It Starts Now: Volume Four - 2012 Lollapalooza Headliner Speculation

[MadBird11]

Sonic Youth. Final show.

Thoughts? (besides probably fake, obviously)

[JML]

Would be fucking amazing if true. I want to believe.

[Thisismyname]

Yes.
Tiesto is too big for anyone to ever believe in 800 million years that he would play Perry's
Not even Lollaleaks will try to pass that off as truth.

SHM is probably bigger than Tiesto at the moment.

[Driftwood]

Exceptions prove the well-known rule. I'm sure Radiohead has a lot more leverage than Bassnectar.

There was an article that highlighted the radius clause. It wasn't more than 3 months before the festival.

[johnd12751]

k im gonna work on a mock lineup and schedule for what we got from these leaks, itll be up soon. #waytoomuchtimeonmyhands

[DubstepRepresentation]

I can't imagine seeing Korn at Perry's. As big of a sausage fest as Perry's is, that would just bring it to a whole new level.

[johnd12751]

Lollapalooza 2012

Metallica * Beyonce * Red Hot Chili Peppers
The Killers * Beck * Sonic Youth * The Shins
Florence + the Machine * Passion Pit * Missy Elliot
At the Drive-In * Joan Jet and the Blackhearts
M83 * OFWGKTA * The Gaslight Anthem * GOTYE
The Antlers * Wale * Guided By Voices
Surfer Blood * St. Vincent

The Scheduling for this was extremely difficult, if you have suggestions just say them.

Wale -> Missy Elliot -> Beyonce vs Sonic Youth <- The Shins <- Guided By Voices
Grove- Gaslight Anthem

GOTYE -> Joan Jet -> RHCP vs Beck <- Florence + The Machine <- St. Vincent
Grove- M83

OFWGKTA -> At the Drive-In -> Metallica vs Killers <- Passion Pit <- Surfer Blood
Grove- The Antlers

[DubstepRepresentation]

That really does look like the only spot you could put OFWGKTA at.

[concertgoer]

I don't see Gaslight Anthem closing The Grove. They will be on the mainstage

[Broc1123]

I think that's it right there. ^^

[nikolajz1]

[CENTER]Lollapalooza 2012

Wale -> Missy Elliot -> Beyonce vs Sonic Youth <- The Shins <- Guided By Voices
Grove- Gaslight Anthem

GOTYE -> Joan Jet -> RHCP vs Beck <- Florence + The Machine <- St. Vincent
Grove- M83

OFWGKTA -> At the Drive-In -> Metallica vs Killers <- Passion Pit <- Surfer Blood
Grove- The Antlers

not bad

[johnd12751]

Maybe flipped with gotye

[johnd12751]

that was to the gaslight anthem thing

[johnd12751]

nikola how could you possibly see beyonce over the last sonic youth show

[nikolajz1]

I dont like Sonic Youth?

[concertgoer]

I dont like Sonic Youth?

Well yeah because they formed in the 80s amirite?

[johnd12751]

my opinion is that if you ever have the slightest opportunity to see a band play their last show, do it. doesnt matter if your crazy about them or not.

[MadBird11]

Kim Gordon is not Adele.

[concertgoer]

my opinion is that if you ever have the slightest opportunity to see a band play their last show, do it. doesnt matter if your crazy about them or not.

Not if you don't like the band.

[nikkirkpatrick]

How? I see them in Chicago in Feb.

radius spans beyond your primitive understanding of space and time

[nikkirkpatrick]

nikola how could you possibly see beyonce over the last sonic youth show

yeah, no one should be surprised by this

nik2 doesn't like #rare

[nikolajz1]

yeah, no one should be surprised by this

nik2 doesn't like #rare

who cares about rare if you dont like the band. I'll go to Beyonce and have a ton of fun.

[nikkirkpatrick]

who cares about rare if you dont like the band. I'll go to Beyonce and have a ton of fun.

should i have put a smiley in there? i wasn't trying to come at you, just stating a widely accepted fact.

[MadBird11]

who cares about rare if you dont like the band. I'll go to Beyonce and have a ton of fun.

All the single ladies, amirite?

[thombjorke.]

my opinion is that if you ever have the slightest opportunity to see a band play their last show, do it. doesnt matter if your crazy about them or not.

Jonas Brothers?

[DubstepRepresentation]

my opinion is that if you ever have the slightest opportunity to see a band play their last show, do it. doesnt matter if your crazy about them or not.

KidzBop live set?

[MadBird11]

johnd's point would be valid if anyone other than johnd said it, methinks.

[johnd12751]

lol u guys got me there

[Broc1123]

With a little better wording, maybe.

[SecondSet]

How? I see them in Chicago in Feb.


There was an article that highlighted the radius clause. It wasn't more than 3 months before the festival.

It's six months before, not three months.

[IAmScareMongering]

The radius clause is not strictly enforced, there are exceptions every single year.

[wiscostraightup]

I can't imagine seeing Korn at Perry's. As big of a sausage fest as Perry's is, that would just bring it to a whole new level.

with that name i'm kind of shocked you rip on perrys.

[ruthlessvengeance]

Kim Gordon is 1/8 of Adele.
Kim Gordon is not Adele.

[wiscostraightup]

[CENTER]Lollapalooza 2012


Wale -> Missy Elliot -> Beyonce vs Sonic Youth <- The Shins <- Guided By Voices
Grove- Gaslight Anthem

GOTYE -> Joan Jet -> RHCP vs Beck <- Florence + The Machine <- St. Vincent
Grove- M83

OFWGKTA -> At the Drive-In -> Metallica vs Killers <- Passion Pit <- Surfer Blood
Grove- The Antlers

I'm going to lolla no matter what, but that would get me very very excited for it.

[thombjorke.]

I guess that would tempt me into going, but I wouldn't spend as much on the trip this year. What's the cheapest you could get a room within 3 miles of Grant Park during Lollapalooza? I stayed at a nicer place last year so IDK.

[SecondSet]

The radius clause is not strictly enforced, there are exceptions every single year.

Sure. It still exists.

[sleeping]

I guess that would tempt me into going, but I wouldn't spend as much on the trip this year. What's the cheapest you could get a room within 3 miles of Grant Park during Lollapalooza? I stayed at a nicer place last year so IDK.
That near the park, expect to pay around 200 bucks unless you use Priceline or similar.

[nikkirkpatrick]

hostels are cheap and abundant.

[MookieDaddy]

I guess that would tempt me into going, but I wouldn't spend as much on the trip this year. What's the cheapest you could get a room within 3 miles of Grant Park during Lollapalooza? I stayed at a nicer place last year so IDK.

Same discussion ever year, go here (http://theboard.lollapalooza.com/showthread.php?47-Hotels-Where-to-stay).

[Broc1123]

Sure. It still exists.

What the fuck is this supposed to mean?

Of course there is still a radius clause. But it clearly isn't strongly enforced (see MGMT and MMJ)

[SecondSet]

What the fuck is this supposed to mean?

Of course there is still a radius clause. But it clearly isn't strongly enforced (see MGMT and MMJ)

The fact is that the vast majority of artists fit within the clause, which is "enforced" strongly enough to be the subject of a State AG investigation.

MGMT probably got around it because Andrew is good friends with Perry.

MMJ I don't know about, but I'd imagine that it was waived for them because they have an obsessive, jamband-like fanbase that has no problem attending repeat shows in a short timeframe.

[thombjorke.]

With or without a radius clause, it's not smart for a band to play Lollapalooza and another Chicago venue in close proximity.

It's not a good value for Lolla to book a band if 5,000 of their biggest fans just saw them a month ago and similarly it's not a good idea for a band to try to sell 5,000 tickets if 50,000 people recently saw them at a festival in the same city.

[johnd12751]

why are we even talking about it? beacuse of chili peppers or what?

[Driftwood]

Everyone stop mentioning a band or two. We are discussing it because Soundset really thinks the radius clause is in effect six months before hte fest so Bassnectar and Korn are affected by it. It probably "applies" to most bands purely out of convenience (why hit Chicago earlier when you can just do it at Lolla) but the reality is probably about 1/4 of the bands play a Chicago show within six months of the fest. Do you think it's going to stop Goyte and M83 playing?

[thombjorke.]

Everyone stop mentioning a band or two. We are discussing it because Soundset really thinks the radius clause is in effect six months before hte fest so Bassnectar and Korn are affected by it. It probably "applies" to most bands purely out of convenience (why hit Chicago earlier when you can just do it at Lolla) but the reality is probably about 1/4 of the bands play a Chicago show within six months of the fest. Do you think it's going to stop Goyte and M83 playing?

Kind of similar to what I said in my above post. I think you're probably right.

[SecondSet]

We are discussing it because Soundset really thinks the radius clause is in effect six months before hte fest so Bassnectar and Korn are affected by it.

I don't think, I know.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2010/08/04/128982880/lollapalooza-undergoing-investigation-by-illinois-attorneygeneral

[wiscostraightup]

I don't think, I know.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2010/08/04/128982880/lollapalooza-undergoing-investigation-by-illinois-attorneygeneral

Remember that time you completely ignored everyone saying that, yes there is a radius clause, but it isn't strictly enforced for a lot of acts? Me too.

[Driftwood]

Lollapalooza says you can't play for a total of 9 months in the market – 6 months before and 3 months after. And they define the market as 300 miles around Chicago: that includes Madison, Milwaukee, Detroit, Ann Arbor."

Lets count the number of acts on the line-up that have a date within 300 miles of Chicago 3 days prior or 3 days after the fest. I'm betting it is at least a half.

[SecondSet]

Remember that time you completely ignored everyone saying that, yes there is a radius clause, but it isn't strictly enforced for a lot of acts? Me too.

Not every incorrect statement on the internet requires a correction (especially when there's an endless supply of the less-informed and/or teenagers). Even if that's a lesson neither I nor Perry has yet fully internalized.

[didyouseethe]

I wouldn't take that article to heart simply because it has an interview with Bruce Finkelman in it.

[wiscostraightup]

Are you implying I shouldn't have corrected you? You keep going on and on about the same point, ignoring the fact that you're wrong. It's like watching the republican primary. I just figured adding that you're wrong one more time could have made you finally give it up.

[thombjorke.]

This is kinda like the time he went on and on about the Lollapalooza "brand" being "damaged" by certain acts.

[SecondSet]

This is kinda like the time he went on and on about the Lollapalooza "brand" being "damaged" by certain acts.

There are many things about which the majority of this board appears ill-informed.

[SecondSet]

Lets count the number of acts on the line-up that have a date within 300 miles of Chicago 3 days prior or 3 days after the fest. I'm betting it is at least a half.

What lineup? The one made up by some guy with a twitter account?

[DubstepRepresentation]

with that name i'm kind of shocked you rip on perrys.

When I first started reading this board, I noticed almost nobody liked any type of EDM so I made it that because I like the music. Unless you have an arrangement to go into Perry's with a girl you know and dance with her, it is the sausagiest of sausage fests.

[Driftwood]

What lineup? The one made up by some guy with a twitter account?

When it does come out.

[carligula]

Or you can use the 2011 lineup right now.

[JML]

Damnit, I knew I shouldn't have went to the FB page.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1382/moronr.png

[wiscostraightup]

There are many things about which the majority of this board appears ill-informed.

oh god.. not again..

[thombjorke.]

Damnit, I knew I shouldn't have went to the FB page.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1382/moronr.png

LOL was that CG he called a musically challenged moron later in that same status?

[concertgoer]

oh god.. not again..

It's a Saturday night ritual!

[ferro_man]

Damnit, I knew I shouldn't have went to the FB page.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1382/moronr.png

massive lulz at incubus not being a throwback

[SecondSet]

With or without a radius clause, it's not smart for a band to play Lollapalooza and another Chicago venue in close proximity.

It's not a good value for Lolla to book a band if 5,000 of their biggest fans just saw them a month ago and similarly it's not a good idea for a band to try to sell 5,000 tickets if 50,000 people recently saw them at a festival in the same city.

There are many reasons to play a show and a fest in a short time frame, as illustrated by the existence of night shows at many festivals, for one thing. The non-festival show is often longer (especially for bands like MMJ that play at great length - up to four hours at times) and will include deeper cuts than a short festival set designed for a wider audience. It therefore better serves hardcore fans who also may not want to pay for a festival ticket just to see their band, not to mention the band itself in some cases, which may prefer playing in a different venue and at a different time of day. There's also the matter of festival set conflicts. A band is probably going to lose some of its potential audience at a festival to a competing group or otherwise disadvantageous timeslot.

This presumes an act that already has some substantial popularity. A more up and coming band can help build buzz for a festival appearance with a well-received show earlier in the year.

And of course if the band has sold out a show prior to the festival or reasonably anticipates selling it out, it has no lost ticket sales to worry about. The band might book a pre-festival show in a smaller venue for just that purpose.

[concertgoer]

LOL was that CG he called a musically challenged moron later in that same status?

So alt yes?

[thombjorke.]

So alt yes?

You have the same picture on the board and on facebook, it wasn't too hard to infer that it was you.

[concertgoer]

You have the same picture on the board and on facebook, it wasn't too hard to infer that it was you.

Oh yeah. I guess I need to mix it up a bit.

[thombjorke.]

We're on the same side here. No need for conflict.

[SecondSet]

It is very common for bands to play two nights in a town (sometimes announcing one show, selling it out, then announcing the second), or to revisit it within several months. There's no reason why one such show should not be at a festival.

[concertgoer]

We're on the same side here. No need for conflict.

Us Floridians need to stick together amirite?

[thombjorke.]

Us Floridians need to stick together amirite?

Seems like it's us against the world sometimes.

[thombjorke.]

Is there someone named Hugo on this board? Because that guy has been on the front page of the facebook page literally every time I've checked it over the last year.

[concertgoer]

Not that I am aware of

[thombjorke.]

He might as well be invited to the board, I feel bad for him that he spends all of his time talking about Lollapalooza with those people.

[Thisismyname]

#TeampretendIdon'tliveinFlorida.

[concertgoer]

#TeampretendIdon'tliveinFlorida.

<3

[brynrich]

Apparently the Smashing Pumpkins are a real possibility... https://twitter.com/#!/bdicrescenzo/status/168549867264811008

[didyouseethe]

Apparently the Smashing Pumpkins are a real possibility...

I just hope the leaker was wrong on some of the headliners he mentioned.

This would be exciting though...

[muthastone]

what about Modest Mouse as the 6th headliner?

especially with the C3/Orion news.

[Krentistthedentist]

At Orion, they are billed behind a band that was billed 13th at Lollapalooza 2011.
Even when they headlined, they did not really headline. I would be very surprised if they could headline this festival. They could definitely sub though.

[muthastone]

They are billed behind a band that was billed 13th at Lollapalooza 2011.
Even when they headlined, they did not really headline. I would be very surprised if they could headline this festivaal.

which band is that? i should probably check the ORION billing.

[muthastone]

arctic nm got it

[drink]

i really dont believe any festival is ever going to get the original smashing pumpkins lineup. i wont believe it until i see it booked with "original lineup" tagged on there. (and not fake twitter booked either)

[nikolajz1]

i really dont believe any festival is ever going to get the original smashing pumpkins lineup. i wont believe it until i see it booked with "original lineup" tagged on there. (and not fake twitter booked either)

Pumpkins could headline just with Billy playing all the hits- Teargarden crap with the current set of scrubs.

If the original line up got back together I'm assuming they'd be #1 at Lolla.

[muthastone]

yeah like sound garden in 2010.

[WretchedSkye2113]

i have faith in my new sig! ~~~

[mth517]

Daft Punk* The Killers* Black Keys/Radiohead*
Bon Iver* Vampire Weekend* The Shins*

[johnd12751]

In a world where the shins headline, bon iver is a 4, and radiohead is behind the killers.

[symbionese]

aside from radiohead, s/he has it right.

[muthastone]

wow.....

just saw on twitter from @bdicrescenzo. but his tweet has now been deleted.

said something like "don't ask me how how i know but Swedish House Mafia and Sigur Ros are on the bill. HIGH"

[BearDownBoilerUp]

for some reason i believe everything this dicrescenzo guy says. so..

smahsing pumpkins
metallica
beck
jack white
sigur ros
SHM

that looks fucking awesome to me

[muthastone]

https://twitter.com/#!/SennettReport

its on his now

[muthastone]

for some reason i believe everything this dicrescenzo guy says. so..

smahsing pumpkins
metallica
beck
jack white
sigur ros
SHM

that looks fucking awesome to me

yeah looking solid.

[MookieDaddy]

*IF* that is real (don't know how much to believe this guy over this LollaLeaks garbage, but I'd be pretty thrilled with that too.

[MadBird11]

Has Perry asked about this guys penis size yet?

[MookieDaddy]

More importantly, what kind of a lier dicrescenzo is.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

i think its a good sign that he was asked to remove his tweet. and that unlike lollaleaks, he actually has some credentials.

[muthastone]

yeah retweeted by the editor-in-chief / prez of the tribune

[fan o gano]

i think its a good sign that he was asked to remove his tweet. and that unlike lollaleaks, he actually has some credentials.

I believe he worked at Pitchfork for many years before Time Out.

I'd have to see the undercard before saying I'm in, but Beck & Sigur Ros is tempting.

[WretchedSkye2113]

grrr conflictapalooza.

[fan o gano]

& I would be more excited about smashing pumpkins if I hadn't seen them already.
& I would be excited for Jack White if this was like 5 years ago.
& no comment on the other two.

[MookieDaddy]

It's been a long time since there were 4 of the 6 headliners I'd actually want to see. Going to attempt to not get my hopes up now.

[JML]

for some reason i believe everything this dicrescenzo guy says. so..

smahsing pumpkins
metallica
beck
jack white
sigur ros
SHM

that looks fucking awesome to me

That looks good from a personal standpoint but it just seems like it's lacking in star power when you compare it to the headliners of the past couple years.

[muthastone]

needs more jimmy iha

[MookieDaddy]

Dreading the matchup now:

Sigur Ros vs. Beck
SHM vs. Metallica
Jack vs. Smashing Pumpkins?

I dunno. I'm sure they'd put Beck and SR against each other since those are my top priorities.

[WretchedSkye2113]

it'd have to be the original lineup for me to see SP. not wasting 2 hours on the Billy pity party.

Metallica, Beck, and either Sigur Ros or Jack White would be a lovely weekend.

[El Goodo]

5/6 = Let's do this.

And, yes, obviously Billy & The Kids isn't "SP," nor anything to get excited about. But I can attest to them being good, especially when playing the deeper cuts as they did on their last tour.

[arbee]

Sigur Ros vs. Beck
SHM vs. Metallica
Jack vs. Smashing Pumpkins

I like that...

[BearDownBoilerUp]

That looks good from a personal standpoint but it just seems like it's lacking in star power when you compare it to the headliners of the past couple years.

It's possible that the festival organizers believe they can retain their original fanbase and still sell out the festival. The new demo they've been grabbing the last couple years is probably hooked by now anyway. My little sister listens to Beck and Jack White.

[El Goodo]

Sigur Ros vs. Beck
SHM vs. Metallica
Jack vs. Smashing Pumpkins

I like that...

Not me. That puts the 4 I would want to see most in conflict.

[WretchedSkye2113]

it'd have to be the original lineup for me to see SP. not wasting 2 hours on the Billy pity party.

Metallica, Beck, and either Sigur Ros or Jack White would be a lovely weekend.

having said this, i don't think we're getting jack white (unless he does a show with beck like my sig says! weeeeeeeeee)
i think we'll get a pop #1 and white will just go to roo and play StL and maybe a chicago date.

[snoopydoggy2002]

If I could see Sigur Ros, Beck, and Jack White I would be happy. I would also settle for Sigur Ros, Jack White, and Metallica.

[WretchedSkye2113]

im not sold on that billing order, if that's what was suggested with the order of that "leak."

sigur ros would be higher and sp (lest it was a special reunion show) would be lower.

[nikkirkpatrick]

is that the 'billing' at the top of this page? if so, sigur ros would be 6th.

[WretchedSkye2113]

bdbu posted it first in this order:




smahsing pumpkins
metallica
beck
jack white
sigur ros
SHM

[fan o gano]

where's the tweet where he mentions Beck and Metallica?

[muthastone]

"@SennettReport Metallica, Beck smell legit from what I've heard. But a new mother, a lackluster repeat and a recently split marriage? Hmm"

[BearDownBoilerUp]

bdbu posted it first in this order:

i wasn't really thinking about billing order when i typed that out but i think that's probably how it would be billed, no?

[WretchedSkye2113]

i wasn't really thinking about billing order when i typed that out but i think that's probably how it would be billed, no?

was saying i think sp would be lower and sigur ros might be higher. but idk.

[JML]

"@SennettReport Metallica, Beck smell legit from what I've heard. But a new mother, a lackluster repeat and a recently split marriage? Hmm"

To me that doesn't sound like he had anything concrete on Metallica and Beck, he might've just been speculating and thinking they sounded possible.

It sounds like he definitely has some evidence of Sigur Ros and SHM though

[snoopydoggy2002]

To me that doesn't sound like he had anything concrete on Metallica and Beck, he might've just been speculating and thinking they sounded possible.

It sounds like he definitely has some evidence of Sigur Ros and SHM though

Are you reading the same thing as me? He said he has heard Metallica and Beck are legit. He doesn't say anything about speculation or thinking they sound possible. He has heard they are legit.

[nikkirkpatrick]

was saying i think sp would be lower and sigur ros might be higher. but idk.

both would be lower, imo SP is a #3, sigur ros #6, and that's only because they should play at night.

[WretchedSkye2113]

both would be lower, imo SP is a #3, sigur ros #6, and that's only because they should play at night.

SP below Metallica and (probably) Beck makes good sense to me.
i thought Sigur Ros was huge, but that may be related to the people i hang out with influencing my opinion of them.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

I see where JML is going. It could be interpreted that he was just saying Beck and Metallica sound plausible, but not any of those other leaks. The Jack White, Smashing Pumpkins, Sigur Ros, and SHM tweets definitely sounded like he had insider information though.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

Sigur Ros is kind of a music staple at this point and has a reputation of being an awesome night time festival act. They have achieved a certain degree of mainstream popularity. I think if Passion Pit can headline, Sigur Ros certainly can.

[nikkirkpatrick]

i only know 1 other person irl who even knows who sigur ros is. comparing them to passion pit is pretty gonny.

(can i say goony? may be offensive to goons.)

[thombjorke.]

both would be lower, imo SP is a #3, sigur ros #6, and that's only because they should play at night.

SP with original lineup is almost certainly a #1 or 2 (especially with the other supposed leaked headliners). With just Billy they aren't even a headliner. With Billy and another member or two I guess they could be a #3.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

i only know 1 other person irl who even knows who sigur ros is.

weird. how old are you?

[WretchedSkye2113]

they're a headliner no matter what, but a 3 or a 4 behind the pop act and Metallica unless it's the full band and it's billed as "full lineup reunion," in which case it can be a 1 or 2.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

I'm assuming that they would not book SP without the original line-up.

[nikkirkpatrick]

weird. how old are you?

26. most of my friends are culturally stunted via detroit's crumbling everything.

[WretchedSkye2113]

agreed. i dont even think billy would wanna play something like that unless it was the original lineup

[thombjorke.]

There is no way that SP could be a #3 headliner with just Billy unless this new album miraculously produces some hits. I guess they could be a #6 with just him as is but I doubt it.

[nikkirkpatrick]

SP with original lineup is almost certainly a #1 or 2 (especially with the other supposed leaked headliners). With just Billy they aren't even a headliner. With Billy and another member or two I guess they could be a #3.

well, it's not going to be billy + any original members because they all hate him, or love crack more. and it will be billed top 3 because the name 'smashing pumpkins' has a draw.

[El Goodo]

agreed. i dont even think billy would wanna play something like that unless it was the original lineup

You don't know Billy, then.

He would play the biggest stage he could with this lineup. He loves them. They're happy. He doesn't miss the original members (well probably Jimmy), and he believes wherever/whenever he is playing SP songs, SP lives.

[thombjorke.]

well, it's not going to be billy + any original members because they all hate him, or love crack more. and it will be billed top 3 because the name 'smashing pumpkins' has a draw.

Do you also think the current Alice in Chains lineup would be a top 3 headliner? Because they have about the same draw as the current SP lineup.

[WretchedSkye2113]

wait, let's back up.

is there any proof of SP touring this year yet?

[nikkirkpatrick]

wait, let's back up.

is there any proof of SP touring this year yet?

yeah, i realized i was talking about it like it's happening, and have no reason why.

[thombjorke.]

They have a new album coming out in a few months (and supposedly it's better than the last few).

[BearDownBoilerUp]

oh right that makes sense unfortunately.

[WretchedSkye2113]

just following our logic here:

Beck/Jack White: Sasquatch, Hangout, Roo (maybe), etc
Metallica: Orion, Sonisphere
Sigur Ros: Bestival
Smashing Pumpkins: ???
Beyonce/Killers/Sonic Youth: LollaLeaks
the Throne: ???


(not a critique, just a summation)

[nikkirkpatrick]

Do you also think the current Alice in Chains lineup would be a top 3 headliner? Because they have about the same draw as the current SP lineup.

i think more people will go 0_o at SP than AiC. could be wrong.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

I kind of see Metallica as a long shot at this point. But I do see Beck coming. I think the headliners I posted minus Metallica plus a pop/rap headliner makes sense. Part of me thinks Perry was hinting at Dre with his "Dr. for your brain" comment.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

i think more people will go 0_o at SP than AiC. could be wrong.

really? i think i'd rather see current SP than current AIC. That said, I would probably skip both for a decent Perry's act.

[nikkirkpatrick]

really? i think i'd rather see current SP than current AIC. That said, I would probably skip both for a decent Perry's act.

that's what i mean. 0_o as in, 'interesting'. i doubt anyone thinks alice in chains is interesting sans layne.

[dij22]

Didn't the Smashing Pumpkins play the Riv last time around?

[concertgoer]

I'm assuming that they would not book SP without the original line-up.

I mean I think it would have to least be Billy and James in order for them to be booked.

[concertgoer]

well, it's not going to be billy + any original members because they all hate him, or love crack more. and it will be billed top 3 because the name 'smashing pumpkins' has a draw.

Last time in Orlando they played House of Blues. The current incarnation is not big enough to headline.

[nikkirkpatrick]

like i said, i got ahead of myself.

[El Goodo]

Didn't the Smashing Pumpkins play the Riv last time around?

Correct.

[concertgoer]

for some reason i believe everything this dicrescenzo guy says. so..

smahsing pumpkins
metallica
beck
jack white
sigur ros
SHM

that looks fucking awesome to me

Agreed but I only see two south stage headliners there (assuming that the Pumpkins will be playing with some original members)

[concertgoer]

like i said, i got ahead of myself.

Sorry I was reading through the thread really fast.

[El Goodo]

Guys, Billy & the Kids would get at a 5-6 at Lolla given their history with the fest and it being in 'their' hometown.

[concertgoer]

Didn't Billy spurn C3 in 2007 in favor of playing V Fest in Baltimore?

[concertgoer]

And even if Billy and the kids are a 5 or 6 then that lineup is missing two south field headliners.

[nikkirkpatrick]

Agreed but I only see two south stage headliners there (assuming that the Pumpkins will be playing with some original members)

SHM

[WretchedSkye2113]

no.

[WretchedSkye2113]

there's a south stage pop/hiphop act we're missing here.

[nikkirkpatrick]

you say that now...

[WretchedSkye2113]

you think they're gonna ditch the idea of having a pop act after the success with ye (multiple times), punk, gaga, and eminem?

[nikkirkpatrick]

i think SHM fits that mold pretty well.

edit: oops that was irt to your first post.

[concertgoer]

you say that now...

I thought about that, but I don't see them playing the south field.
IDK are they as big as Daft Punk at this point?

[WretchedSkye2113]

i'm also still under the impression that there's a 6 slot formula (pop/rock/reunion/indie/euro/new) to choosing headliners. :p

[WretchedSkye2113]

i think SHM fits that mold pretty well.

edit: oops that was irt to your first post.

oh. my b.
i srsly dont know anything about SHM or how popular they are.

i figured a 6 slot was being generous, if it were to happen. didnt realize south field could happen.

[nikkirkpatrick]

oh. my b.
i srsly dont know anything about SHM or how popular they are.

i figured a 6 slot was being generous, if it were to happen. didnt realize south field could happen.

they are much bigger than dead mau5 fwiw

[arbee]

SP below Metallica and (probably) Beck makes good sense to me.
i thought Sigur Ros was huge, but that may be related to the people i hang out with influencing my opinion of them.

over 50% of the Lolla "fans" will say "who"?

[BearDownBoilerUp]

over 50% of the Lolla "fans" will say "who"?

same with beck and the cure though.

[WretchedSkye2113]

beck's pretty well known. if only for 2 songs.
same with the cure.

[nikkirkpatrick]

same with beck and the cure though.

i'd say more than 50% of lolla fans will recognize http://www.beckbeckbeck.net/pictures/futurama/beck_futurama12.jpg

[BearDownBoilerUp]

i'm using my little sister, the completely typical pop/dance fan that was recruited to lolla fandom recently that you all hate and think make up 50% of the target audience, as my reference. she knew who beck was but didnt know his music. she did not know who SHM was. she probably has no idea who the cure is. she was psyched for beyonce and RHCP.

[arbee]

yea i think both those artists have a much higher profile than Sigur Ros.

Also, only 10% can pronounce their name correctly.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

how is it pronounced anyway?

[WretchedSkye2113]

DEAD MOUSE.

oh wait-

[nikkirkpatrick]

i'm using my little sister, the completely typical pop/dance fan that was recruited to lolla fandom recently that you all hate and think make up 50% of the target audience, as my reference. she knew who beck was but didnt know his music. she did not know who SHM was. she probably has no idea who the cure is. she was psyched for beyonce and RHCP.

i bet she knows the members of shm individually.

[arbee]

how is it pronounced anyway?

call me on my toll free number and i"ll tell you.

[arbee]

DEAD MOUSE.

oh wait-

Dead mau five

[BearDownBoilerUp]

by the way i find people like my little sister coming to lollapalooza for the deadmau5 and staying for the beck to be a beautiful thing, not something to be angry about.

[arbee]

Sigur Rós (Icelandic pronunciation: [ˈsɪːɣʏr ˈroːus]

[WretchedSkye2113]

by the way i find people like my little sister coming to lollapalooza for the deadmau5 and staying for the beck to be a beautiful thing, not something to be angry about.

what are you going on about and who is it directed towards?

you'll find most regulars who bother posting in this thread aren't a part of the newly founded lollahater crowd.

[31_Shoot]

Sigur Rós (Icelandic pronunciation: [ˈsɪːɣʏr ˈroːus]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_D6Q3MWU8U

I always just say Sig(as in cigarette)- ER (as in swerve) Ross (as in that douchebag on friends). But apparently I'm mistaken?

[thombjorke.]

they are much bigger than dead mau5 fwiw

This is most likely true but I think that seeing them on the South Stage in 2012 is quite a stretch.

[thombjorke.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_D6Q3MWU8U

I always just say Sig(as in cigarette)- ER (as in swerve) Ross (as in that douchebag on friends). But apparently I'm mistaken?

I thought the "g" was silent.

[31_Shoot]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sigur_ros.ogg

wikipedia pronounces it too?

[arbee]

...the g is silent....and i think it is pronounced "rosh"

[WretchedSkye2113]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_D6Q3MWU8U

I always just say Sig(as in cigarette)- ER (as in swerve) Ross (as in that douchebag on friends). But apparently I'm mistaken?

related video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njexVZxjhJc&feature=related)

[concertgoer]

over 50% of the Lolla "fans" will say "who"?

That number is probably too low.

[concertgoer]

same with beck and the cure though.

They are both much more well known imo

[WretchedSkye2113]

if only for "boys don't cry" and "loser", amirite?

[Driftwood]

Whatever, the wife had friends who couldn't believe I was seeing Depeche Mode (they were like "I think the name is familiar?") and they'd gone to multiple Lollas.

[31_Shoot]

if only for "boys don't cry" and "loser", amirite?

Friday I'm in Love + E-Pro too?

[Driftwood]

if only for "boys don't cry" and "loser", amirite?

Where It's At, Friday I'm In Love

[WretchedSkye2113]

it was a joke, you goobers.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

what are you going on about and who is it directed towards?

you'll find most regulars who bother posting in this thread aren't a part of the newly founded lollahater crowd.

no need to get defensive. i was just sayin'.

[WretchedSkye2113]

i know.
i'm just sayin' it doesn't really need to be said in this thread because most of us are still with you on having a hard on for lolla lineups. :)

[concertgoer]

if only for "boys don't cry" and "loser", amirite?

Don't forget Just Like Heaven and Lovesong

[Broc1123]

I feel like the Cure have a lot of songs that are recognizable to pretty much anyone that goes to Lolla. But half those people wouldn't be able to tell you who it is by.

[nikkirkpatrick]

I feel like the Cure have a lot of songs that are recognizable to pretty much anyone that goes to Lolla. But half those people wouldn't be able to tell you who it is by.

for instance, 'love song': 'oh you mean that song by 311?'

[Krentistthedentist]

The song from the hes just not that into you trailer

[Broc1123]

Typing in "lovesong" on Google gives you artists in this order: Adele, Cure, 311.

[arbee]

BEST "LOVE SONG"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsOUja8trtA

[WampireVeekend]

i know im a page slow, but i think the the "ros" in sigur ros is pronounced like "roast" just without the t. the sigur im still not sure about

[Broc1123]

"rose"

[nikolajz1]

If the rumors are true this Lolla is more like what you would have expected last years 20th anniversary to look like.

[Audiobully]

weird. how old are you?

I'm 34 and know like 3 people who know who the hell sigur ros is.

[concertgoer]

Yeah they aren't headlining Lolla

[Krentistthedentist]

I can think of like 7 or 8 people I know outside this board who know who they are.

[MadBird11]

I know 4 people outside the board.

[WretchedSkye2113]

solo conozco vosotros. :(

[Audiobully]

"HIGH" could mean sub-headliner, like 7th or 8th billed. We should all be asking who they're subbing for. The Cure?

Could the lineup be:

Metallica * The Cure * Jack White
Beck * Smashing Pumpkins * Justice
Sigur Ros * Florence + The Machine * Passion Pit

[muthastone]

"HIGH" could mean sub-headliner, like 7th or 8th billed. We should all be asking who they're subbing for. The Cure?

Could the lineup be:

Metallica * The Cure * Jack White
Beck * Smashing Pumpkins * Justice
Sigur Ros * Florence + The Machine * Passion Pit

sigur ros --> the cure would be insane!!

I could see Sigur Ros headlining though. Out of the bands that "leaked" this one got the best response from my group of friends.

[Waffle_Fish]

"HIGH" could mean sub-headliner, like 7th or 8th billed. We should all be asking who they're subbing for. The Cure?

Could the lineup be:

Metallica * The Cure * Jack White
Beck * Smashing Pumpkins * Justice
Sigur Ros * Florence + The Machine * Passion Pit

Switch Justice with SHM and that could easily be the top 9. Justice is going to end up in Perry's.

[dij22]

"HIGH" could mean sub-headliner, like 7th or 8th billed. We should all be asking who they're subbing for. The Cure?

Could the lineup be:

Metallica * The Cure * Jack White
Beck * Smashing Pumpkins * Justice
Sigur Ros * Florence + The Machine * Passion Pit

There's no way Jack White solo is a top 3 act at Lollapalooza.

[concertgoer]

I think Wretched is right in that we are missing a pop or hip hop headliner.

[thombjorke.]

These rumors just got CoS official.

[concertgoer]

Yeah I saw that

[muthastone]

I think Wretched is right in that we are missing a pop or hip hop headliner.

G.O.O.D. Music presents...

[agenthal]

Woohoo! A rumor I actually trust!

[IAmScareMongering]

Not believing anything until we hear from Kot.

[Krentistthedentist]

you don't believe metallica?
gtfo

[stelles75]

This is going to be such an easy decision for me (to skip it this year).

[concertgoer]

:/
I guess I will have to hang out you at Music Midtown

[Krentistthedentist]

Lolla 2011 was travelworthy but Metallicapallooza is not?
HMMMMMM

[MadBird11]

This is going to be such an easy decision for me (to skip it this year).

Please come to Pitchfork so I can drink and smoke with you, thanks.

[IAmScareMongering]

If those 6 do come to fruition, I will attend Lolla 12 in some fashion.

[WretchedSkye2113]

WHICH 6?
we've had like 3 fake top 6's in the past days =/

[thombjorke.]

If those 6 do come to fruition, I will attend Lolla 12 in some fashion.

Via webcast?

[MadBird11]

I think those acts are a good start, but, like everything else, I call bullshit.

[stelles75]

:/
I guess I will have to hang out you at Music Midtown

Yes! That one is too convenient and cheap for me to miss.

Krentist, Metallica is not a draw for me. I gave them up long ago. Given that the rest of these headliners are going to happen, there's stuff that I'd want to see but nothing I'm going to want to muster the troops for this year.

Also, I never heard of Swedish Squirrel Brigade.

[IAmScareMongering]

WHICH 6?
we've had like 3 fake top 6's in the past days =/

smashing pumpkins
metallica
beck
jack white
sigur ros
SHM

[WretchedSkye2113]

oh. yes that one is quite good.

[dij22]

That would be so unbelievably weak, it's a #1, a #5, and 4 #6's.

[concertgoer]

Yeah it's obviously not going to be the top six

[Krentistthedentist]

SP could be a four or five. So could Beck.
JW, SR, and SHM are all sixes.

[WretchedSkye2113]

dij:

that's why it's not happening #qualityvquantity

it's lacking a pop act and fad bands.

[Krentistthedentist]

typo?

[WretchedSkye2113]

fear.

[IAmScareMongering]

That would be so unbelievably weak, it's a #1, a #5, and 4 #6's.

They're all headline worthy and 5 of them make good music. Who gives what number they should be at?

[Krentistthedentist]

The people trying to sell tickets for this festival.

[WretchedSkye2113]

Who gives what number they should be at?

C3, unfortunately.

[concertgoer]

SP could be a four or five. So could Beck.
JW, SR, and SHM are all sixes.

Not even a six

[brynrich]

That would be so unbelievably weak, it's a #1, a #5, and 4 #6's.

For real. These ain't the headliners.

[Krentistthedentist]

They had a song in the preview for that one movie about Driftwood outsmarting Regis Philbin.

[IAmScareMongering]

The people trying to sell tickets for this festival.


C3, unfortunately.

Well yes, but you would certainly not see any complaining from me.

[concertgoer]

The people trying to sell tickets for this festival.

Yeah they wouldn't achieve another sellout this year with that group of headliners.

[JML]

If Sigur Ros is at Lolla but they play before it gets dark out I'm going to be disappointed.

They're probably way too big for the Grove right?

[WretchedSkye2113]

Well yes, but you would certainly not see any complaining from me.

no argument that'd be a great 6 for lots of us.

doesn't mean it's gonna appeal to the masses and c3's target crowds though.

[concertgoer]

Jonsi played at Coachella during the middle of the day so I don't that Sigur Ros has to play after dark.

[Krentistthedentist]

Yeah derpmongerer I don't think Dij is arguing that the bands are shit
Just that C3 would never book a top 6 that light

[IAmScareMongering]

Yeah derpmongerer I don't think Dij is arguing that the bands are shit
Just that C3 would never book a top 6 that light

Ah, well "weak" seems like a poor choice of words to get that across.

[concertgoer]

The more I think about the more I think that the SP rumor is bullshit.

[concertgoer]

IASM is testy tonight