the point that lollapalooza is becoming more of an electronic festival and for some inexplicable reason, fests like NCMF and Electric Forest have proven that fans of jam bands and fans of dubstep are like the same people.

if they do book a jam band, it will not be some dinosaur band like Furthur.
Sorry

[IAmScareMongering]

Was Sonic Youth's debut released on an indie label?

Yes, because releasing a debut record on an indie label makes that act an indie act.

[Driftwood]

So what's your arbitrary definition then?

[IAmScareMongering]

Got 3 things to address there, I'll do so after this half is over.

[concertgoer]

i GUESS you could make the point that lollapalooza is becoming more of an electronic festival and for some inexplicable reason, fests like NCMF and Electric Forest have proven that fans of jam bands and fans of dubstep are like the same people.

if they do book a jam band, it will not be some dinosaur band like Furthur.
Sorry

Worst genres and worst fans amirite?

[Krentistthedentist]

i GUESS you could make the point that lollapalooza is becoming more of an electronic festival and for some inexplicable reason, fests like NCMF and Electric Forest have proven that fans of jam bands and fans of dubstep are like the same people.

if they do book a jam band, it will not be some dinosaur band like Furthur.
Sorry

Can someone please endorse this as a reasonable compromise to this awful discussion so I can go away?

[Krentistthedentist]

Worst genres and worst fans amirite?

jam bands that aren't phish or like the Allman Brothers are mostly pretty bad, yeah

[Driftwood]

Can someone please endorse this as a reasonable compromise to this awful discussion so I can go away?

I mean it seems to me like you are saying things have changed on the fringes. I think those disagreeing with you can accept that - we just don't believe that means the fest as a whole has changed.

[Krentistthedentist]

Going through that lineup archive makes me wish they'd bring Green Day back.

[concertgoer]

Going through that lineup archive makes me wish they'd bring Green Day back.

That was such a great set
Best band

[nikolajz1]

That was such a great set
Best band

Phoenix was better. Im sure of it.

[Thisismyname]

http://lineup.lollapalooza.com/past/2007

Going through this time capsule, the last time they gave a jam band a fairly prominent place on the lineup was 2006.

Unrelated question for anyone, how was that Patti Smith set?

[concertgoer]

Phoenix was better. Im sure of it.

And you would be wrong.

[nikolajz1]

And you would be wrong.

As much as I love Green Day, their live schtick seems like it would get old after 3 hours.

[Krentistthedentist]

Concertgoat and I saw both bands that weekend, and yeah, wrong

[Driftwood]

Remember when Sonic Youth was booked to play the ultra-hip ACL festival?

[Driftwood]

Oh hey they played Lolla 2006 too.

[concertgoer]

lulz

[Krentistthedentist]

ACL is cooler than Lollapalooza because they had better headliners and TV on the Radio and Cut Copy and Lolbow

[Driftwood]

Suggest some metal for timely bookings.

Should Childish Gambino be on there?

[concertgoer]

Yeah I would include Gambino.

[Krentistthedentist]

Suggest some metal for timely bookings.

Should Childish Gambino be on there?

What's the point?
They don't book metal.

I could see them maybe booking Mastodon but that would be about as far into the realm of metal they'd go.

[Audiobully]

Yes, concertgoer, that is correct.
The fest does not book bands who are unavailable to play.
Thank you, Audiobully, for getting to the bottom of that mystery

Well, people keep acting like fucking Outkast or David Bowie could surprise them any given year. If they're not available, they're not fucking available. So stop speculating, even in the speculation thread. Save that shit for the Lolla facebook page.

[Audiobully]

What's the point?
They don't book metal.

I could see them maybe booking Mastodon but that would be about as far into the realm of metal they'd go.

Mastodon isn't from Japan and that's the only metal Lolla will ever book until Metallica is #1 this year.

[Krentistthedentist]

New prediction

Metallica/Black Sabbath * Jay Z/Jay-Z & Kanye/Kanye/Lil Wayne/Drake * The Killers/The Black Keys
Beck/Bjork/The Cure * Vampire Weekend/Passion Pit/Mumford and Sons * MIA/Nicki/Rihanna

[Broc1123]

No way do the Killers play again. ACL though.

[Krentistthedentist]

Yeah but it's still the same fest and the Killers are inddiieee rock and rollll meaning they'd be purrfect for lollapalooza since it's still an indie fest

Also i edited my prediction to just be BANDS THAT WILL PLAY POSSIBLY TO FILL CERTAIN QUOTAS THAT I'VE MADE UP.

[Driftwood]

New prediction

Metallica/Black Sabbath * Jay Z/Jay-Z & Kanye/Kanye/Lil Wayne/Drake * The Killers/The Black Keys
Beck/Bjork/The Cure * Vampire Weekend/Passion Pit/Mumford and Sons * MIA/Nicki/Rihanna

3 of those 8 would be a successful festival for me (in terms of headliners). I say 30% chance that happens. Also when if it does, two of them will conflict.

[Broc1123]

You're quota slots could either go really well or really bad.

[Krentistthedentist]

my ideal would be

Black Sabbath * The Throne * The Black Keys
Beck * Vampire Weekend * MIA

[concertgoer]

5/6 so yeah that would work

[Krentistthedentist]

Who is the bad one?
MIA?

[concertgoer]

Yep

[Krentistthedentist]

I could see Titty Perry headlining

[Nile19]

I could see Titty Perry headlining

I would probably throw up a little bit

[acousticgab]

It would certainly be LOL-lapalooza.

[SecondSet]

New prediction

Metallica/Black Sabbath * Jay Z/Jay-Z & Kanye/Kanye/Lil Wayne/Drake * The Killers/The Black Keys
Beck/Bjork/The Cure * Vampire Weekend/Passion Pit/Mumford and Sons * MIA/Nicki/Rihanna

I think this is a good start, but I would remove the following possibilities:
Black Sabbath - too old and the tour may not even happen
The Black Keys - playing multiple in-radius arena shows including the United Center this Spring
Drake - availability indicates he is not on the bill
Nicki - same
Passion Pit - not headliner material
(maybe) Vampire Weekend - they'll 2nd-line headline at some point, but I doubt it will happen until they release a new record, which I don't expect this Summer

I wouldn't put Beck in the same category as Bjork and The Cure. Mumford could go in either of those categories.

And I wouldn't separate MIA and Rihanna from the male MC's. The former is a good call, assuming her album is out in time.

I would add the following possibilities, not necessarily in order of probability: Radiohead, Tool (yes I know APC played last year), blink-182, Phish, Swedish House Mafia, Skrillex, Justice, the Avett Brothers, the Stone Roses, Blur.

[MadBird11]

tl;dr

[SecondSet]

tl;dr

Avatar/attitude; not taken the least bit seriously

[Krentistthedentist]

Blur will not play the festival unless it is a one-off.
Otherwise, their price tag would not be proportional to their draw.
And IDK if the fest is cool enough to book more than one of Beck/Bjork/Cure

[SecondSet]

Blur will not play the festival unless it is a one-off.

That's exactly what I had in mind.

[wiscostraightup]

Avatar/attitude; not taken the least bit seriously

I'm sure he's really cut up about it..

[SecondSet]

I'm sure he's really cut up about it..

Thanks for the input, safety school.

[wiscostraightup]

Thanks for the input, safety school.

First of all, calling uw a safety school is fucking stupid. Second of all you should learn to read because I also have said multiple times I'm not in college yet. But you're the guy who calls lolla alternative, so I don't expect much.

[wiscostraightup]

I think this is a good start, but I would remove the following possibilities:
Black Sabbath - too old and the tour may not even happen
The Black Keys - playing multiple in-radius arena shows including the United Center this Spring
Drake - availability indicates he is not on the bill
Nicki - same
Passion Pit - not headliner material
(maybe) Vampire Weekend - they'll 2nd-line headline at some point, but I doubt it will happen until they release a new record, which I don't expect this Summer

I wouldn't put Beck in the same category as Bjork and The Cure. Mumford could go in either of those categories.

And I wouldn't separate MIA and Rihanna from the male MC's. The former is a good call, assuming her album is out in time.

I would add the following possibilities, not necessarily in order of probability: Radiohead, Tool (yes I know APC played last year), blink-182, Phish, Swedish House Mafia, Skrillex, Justice, the Avett Brothers, the Stone Roses, Blur.

Thanks for the wonderful analysis of the last 5 pages. Real insightful to see every conversation this thread has ever had in one post.

[Krentistthedentist]

JTFC

[wiscostraightup]

?

[SecondSet]

First of all, calling uw a safety school is fucking stupid.

No it's simply reality. UW was, literally, my safety school (along with UM). That, along with the fact that I'm twice your age, should indicate to you that I might be a little smarter than you.

[Nile19]

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd417/thesolanum/gifs/Back_away_slowly.gif

[wiscostraightup]

Well somebody who was smart enough to have uw as a safety school should have some better understanding of festivals before they decide to post 50 times in a day. But alas, you're older than me so I'm insta wrong.

[Krentistthedentist]

No it's simply reality. UW was, literally, my safety school (along with UM). That, along with the fact that I'm twice your age, should indicate to you that I might be a little smarter than you.

You are also making an ass of yourself in an argument with someone half your age on the internet, so...

[SecondSet]

You are also making an ass of yourself in an argument with someone half your age on the internet, so...

I'm sharing the perspective of someone who has connections to people who are often familiar in advance with bookings at this and other major festivals.

Feel free to call it what you will.

[MadBird11]

I want to be Symb.

.

[concertgoer]

Oh looks guys we have another insider!

[SecondSet]

I am not an insider. But I know a few.

[Thisismyname]

Alright Carl, I know we're supposed to be loving and supportive to new posters, but you can turn a blind eye here right?

[Driftwood]

Definitely a buzz alt.

[concertgoer]

Definitely a buzz alt.

Seems about right

[MadBird11]

Everyone's an alt.

[wiscostraightup]

I am not an insider. But I know a few.

Oh do tell!

[nikkirkpatrick]

thissy is right. some things should not be tolerated. like possibly anti-choice cubanism.

[Audiobully]

Im a Krentist alt before it was cool to be one. So fuck all ya'll and Pearl Jam kicks all ur dicks.

[wiscostraightup]

thissy is right. some things should not be tolerated. like possibly anti-choice cubanism.

Hey don't blame him for that. He can't make a choice on that till he knocks someone up.

[Driftwood]

Oh man - the one person I know who is actually privy to such things gave me one of the headliners for Lolla because I was bitching and moaning to him about the Pats and killing myself.

Line-up will probably still suck but I will be excited for one act at least.

[WretchedSkye2113]

thanks, hansford/symb/buzz'simagination.

[wiscostraightup]

Does it start with a C????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????

[nikkirkpatrick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4R8lAjVzj0

[Driftwood]

____

[concertgoer]

Does it start with a C????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????

Or maybe an M????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????

[wiscostraightup]

I'm probably missing the point. but if that's four underscores for four letters, I'm saying it's the cure.
No one tell me I'm wrong. I'll live in bliss till the line up comes out.

[wiscostraightup]

Or maybe an M????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????

B????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????

[concertgoer]

I'm probably missing the point. but if that's four underscores for four letters, I'm saying it's the cure.
No one tell me I'm wrong. I'll live in bliss till the line up comes out.

What about Beck??????

[MadBird11]

____

Edit: Oh hey driftwood

[wiscostraightup]

i just want the damn cure and wtt.. is that so much to ask for?

[WampireVeekend]

im willing to bet it's Beck

[WretchedSkye2113]

for fuck's sake, people...

drifty, you truly deserve a troll of the year award or something.

[wiscostraightup]

My replies were 99 percent joking.
I think.

[MadBird11]

for fuck's sake, people...

drifty, you truly deserve a troll of the year award or something.

I have a feeling my four letter word is not the same as drifty's four letter word.

[nikkirkpatrick]

for fuck's sake, people...

drifty, you truly deserve a troll of the year award or something.

i nominate drifty for 'running the most campaigns at once' award.

[concertgoer]

My replies were 99 percent joking.
I think.

Same

[ferro_man]

____

william shatner with ben folds and joe jackson?

[WretchedSkye2113]

it was mostly in response to Wampire Veekend, but you guys shouldn't encourage drunkdrifty anyway.

[carligula]

Alright Carl, I know we're supposed to be loving and supportive to new posters, but you can turn a blind eye here right?

Like I said, I think SecondSet has a lot to offer this conversation and I wish everyone involved would make more of an effort to get along.

[MadBird11]

Like I said, I think SecondSet has a lot to offer this conversation and I wish everyone involved would make more of an effort to get along.

He's like the Sparknotes of Lollaboard posting.

[wiscostraightup]

you guys shouldn't encourage drunkdrifty anyway.

duly noted.

[WampireVeekend]

whoops. That being said though, I still think Beck will be one of the headliners.

[Krentistthedentist]

Everyone's an alt.

Your mom is an alt, amirite

[MadBird11]

You're no bdbu

[Krentistthedentist]

Did I say alt?
I meant cunt.

[MadBird11]

Report sent.

[WretchedSkye2113]

that's not nearly enough to get you to stick out as a candidate.

[Driftwood]

I'm not leaving a virtual paper trail but I'll inform a few select boarders the next time I see them.

[Driftwood]

Jesus guys. Cool it with the PMs.

[nikkirkpatrick]

vultures.

[wiscostraightup]

virtual paper trail

How do you feel about letters?

[Sk8guyj18]

does this thread even talk about headliners anymore

[Krentistthedentist]

I left a pretty good list of possibles laying around

[WretchedSkye2113]

Jesus guys. Cool it with the PMs.

fucking ugh.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

am i really supposed to pretend that secondset is not buzz?

[SecondSet]

am i really supposed to pretend that secondset is not buzz?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_heuristic

I've never posted here before.

[Krentistthedentist]

The alleged genius posting a wikipedia article to a psych 101 topic makes me giggle.

[MadBird11]

Is he smarter than nikoaids though? He's certainly the worst poster.

[nikkirkpatrick]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Yt3M33fzOLA/SWbw1HGo0FI/AAAAAAAAKvs/F2XwN8pIA3w/s400/jonasbrothersexperienceposter01.jpg

[MadBird11]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[nikkirkpatrick]

'worst poster'

[SecondSet]

The alleged genius posting a wikipedia article to a psych 101 topic makes me giggle.

I'm not a genius. I'm just smarter than people who think that if one person acts in a fashion that feels vaguely similar to someone they've met before, they must be the same person.

[El Goodo]

So do you have a boat?

[nikkirkpatrick]

he chose the mystery box.

[concertgoer]

So do you have a boat?

:)

[nikolajz1]

I'm not a genius. I'm just smarter than people who think that if one person acts in a fashion that feels vaguely similar to someone they've met before, they must be the same person.

I like whoever this is.

[brynrich]

Does it start with a C????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????

http://www.paularojas.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/cher-photograph-c12142223.jpeg

[Krentistthedentist]

I like whoever this is.

Yeah, you like the other literal minded guy who doesn't get jokes, too.

[nikkirkpatrick]

I like whoever this is.

you would.

[wiscostraightup]

http://www.paularojas.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/cher-photograph-c12142223.jpeg

Psh. We could never get so lucky.

[SecondSet]

Psh. We could never get so lucky.

Some names I left off my list of possibles: David Guetta, D**t P**k

[wiscostraightup]

Some names I left off my list of possibles: David Guetta, D**t P**k

Okay? Not sure why that reply was to me?

[MookieDaddy]

So glad if this Spring Awaking thing is true that we won't have Skrillex as a headliner.

[SecondSet]

So glad if this Spring Awaking thing is true that we won't have Skrillex as a headliner.

Someone in the biz mentioned DP in Chicago to me, and I just assumed Lolla, but I guess it's this thing.

[wiscostraightup]

Oh i see, insiders in the "biz" are already doing work for you. keep us up to date.
edit: ignore me. i'm a dumbass. your posts just seem to grind my gears.

[VampireWeekday]

Someone in the biz mentioned DP in Chicago to me, and I just assumed Lolla, but I guess it's this thing.

Stop this nonsense. Sorry, not happening. Huge Daft Punk fan here. But no, just no.

[MookieDaddy]

But... But... But.... There's a web page!!

Don't worry, I know it's bs.

[31_Shoot]

But... But... But.... There's a web page!!

Don't worry, I know it's bs.

The dude left an untitled microsoft paint tab open in the bottom... its definitely not real

[SecondSet]

But... But... But.... There's a web page!!

Don't worry, I know it's bs.

Yeah, I'm automatically skeptical of anything involving DP, but who else is going to help Skrillex sell Soldier Field? SHM?

[Krentistthedentist]

The dude left an untitled microsoft paint tab open in the bottom... its definitely not real


I might be a weirdo, but I post screen grabs into paint all the time.
Obviously do not think it's real, but I don't think that's why

[Broc1123]

I bet it's a marketing ploy by the festival to draw attention to it.

[oasisfan]

Does anyone else think the price point for this fest is biggest giveaway its fake?

[concertgoer]

Yes

[oasisfan]

Ok I wasn't sure on how much it should be because I don't follow this kind of music that closely, but I was guessing Daft Punk alone would be right around 90 a ticket.

[Nile19]

hope they dont get Justice... and Lolla does

[oasisfan]

hope they dont get Daft Punk... and Lolla does

.

[Krentistthedentist]

I bet Daft Punk would play up against someone good.
Hope they are not there

[Nile19]

.

... trying to be realistic here

[oasisfan]

I'm hopeful.

[Nile19]

I'm hopeful.

I feel like a dick now, I will hope with you

[oasisfan]

It's really just blind optimism.

[Greg]

http://www.billboard.com/#/news/madonna-sets-2012-world-tour-dates-1006110152.story

Madonna has an interesting gap over Lolla, but i think the Chicago date in September almost certainly rules her out.

[JML]

Yeah, she's definitely out

[arbee]

I'd likely see Madonna if she played Lollapalooza, but my interest level dropped a bit after yesterday's performance.

[oasisfan]

Lets have some crazy prediction that won't happen.


Jay-Z and Kanye West * Metallica * Daft Punk * The Black Keys
Bjork * Mumford and Sons *

The Roots - Mastodon - Cut Copy - The Avett Brothers - Portishead - Primus

Mastodon > Metallica vs Bjork < Portishead
Cut Copy > Daft Punk vs The Black Keys < Primus
The Roots > Jay-Z and Kanye West vs Mumford and Sons < The Avett Brothers

[WretchedSkye2113]

not all that crazy.
only ones i'd say "lolno" to are mastodon, portishead, and daft punk.

[oasisfan]

I feel like the big 4 US festivals go for Daft Punk each year and Lolla I think will be the one to get them again. Mastodon could be switched out for QotSa but I think Mastodon is more likely. Portishead I really don't know about, they just seem like the perfect lead in to Bjork and thus why I put them in. Granted I doubt most of this happens just cause of price alone. I'd guess maybe 2/6 of the headliners we'll get. Subs idk sometimes they make perfect sense and sometimes you get Cee Lo Green.

[WretchedSkye2113]

Hangout is making me think Coheed, who is a lolla-friendly band, could sub for metallica.
portishead seems too big to me to sub, but i think we have them as a 6:30 in our lollaboard fest lineup, so what do i know.
and if (huge if) punk is actually playing that june fest here, then lolla is obvzly a no go.

[oasisfan]

yeah Coheed would be a possible sub into Metallica.
Portishead I wasn't particularly sure of the popularity level and was thinking they were a sub in LxLb so I went with that.
Daft Punk is definitely the most glaring no fucking way thing about the prediction and they always will be, but that fest in June sounds sooooo fake. I mean idk maybe its real and if it is, I'll go to it just to see Daft Punk, but I don't believe its real at all.

[MikeAugust]

My problem with Spring Awakening is the name. Its 4 days before summer and its called spring awakening? Plus chicago already has an electronic festival

[ferro_man]

My problem with Spring Awakening is the name. Its 4 days before summer and its called spring awakening? Plus chicago already has an electronic festival

react presents represents both spring awakening and north coast music festival. Considering north coast music festival has competition to book acts with electric zoo in NYC... they can book the Electric zoo acts for spring awakening

[symbionese]

My problem with Spring Awakening is the name. Its 4 days before summer and its called spring awakening? Plus chicago already has an electronic festival

your name is mike august. it's the beginning of february.

[Audiobully]

Metallica * Red Hot Chili Peppers * The Black Keys
Jack White * Vampire Weekend * Justice
Florence + The Machine * Passion Pit * TV on the Radio
The Shins * Beirut * Noel Gallagher's High Flyin' Birds
Miike Snow * Silversun Pickups * The Weeknd
Joan Jett and the Blakhearts * Coheed and Cambria * The Head and the Heart
Explosions In The Sky * St. Vincent * Childish Gambino
Steel Pulse * Dr Dog * M. Ward * Band Of Skulls
The Civil Wars * First Aid Kit * Tune-Yards * Blind Pilot
Aloe Blacc * Theophilus London * Telekinesis
Mark Lanegan Band * The Walkmen * Charles Bradley

David Guetta * Wiz Khalifa * NERO * SBTRKT

Metallica (TOTR) v Vampire Weekend (The Shins) v David Guetta v Explosions
RHCP (Passion Pit) v Jack White (Noel Gallagher) v Nero v Beirut
The Black Keys (Florence) v Justice (Miike Snow) v Wiz Khalifa v M Ward

[El Goodo]

Will probably stay home if that is the case.

[WretchedSkye2113]

jack white and tbk headlining the same fest seems a bit much.
i also (foolishly) credit C3 with not putting TBK above their idol.

[KevBlu42]

TV on the Radio subbing for Metallica would be a disaster.

Aerosmith just announced they're going on tour in June. Assuming the tour lasts until August, I don't think they're a long shot. I know there is no precedent for a classic rock act at Lolla but Aerosmith seems relevant enough to a somewhat younger audience that they could be a possibility.

[El Goodo]

Yeah, Lolla needs more White Trash among the crowd. Book Kid Rock, too.

[KevBlu42]

Yeah, Lolla needs more White Trash among the crowd. Book Kid Rock, too.

It's hard to attract a trashier group than they did on Saturday night last year.

[JML]

Aerosmith seems relevant enough to a somewhat younger audience

I disagree

[MookieDaddy]

Guys, just because a band is touring in the summer does not mean there's a good chance they are playing Lolla.
Pretty shocking revelation.

[Nile19]

I would honestly be sad and depressed if they got Aerosmith. I would probably rethink my Lolla loyalty and look else where.

[El Goodo]

You have Lolla loyalty?

Cuz mine is like a loyalty to laziness/difficulty in traveling.

[Nile19]

Ya I dont live in Chicago

[KevBlu42]

Guys, just because a band is touring in the summer does not mean there's a good chance they are playing Lolla.
Pretty shocking revelation.

Yeah, I'll admit it was a reach. I just thought it might be worth discussing. In the end, I'm sure the tour will just be all the usual amphitheater suspects.

[fiveiron83321]

Guys, just because a band is touring in the summer does not mean there's a good chance they are playing Lolla.
Pretty shocking revelation.

remember though...in '09 when Joe Perry came out during JA

and Perry was all.. YOU GUYS WANNA SEE AEROSMITH AT LULLAPALOOZA?!



and P

[oasisfan]

So with Metallica having their own festival in Atlantic City in June this year does it hinder the chances of them being at Lolla?

[WretchedSkye2113]

i'd say it helps because it shows that Metallica is at least playing the States this year, plus they're well out of the radius clause and it's at a relatively close date but not so close that i'd be difficult for them to manage both.

[MookieDaddy]

Once again, I point to the DMB fest last year where they didn't do any festivals besides their own. I strongly doubt a Lolla appearance still.

[WretchedSkye2113]

...wasn't the DMB festival like...close?

[MookieDaddy]

There were 3 DMB's, I think... Point being, they didn't do anything else.

[WretchedSkye2113]

...but one was close.

[oasisfan]

I think it could go either way. I wouldn't think Metallica would want to play other festivals if they were playing their own because it could potentially hurt the ticket sales. However, at the same time most people who go to Lolla, Coach, Bonn, or ACL probably aren't the biggest metal heads so Metallica could potentially get away with this.

[KevBlu42]

I think it could go either way. I wouldn't think Metallica would want to play other festivals if they were playing their own because it could potentially hurt the ticket sales. However, at the same time most people who go to Lolla, Coach, Bonn, or ACL probably aren't the biggest metal heads so Metallica could potentially get away with this.

Tickets for Orion go on sale this week. It will probably be sold out by the time Lollapalooza gets announced, so there's really no conflict there.

[WretchedSkye2113]

also, the lineup for their festival is ridiculously lolla-friendly.
i mean most of those bands played last year, but it's a sign that Metallica doesn't need a full day of metal on the field.

[MookieDaddy]

Tickets for Orion go on sale this week. It will probably be sold out by the time Lollapalooza gets announced, so there's really no conflict there.

The Metallica festival is going to sell out in under a day, I would bet within an hour. Lolla won't be announced til April.

[Krentistthedentist]

I did not initially think their festival would be such a gay hipster festival, so I might need to retract my previous statement about it being more likely. There are seriously 3 other metal bands on that list, one of which is the biggest hipster metal bullshit, and another is awesome but ostensibly a hipster metal band.

Avenged Sevenfold is obviously an irredeemable piece of shit.

[nanatod]

like modest mouse or arctic monkeys are any better.

[carligula]

So with Metallica having their own festival in Atlantic City in June this year does it hinder the chances of them being at Lolla?

How about the fact that the fest is promoted by the same folks who put on Lollapalooza?


Metallica, in conjunction with friends C3 Presents, today announced the creation of Orion Music + More, a new annual music, arts, and lifestyle festival founded and headlined by the band, a natural progression for a band that has headlined legendary festivals around the world for years. Orion Music + More will take place June 23-24 at Bader Field in Atlantic City, New Jersey.

[WretchedSkye2113]

CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-CHING

[carligula]

also, the lineup for their festival is ridiculously lolla-friendly.
i mean most of those bands played last year, but it's a sign that Metallica doesn't need a full day of metal on the field.

Or it's a sign that the festival is put on by C3 Presents and Metallica is lending their name to it.

[carligula]

This might deserve its own thread. Who wants to start it?

[didyouseethe]

I hope this means Metallica won't be playing Lollapalooza.

[carligula]

http://theboard.lollapalooza.com/showthread.php?1427-Metallica-C3-Presents-Orion-Music-and-More&p=244538#post244538

[MookieDaddy]

CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-CHING

I didn't know C3 was running that show. Might change my opinion on that one now I guess...

[Krentistthedentist]

I think everyone is prematurely shooting their wads

[WretchedSkye2113]

i've already smoked the whole pack.

[mgignac]

I think everyone is prematurely shooting their wads

We've got a mess on our hands.

[Krentistthedentist]

NEW PREDICTION

Metallica * Kanye West feat Kid Cudi, Big Sean, & Pusha T* Shit Band
Beck * Shit Car Commercial Band * Shit DJ

[stelles75]

That shit car commercial band is total shit.

[WretchedSkye2113]

Led Zeppelin?

[Five_Hole]

Motley Crue?

[WretchedSkye2113]

Motley Crue?

i wasn't the only one who thought that commercial was awesome, right?

[MadBird11]

I think everyone is prematurely shooting their wads

So much this. Kind of surprised I didn't see it in the first post of the suspicious scheduling thread.

[WretchedSkye2113]

my stab at it. knowing the Roo lineup will help though.

Friday: Franz Ferdinand -> (Miike Snow) -> The Cure v Swedish House Mafia <- (AVICII) <- Florence & The Machine
Perry's: Justice Grove: Silversun Pickups
Saturday: Tenacious D -> (Coheed & Cambria) Metallica v Bjork <- (Mogwai) <- M83
Perry's: Bassnectar Grove: Andrew Bird
Sunday: The Roots -> (The Weeknd) -> Jay-Z & Kanye West v Beck <- (Chris Cornell) <- The Shins
Perry's: David Guetta Grove: Godspeed You! Black Emperor

[concertgoer]

WTT vs Beck is heartbreaking :/

[WretchedSkye2113]

yeah i know. but i mean we'd have 5 solid headliners. awful conflicts are inevitable.

[concertgoer]

I really don't see Pulp playing Lolla. I would swap them out with Franz Ferdinand or Garbage.

[WretchedSkye2113]

i cant decide if pulp would sub at lolla or headline pofo w/ bon iver and a shit edm act

[MadBird11]

Franz seems more likely.

Also, I have no problem with WTT v. Beck. I know I'm in the minority on that one.

[WretchedSkye2113]

i'd go WTT but i'd be torn up on the inside.

[Krentistthedentist]

I would rather see Beck than the Cure

[IAmScareMongering]

You guys are just setting yourselves up for disappointment by continuing to throw WTT on these predictions.

[WretchedSkye2113]

and the cure. and bjork

[wiscostraightup]

my stab at it. knowing the Roo lineup will help though.

Friday: Franz Ferdinand -> (Miike Snow) -> The Cure v Swedish House Mafia <- (AVICII) <- Florence & The Machine
Perry's: Justice Grove: Silversun Pickups
Saturday: Tenacious D -> (Coheed & Cambria) Metallica v Bjork <- (Mogwai) <- M83
Perry's: Bassnectar Grove: Andrew Bird
Sunday: The Roots -> (The Weeknd) -> Jay-Z & Kanye West v Beck <- (Chris Cornell) <- The Shins
Perry's: David Guetta Grove: Godspeed You! Black Emperor

I would lose my fucking mind if that lineup was any where close to how it's going to be.

[Krentistthedentist]

I hope WTT doesn't play so that way I can see Beck

[MadBird11]

You guys are just setting yourselves up for disappointment by continuing to throw WTT on these predictions.

derp

[wiscostraightup]

i'd go WTT but i'd be torn up on the inside.

That would be the worst conflict of all time.

[Krentistthedentist]

Nothing can top NINYe
Awful awful conflict

[WretchedSkye2113]

DigitalistArcadeGardenofSoundFire was pretty bad.

[wiscostraightup]

Yeah, I can imagine that would have been rough.
I should have said the most awful conflict in my time of going to lolla.

[wiscostraightup]

DigitalistArcadeGardenofSoundFire was pretty bad.

That was rough but arcade fire ended up being a pretty easy choice for me.

[ferro_man]

DigitalistArcadeGardenofSoundFire was pretty bad.

worst one for me was 2ManyGagas

[Broc1123]

.

[WretchedSkye2113]

a more realistic take, to please iasm,

Metallica * The Black Keys * Beck
Drake * someoverratedhipsteractthathathas2albums * uselessEDMactthatwillbeirrelevantin2years


#ktd

[Krentistthedentist]

Unless you were awesome enough to go the Vic, Soundgarden was the correct choice.

[IAmScareMongering]

derp

You're much better off suggesting one or the other.

[IAmScareMongering]

a more realistic take, to please iasm,

Metallica * The Black Keys * Beck
Drake * someoverratedhipsteractthathathas2albums * uselessEDMactthatwillbeirrelevantin2years


#ktd

Think you're missing a #1 or #2, and Audio's list has me convinced there will be no Drake.