It Starts Now: Volume Four - 2012 Lollapalooza Headliner Speculation

[Nile19]

If he's against Metallica that'd be counter intuitive. It'd get louder the further back you go.

In that case I would not be at Bon Iver at all

[WretchedSkye2113]

So, with Bon Iver playing Dour Fest in Belgium in mid july, I'm starting to suspect they could be the WTF #6 headliner.

http://www.dourfestival.be/en/lineup/

not really a wtf headliner. definitely a part of the #6 "rising star" slot crew.
and has played lolla before.

but i think we all assumed headlining pofo because of how hard pitchfork rode bon iver last year.

[WretchedSkye2113]

and i'd be perfectly cool with bon iver headlining because it guarantees i won't have a conflict for at least 1 night.

[mgignac]

and i'd be perfectly cool with bon iver headlining because it guarantees i won't have a conflict for at least 1 night.

This, definitely.

Throne + The Cure + The Killers
Jack White + Beck + Bon Iver

The Killers vs. Bon Iver
Throne vs. Jack White
The Cure vs. Beck

South stage all weekend for me, even though I sincerely believe on the complete off-chance The Cure gets booked, they're a north-stager.

[concertgoer]

The Cure vs Beck would make me cry :/

[mgignac]

If Eddie Vedder played would he really headline? I feel like namewise he definitely would, but material-wise it seems like he'd sub for Bon Iver or something.

EDIT: The real reason I'm asking is because I really want Glen Hansard to be there in any capacity and Eddie getting booked could have some influence in him getting booked as well, maybe? I don't know.

[concertgoer]

Eddie's solo show doesn't seem like it work well at a big festival like Lolla.

[mgignac]

Actually I like this way better:

Throne + The Cure + The Killers
Blur + Swedish House Mafia + Bon Iver

The Killers vs. Bon Iver
The Throne vs. The Cure :mad:
Swedish House Mafia vs. Blur

[mgignac]

Eddie's solo show doesn't seem like it work well at a big festival like Lolla.

Ultimately I agree with this

[JML]

The Throne vs. The Cure :mad:

Don't even suggest this as a possibility.

[wiscostraightup]

Although awful, it would be hilarious to read the board's reaction.

[31_Shoot]

Don't even suggest this as a possibility.

yeah fuck that. the biggeset conflict in the history of conflicts. hyperbolic? i dont think so.

[carligula]

Cure. Easy.

[mgignac]

Switch The Cure and Bon Iver then

[alady]

Throne, easy.

[concertgoer]

It would be a horrible conflict, but I would go with WTT.

[MadBird11]

Cure. Easy.

.

[wiscostraightup]

Cure.

[concertgoer]

I wonder how many people who are picking The Cure attended the WTT tour?

[MadBird11]

I wonder how many people who are picking The Cure attended the WTT tour?

I did not.

[wiscostraightup]

I didn't either. But I still feel like seeing two rappers who constantly play shows in the U.S over the cure wouldn't be a wise choice, but that's just me. I'd honestly probably split sets in the end.

[Thisismyname]

The Cure at MSG -> hop on a train to Chicago -> The Throne.

But to honestly answer that question, The Cure, definitely. Would fuck'n suck though.

[wiscostraightup]

Being in highschool and a dependent has it's downfalls, because that sounds like it'd be rad.

[Krentistthedentist]

Cure. Easy.

Really wish we hadn't retired the KKKarl meme

[Krentistthedentist]

Throne, easy.

Seriously.
SMH @ these uncle krackas.

[Isyourbedmade?]

Oh I think if he plays Lolla he will headline, I just don't think that he is too big for Pitchfork.

I don't think they are to big to headline p4k but I'm hoping for (and i kno this isn't the delegated section for p4k) but I would love Pulp/Jeff Mangum/ Pj Harvey as p4k headliners

or do u think Pulp is a total lolla band?

[johnd12751]

pulp is neither

[Isyourbedmade?]

pulp is neither

how is Pulp neither?

[johnd12751]

cause it's not coachella.

[fiveiron83321]

i'd pick the cure probably

saw kanye at coachella and jay at uofi #nanapost

[WretchedSkye2113]

AND YOU DIDN'T COME SAY HELLO?

[fiveiron83321]

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU EXISTED THEN

[alady]

I wonder how many people who are picking The Cure attended the WTT tour?

And I wonder how many people who are picking the Cure have seen the Cure :P

Oof.

[WretchedSkye2113]

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU EXISTED THEN

WELL FUCK Y-...nevermind, can't say that. even with a <3 at the end.

you know what i mean. :D

[WretchedSkye2113]

I wonder how many people who are picking The Cure attended the WTT tour?

haven't seen either.
would still go Throne as a motherfucker.

[concertgoer]

haven't seen either.
would still go Throne as a motherfucker.

Good man

[Thisismyname]

GO GO GOOOOOO
GO GO GOOOOOOOO
PUSH HIM AWAY

[WretchedSkye2113]

Good man

but having said that,
they would never go Throne (#1) vs Cure (a #2 or a #3)
but i get that this is just for argument's sake.

[arbee]

Pasty white over black every time

[brynrich]

Didn't think about this. Didn't he opt for Pitchfork last year?

Two years ago.

[mgignac]

Just read this quote, for what its worth. From late 2011.


A 2012 tour is also a possibility for Blur, according to NME, who write that Albarn “still gets an ‘amazing feeling’ from playing with Blur and hinted at plans to play live with the band— possibly outside the UK— next year.”

[Krentistthedentist]

Well, they are booked for Sweden so there's that

[MadBird11]

Blur is just as likely as the Cure to play Lolla. And by likely, I mean, not at all.

Quote that when I'm wrong.

[Waffle_Fish]

I just can't see Damon Albarn stepping foot in Grant Park ever. Not as Blur, and certainly not as Gorillaz. C3 is not nearly cool enough to allow it. Maybe at Coachella 2013.

[ChiCity]

DERRRRRRRP

[Krentistthedentist]

Was just listening to Stevie Wonder and thought HEY IT WOULD BE AWESOME IF HE WAS THE ACL CROSSOVER
so let's go through the reasons why Lollapalooza would not book this awesome musical legend
1) too black
2) too old
3) too blind

Let's keep it going, guys.

[nikolajz1]

I cant think of a more boring act to see.

[Audiobully]

I cant think of a more boring act to see.

Bon Iver

[concertgoer]

There are several better dad rock options than Stevie Wonder.

[carligula]

Was just listening to Stevie Wonder and thought HEY IT WOULD BE AWESOME IF HE WAS THE ACL CROSSOVER
so let's go through the reasons why Lollapalooza would not book this awesome musical legend
1) too black
2) too old
3) too blind

Let's keep it going, guys.

Can I add too preachy?

[carligula]

I'm sure this one has been done, right?

JayYe - Metallica - Black Keys
Beck - Florence+The Machine - Swedish House Mafia

[Driftwood]

I wonder how many people who are picking The Cure attended the WTT tour?

Would still pick The Cure.

[Audiobully]

So would Boring Iver headline?

[Driftwood]

Yes.

[mgignac]

Throne + Metallica + The Cure
Beck + Bjork + SHM

No-conflictpalooza!

Metallica vs. Beck
Throne vs. Bjork
SHM vs. The Cure

[concertgoer]

Would still pick The Cure.

I have seen both and WTT would be a better show imo, but I can see why a lot of people would choose The Cure. They are #rare

[Driftwood]

Until we get 5 other names that are as likely to play that are bigger, I'm still going to assume Passion Pit and Florence are headlining to keep expectations low.

Also where is the SHM talk coming from? Just cause electro headliner on the main stage?

[Driftwood]

WTT - Metallica - Jack White
Beck - Florence + The Machine - Passion Pit

That's probably what I'll go with for 65 predictions.

[KevBlu42]

Also where is the SHM talk coming from? Just cause electro headliner on the main stage?

https://twitter.com/#!/SennettReport/status/169132746436907009

[carligula]

Also where is the SHM talk coming from? Just cause electro headliner on the main stage?

https://twitter.com/#!/SennettReport/status/169132746436907009

They're second on their day at Coachella. Everyone seems to think it would be a huge deal to bring them to any state other than NY and CA.

[Driftwood]

Oh totally forgot about that.

[mgignac]

It would fucking baffle me to see Florence billed as a #5 headliner. I think she'll be there though.

[Driftwood]

Well yeah she's almost certainly going to be there. That's my point. Probably the two biggest locks in the top 10 right now are Florence and Passion Pit.

[mgignac]

Well yeah she's almost certainly going to be there. That's my point. Probably the two biggest locks in the top 10 right now are Florence and Passion Pit.

I see Passion Pit as a #6 before I see Florence anywhere on the Top6, but I also see Bon Iver getting the 6 slot so I think both will sub at this point. South stage sub for maybe even The Throne, and she'd draw an obscenely large crowd (IRT Florence obviously)

[mgignac]

Unless Bon Iver is a 5 and Florence or PP is the 6, which at that point, kill me

[Driftwood]

Or Bon Iver plays Pitchfork.

[concertgoer]

I am stilling trying to decide between The Cure and The Black Keys as my #3 headliner.

[carligula]

Oh totally forgot about that.

We get so much more "accomplished" around here when folks like you and SecondSet are posting. Please keep it up.

[carligula]

I am stilling trying to decide between The Cure and The Black Keys as my #3 headliner. No solid evidence of playing the US this year vs. playing overseas in August. I'm going with the latter but would much prefer the former.

[Waffle_Fish]

I still say Bon Iver plays Pitchfork. Even if Dour Fest ends up being the same weekend as pitchfork, they could easily fly back stateside to headline pitchfork, or fly to Germany to headline Dour.

[carligula]

I still say Bon Iver plays Pitchfork. Even if Dour Fest ends up being the same weekend as pitchfork, they could easily fly back stateside to headline pitchfork, or fly to Germany to headline Dour.

I agree with everything but the bolded.

[Waffle_Fish]

If smaller acts can pull it of, Bon Iver can much easier. Especially with all dat Grammy money.

[Broc1123]

Cut Copy played Europe on Friday of Pitchfork last year and then played Pitchfork on Sunday. So there is precedent for it.

[mgignac]

Well that settles it then

[MookieDaddy]

heh

Also, as much as I like the idea of getting 4 or 5 big headliners, I think Drifty is on the right track more than anyone by having Florence or PP as a 5 or 6 unfortunately.

[SecondSet]

Here is my 2 cents on this topic, i know im a newbie but i do know somethings, Perry is going all out for this 20th Anniversary lolla, we have 6 headliners and we need another 6 acts to open for them, so thats 12 top acts we need. here are my top 12
Eminem
Muse
Foo Fighters
The Cure or Coldplay
Janes Addiction
Wilco
Chemical Brothers or Fat Boy Slim or Underworld
Arctic Monkeys
Beastie Boys
Talking Heads or The Smiths
The Black Keys
Smashing Pumpkins

Thanks for the information.

[mgignac]

You know, even if we were all pretty much 100% dead wrong and the lineup was:

Pearl Jam + Stone Roses + Wilco
Smashing Pumpkins + Blur + Jane's Addiction

I'd take it.

[KevBlu42]

Most SHM talk coming from here, I believe.

http://twitter.com/#!/SennettReport/status/169132746436907009

That makes you the third person to post that link on this page.

[mgignac]

smh at shm

[Irving_Red]

Good lineup, but no way Stone Roses are a #2 in the US.

[vargo05]

That makes you the third person to post that link on this page.

I posted it before I saw your post or Carl's. Congratulations on being the first to post it. I hope you get a big award for it.

[mgignac]

1. PJ
2. Wilco
3. Smashing Pumpkins
4. Stone Roses
5. Blur
6. Jane's Addiction

Look a little better?

[Broc1123]

Yeah no reason for the Stone Roses to even come over here with the shows they've booked in the UK.

[Nile19]

derp derp Blur derp derp derp
Looks great!

[MookieDaddy]

You know, even if we were all pretty much 100% dead wrong and the lineup was:

Pearl Jam + Stone Roses + Wilco
Smashing Pumpkins + Blur + Jane's Addiction

I'd take it.

lololololol at Stone Roses being #2 at any US major.
(I know that was a joke suggested lineup anyways).

[mgignac]

I posted it without caring whether or not the information had already been provided. I hope I get an award for this.

.

[nikkirkpatrick]

yeah. lollapalooza is booking the stone roses 2nd. run with that. tell the twitter-sphere. plz.

[mgignac]

yeah. lollapalooza is booking the stone roses 2nd. run with that. tell the twitter-sphere. plz.

You know he may be a "newbie" but he correctly predicted 3 headliners once he knew them last year.

AND HE GOT COLDPLAY RIGHT TOO.

[carligula]

okay, got some info this morning. SHM is headlining NorthCoast with New Order, take them of the lolla list. Metallica will not be at lolla, they have there own fest, you can count Pearl Jam as a headliner for lolla, Bon Iver is headlining friday Pitchfork, Florence can suck it as a number 8 spot at lolla. no wtt at lolla either, the new st paul festival got some nice acts, think pitchfork meets lolla, good crossovers also.
pumpkins, blur, stone roses, animal collective, pearl jam, wilco, janes addiction, beach boys, the xx,

Just to be clear, the only actual information you got were the North Coast headliners and some of the St. Paul fest acts and the rest is just speculation, right? Your post comes across as specifically trying to tell people you know all the Lolla headliners, but it seems like you're mostly guessing.

[vargo05]

.

Does it really matter? All you guys could really take a lead from Carl on being more civilized to people on the board. I noticed KevBlu didn't make a big deal out of Carl's post being the 2nd time it was posted. Why is that? Oh, because Carl is a moderator.

[Broc1123]

heh

Also, as much as I like the idea of getting 4 or 5 big headliners, I think Drifty is on the right track more than anyone by having Florence or PP as a 5 or 6 unfortunately.

I agree with this. 1 of those two has got to be headlining, and I wouldn't be surprised if both did. But those two at 5-6 mean at least the top 3 will be on par with years like 08, 10, and 11 with Beck or Jack White at 4.

[mgignac]

Does it really matter? All you guys could really take a lead from Carl on being more civilized to people on the board. I noticed KevBlu didn't make a big deal out of Carl's post being the 2nd time it was posted. Why is that? Oh, because Carl is a moderator.

You've been on here even longer than me and they haven't quite stopped "hazing" me yet. It's called stop caring.

[nikkirkpatrick]

Does it really matter? All you guys could really take a lead from Carl on being more civilized to people on the board. I noticed KevBlu didn't make a big deal out of Carl's post being the 2nd time it was posted. Why is that? Oh, because Carl is a moderator.

you're right. politics is a thing.

[SecondSet]

"1970Petrus" does not do justice to this man's great wealth of insider information.

As there is a new sheriff in town, I suggest we appropriately decorate him with the title of the Honorable Wyatt Derp.

[vargo05]

I know Mgignac. I let it bug me more than I should.

[SecondSet]

If anyone needs any evidence that this guy is full of shit, you can verify for yourself that the Beach Boys are booked during all dates of both the Harriet Island Fest and (Lol)lapalooza.

[vargo05]

If anyone needs any evidence that this guy is full of shit, you can verify for yourself that the Beach Boys are booked during all dates of both the Harriet Island Fest and (Lol)lapalooza.

Another stellar showing by SecondSet. (Not that we didn't know that guy was full of shit).

[carligula]

If anyone needs any evidence that this guy is full of shit, you can verify for yourself that the Beach Boys are booked during all dates of both the Harriet Island Fest and (Lol)lapalooza.

Have I told you lately that I love you?

[carligula]

I'm sure this post will make the rounds on the other boards, though. Look out inforoo!

[vargo05]

It was there before you typed it.

[concertgoer]

okay, got some info this morning. SHM is headlining NorthCoast with New Order, take them of the lolla list. Metallica will not be at lolla, they have there own fest, you can count Pearl Jam as a headliner for lolla, Bon Iver is headlining friday Pitchfork, Florence can suck it as a number 8 spot at lolla. no wtt at lolla either, the new st paul festival got some nice acts, think pitchfork meets lolla, good crossovers also.
pumpkins, blur, stone roses, animal collective, pearl jam, wilco, janes addiction, beach boys, the xx,

Cool story bro

[KevBlu42]

Does it really matter? All you guys could really take a lead from Carl on being more civilized to people on the board. I noticed KevBlu didn't make a big deal out of Carl's post being the 2nd time it was posted. Why is that? Oh, because Carl is a moderator.

Then you also noticed that Carl's post came one minute after mine. It's probable we were both composing our posts at the same time, only I clicked "post" a few seconds before him. It's hard to fault him for that.

[vargo05]

Then you also noticed that Carl's post came one minute after mine. It's probable we were both composing our posts at the same time, only I clicked "post" a few seconds before him. It's hard to fault him for that.

Just hadn't seen your posts. Once I did, I deleted mine trying to avoid ridicule. That didn't work out. Sorry for taking it personally.

[MookieDaddy]

http://www.frattoys.com/media/catalog/product/cache/6/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/h/u/hug_it_out_lg.jpg

[carligula]

I can tell you guys are making an effort to get along and I appreciate that. I think we all do.

[WretchedSkye2113]

yeesh, 2 pages from just this morning. figured something had leaked. guess not.

so tl;dr most of the new guys are pretty cool except this guy


okay, got some info this morning. SHM is headlining NorthCoast with New Order, take them of the lolla list. Metallica will not be at lolla, they have there own fest, you can count Pearl Jam as a headliner for lolla, Bon Iver is headlining friday Pitchfork, Florence can suck it as a number 8 spot at lolla. no wtt at lolla either, the new st paul festival got some nice acts, think pitchfork meets lolla, good crossovers also.
pumpkins, blur, stone roses, animal collective, pearl jam, wilco, janes addiction, beach boys, the xx,

right?

[MadBird11]

Well that guy is a derp.

So, yeah, I guess.

Even though they all hate me for some reason.

[Irving_Red]

I don't hate you. Just the Beaver.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

I can definitely tell you that New Order will not be at NCMF. Not sure if that was a joke or not...

At least, I've heard nothing of the sort...

[MadBird11]

All four of his posts have been pretty laughable. Should I repost them for everyone?

[MadBird11]

I don't hate you. Just the Beaver.

The instant someone finds me a new avatar, I'll change it.

[WretchedSkye2113]

The instant someone finds me a new avatar, I'll change it.

i actually really appreciate your avatar.
imagining Mel Gibson and a beaver articulate your posts has brought me a lot of laughs.

[mgignac]

The instant someone finds me a new avatar, I'll change it.

I've said it before but I'm unable to picture you in my head as anything other than Mel Gibson condescending to me

[MadBird11]

I've said it before but I'm unable to picture you in my head as anything other than Mel Gibson condescending to me

Do you read Buzz's posts as a manatee?

Cause that's giving him too much credit.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

just for good measure, im going to ask one of the founders of NorthCoast if this is just something I didnt hear yet, but he's probably going to giggle.

[vargo05]

I've said it before but I'm unable to picture you in my head as anything other than Mel Gibson condescending to me

That's funny. I've never met Carl, and due to his avatar, I really believe he looks like that.

[mgignac]

Do you read Buzz's posts as a manatee?

Cause that's giving him too much credit.

No

[alady]

That's funny. I've never met Carl, and due to his avatar, I really believe he looks like that.

He kind of does.

[WretchedSkye2113]

teehee (irl mgig)

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

MadBird... who are all these people? and why do they know my name?

[carligula]

That's funny. I've never met Carl, and due to his avatar, I really believe he looks like that.

That is my goal. In fact, I picture myself that way most of the time.

[carligula]

He kind of does.

Just because I wear a lot of togas and crowns...

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

If Caligula had a beard.... yeah, i could see it.

[carligula]

just for good measure, im going to ask one of the founders of NorthCoast if this is just something I didnt hear yet, but he's probably going to giggle.

Anything to further discredit that post would be much appreciated.

BTW, are you telling us that SHM WILL be there?

[WretchedSkye2113]

That is my goal. In fact, I picture myself that way most of the time.

i admit i was disappointed when we first met. no toga, no malcolm mcdowell clean shaven look, and certainly no horse.

[MadBird11]

MadBird... who are all these people? and why do they know my name?

I dunno.

Are you going to report me for throwing you under the bus?

[nikkirkpatrick]

MadBird... who are all these people? and why do they know my name?

did.gif

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

I dunno.

Are you going to report me for throwing you under the bus?

I would never.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

Anything to further discredit that post would be much appreciated.

BTW, are you telling us that SHM WILL be there?

I cannot confirm or deny that in public. Though I think I'm pretty safe in denying New Order as a completely laughable concept.

I'm well aware of what this year's booking budget for North Coast is like, and while I'm not exactly sure what New Order charges... I'm fairly comfortable ruling them out on cost alone.

again, ill ask someone more familiar than myself for good measure.

[askiba]

Dang, that's kind of disappointing, but not surprising. I would have liked to see New Order.

Also, I just want to clarify. Did we really give up on Radiohead as a headliner...? Not in the US at the end of July, but all the same, with no Chicago date wouldn't they be an obvious possibility?

[MookieDaddy]

There's a strongly rumored June Chicago date for Radiohead. Plus, no other band has headlined the three big majors in the same year. Not going to happen.

[MadBird11]

When is that date supposed to be again?

[MookieDaddy]

I forget in the piles of rumors we've had, but I believe it was around June 8th, and Tinley Park is the rumored spot.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

Dang, that's kind of disappointing, but not surprising. I would have liked to see New Order.

Also, I just want to clarify. Did we really give up on Radiohead as a headliner...? Not in the US at the end of July, but all the same, with no Chicago date wouldn't they be an obvious possibility?

There's really no logic that arrives at New Order from having David Guetta on the top line last year....

North Coast is a jamtronica festival. New Order doesn't even fit the conventional mold that has sold out the park for them the last two years.

I'm a huge New Order fan btw... but that seems pretty unlikely to me.

[WretchedSkye2113]

given up? not at all.
i think a lot of us are expecting another leg to be announced soon including a Chicago date.

they were a #1 in 08 and would be a #1 again this year- meaning we'd have a repeat #1, they have only had one album (with 8 tracks) be released since their last headlining show, and it's only been 4 years- which seems a bit early.

not impossible at all, but it wouldn't be the most unique booking on C3's part. especially when RH is already headlining Coachella and Bonnaroo. at that point it would make RH seem very un#rare and the trendy festival whores aka The Black Keys.

[carligula]

It took them 6 years to return to Bonnaroo and it's only been 4 since the last Lolla appearance.

[alady]

i admit i was disappointed when we first met. no toga, no malcolm mcdowell clean shaven look, and certainly no horse.

I like this post.

[Krentistthedentist]

I've said it before but I'm unable to picture you in my head as anything other than Mel Gibson condescending to me

Yeah it just blows my mind that madbird is "a thug" over here.

[askiba]

Double dang. I was really looking forward to not have to deal with buying stadium tickets. Already dodged that bullet with RHCP (lame) and Black Keys (seen them twice)

[nikkirkpatrick]

I forget in the piles of rumors we've had, but I believe it was around June 8th, and Tinley Park is the rumored spot.

juse 3 i believe

[mgignac]

We'd pretty much collectively given up on TBK a month or so ago, but they're creeping back into the picture, eh? Seen them in people's potentials lately.

Threw them back in my Top 6 for the 65 for shits and giggles.

1. The Throne

2. Metallica
3. The Black Keys
4. Jack White
5. Beck
6. Passion Pit

[MadBird11]

I forget in the piles of rumors we've had, but I believe it was around June 8th, and Tinley Park is the rumored spot.

I think I'm going to that then.

Mostly because I'm too broke to go to Roo and it's 5 minutes from my house.

Some of you on here better go with me cause fuck if I'm dealing with all the douchebags from my high school in the lawn seats.

[concertgoer]

Yeah it just blows my mind that madbird is "a thug" over here.

Yeah it's pretty sad

[MadBird11]

I don't think I'm aiming to be.

Oh well, whatever.

[askiba]

I was happy with The Black Keys being forgotten, so I didn't mention it :)

[WretchedSkye2113]

We'd pretty much collectively given up on TBK a month or so ago, but they're creeping back into the picture, eh? Seen them in people's potentials lately.


they're hitting the midwest pretty hard soon.
it's early enough in the year that they can't be ruled out by any means, especially for a band who never fucking stops touring,
but it still might suggest that they have no plans for later this year. maybe a post-coachella break?


edit: who am i kidding? they already announced they're working on new material.

[KevBlu42]

I've pretty much narrowed my #3 slot down to either RHCP, TBK or No Doubt. There are arguments to be made for and against each act, so I think it's pretty much a toss-up at this point.

[mgignac]

they're hitting the midwest pretty hard soon.
it's early enough in the year that they can't be ruled out by any means, especially for a band who never fucking stops touring,
but it still might suggest that they have no plans for later this year. maybe a post-coachella break?


edit: who am i kidding? they already announced they're working on new material.

Yeah yeah I know all that (actually have tickets to one of the shows, so I can rule them out as a conflict if they headline), I'd just rather not see them on the lineup again I guess.

Which is going against what I just said cause I suppose in the end I'd rather have no conflict but aghghg

[mgignac]

I've pretty much narrowed my #3 slot down to either RHCP, TBK and No Doubt. There are arguments to be made for and against each act, so I think it's pretty much a toss-up at this point.

Fuck I had completely forgotten about them, thanks a lot

[WretchedSkye2113]

one would hope RHCP and TBK are ruled out because overkill and spring shows. but alas...

we can still hold on for some surprise, right?
cure, bjork, etc.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

1. The Cure

2. RHCP
3. Bjork
4. Beck
5. Jane's Addiction
6. Swedish House Mafia

I'm right... screw the pop headliner!

[JML]

Well, good luck with that Jane's prediction

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

Well, good luck with that Jane's prediction

Thats really the only one that I'm pretty sure about actually.

[carligula]

Perry said they wouldn't be playing this year, right?

[mgignac]

I honestly feel like if they book The Throne it gives them enough of a draw to be creative with the rest of the lineup and have someone like The Cure or Bjork that isn't insanely popular with any specific stereotype today.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

Confirmed. No New Order.

A founder of North Coast just called me 'silly beans.'

[concertgoer]

Perry said they wouldn't be playing this year, right?

I think it was either Perry or Dave

[mgignac]

He's also seemed way more interested in the small theater/club shows as of late

Soundwise I couldn't even gauge his singing tbh, but their Metro show in Sept. kicked ass

[Broc1123]

Thats really the only one that I'm pretty sure about actually.

Oh god. Really???

[concertgoer]

Oh god. Really???

Don't worry they aren't playing.

[carligula]

Confirmed. No New Order.

A founder of North Coast just called me 'silly beans.'

Talk doesn't get more real than that. Thanks for the added dirt over this troll's coffin.

[mgignac]

Not fueling his fire whatsoever, mere curiosity- the Beach Boys have a 0% fit at Lollapalooza, is that a correct statement?

[nikkirkpatrick]

1. The Cure

2. RHCP
3. Bjork
4. Beck
5. Jane's Addiction
6. Swedish House Mafia

I'm right... screw the pop headliner!

shm is the pop headliner.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

Perry said they wouldn't be playing this year, right?

Wait, i haven't heard that.... i haz a sad?

[Broc1123]

Don't worry they aren't playing.

Thought someone might interpret this as me thinking Buzz has any idea what he is talking about.

This was more of a "you're really going to take this stance buzz?"

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

Thought someone might interpret this as me thinking Buzz has any idea what he is talking about.

This was more of a "you're really going to take this stance buzz?"

im still catching up on this, what was said, where wha...?

i just keep hearing that janes has aftershows brewing in chicago.... obviously this is leading me to believe that they'll play the fest, and as per usual.. they'd headline if they did.

tell me the news broc. point me to a link or something...

[Broc1123]

im still catching up on this, what was said, where wha...?

i just keep hearing that janes has aftershows brewing in chicago.... obviously this is leading me to believe that they'll play the fest, and as per usual.. they'd headline if they did.

tell me the news broc. point me to a link or something...

I'm too lazy to find you the link. But Perry or Dave said somewhere that they wouldn't be playing the fest but would probably be in Chicago that weekend. Also that they are playing Brasil like Chile last year cuz he likes the idea of christening the festival with Jane's playing.

Am I correct to those who read it?

[mgignac]

I'm too lazy to find you the link. But Perry or Dave said somewhere that they wouldn't be playing the fest but would probably be in Chicago that weekend. Also that they are playing Brasil like Chile last year cuz he likes the idea of christening the festival with Jane's playing.

Am I correct to those who read it?

I don't recall him literally saying they'd be in Chicago for the weekend (though he might have, and Perry's presence that weekend is usually a given), but the rest of that is what was said, yes.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

I really can't imagine Janes playing in Chicago the weekend of Lolla... and not playing Lolla. That just sounds wrong right off the bat.

[nanatod]

mere curiosity- the Beach Boys have a 0% fit at Lollapalooza, is that a correct statement?

"help me rhonda" is so indie.

[KevBlu42]

I'm too lazy to find you the link. But Perry or Dave said somewhere that they wouldn't be playing the fest but would probably be in Chicago that weekend. Also that they are playing Brasil like Chile last year cuz he likes the idea of christening the festival with Jane's playing.

Am I correct to those who read it?

That's how I remember it. Though the aftershow rumors might have been fueled by @LollaLeaks claiming they would do an aftershow with Smashing Pumpkins.

[concertgoer]

Yeah I think that lollaleaks was the source of that Janes aftershow info

[Broc1123]

I hate not being able to tell the difference between actual rumors and people just going off of lollaleaks and saying they are "hearing from sources" stuff.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

oh god. anything lollaleaks has anything to do with is an automatic fail.

guess im changing a headliner. seemed too soon for another janes performance anyway.

hrrrmmmm who am i going to choose now? (dont you dare say metallica!)

in fact, i may get rid of Beck too...

[KevBlu42]

All that said, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jane's do a kick-off show at the Vic or some place like that since they skipped Chicago on their theater tour. Perry probably knows their draw is dwindling so he doesn't want to hurt the festival by taking up one of the headlining slots.

[carligula]

I really can't imagine Janes playing in Chicago the weekend of Lolla... and not playing Lolla. That just sounds wrong right off the bat.

As wrong as Them Crooked Vultures doing the same?

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

All that said, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jane's do a kick-off show at the Vic or some place like that since they skipped Chicago on their theater tour. Perry probably knows their draw is dwindling so he doesn't want to hurt the festival by taking up one of the headlining slots.

No dude. No.

Janes isn't dragging their gear and crew half way across the continent for a "kick off" show at The Vic. They wont even make the gas money, if they sold it out.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

As wrong as Them Crooked Vultures doing the same?

Supergroup's first appearance is a little different than Perry dragging Jane's all the way to Chicago, to make virtually nothing.

[nikkirkpatrick]

I'm too lazy to find you the link. But Perry or Dave said somewhere that they wouldn't be playing the fest but would probably be in Chicago that weekend. Also that they are playing Brasil like Chile last year cuz he likes the idea of christening the festival with Jane's playing.

Am I correct to those who read it?

if this was said, jane's was quiet about playing in '09 and didn't announce what day they were playing, like headliners mostly do.

[MookieDaddy]

Found the article (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/perry-farrell-janes-addiction-tour-inspired-by-boardwalk-empire-era-20120131) where Perry said they aren't doing festivals

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

The band is focused entirely on this theater concept, to the point Farrell says they're skipping the American festival circuit this summer, including Lollapalooza in Chicago, which he founded. "We're not gonna play it, but that's not to say that we won't be in Chicago,

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/perry-farrell-janes-addiction-tour-inspired-by-boardwalk-empire-era-20120131#ixzz1nENHtlja


i think he means that they will just 'be' here... as they always are. Doesn't mean at all that they're playing a show.

[Krentistthedentist]

This is not the first time Dj Peretz has hinted at an aftershow.
He did so in 2010 and that did not happen,obviously.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

Ok, Im editing... but I really don't know who to put in these slots...
Removing RHCP too. They're playing the Allstate in May... That plus their schedule makes them highly unlikely for Lolla.

1. The Cure

2.
3. Bjork
4. Beck
5.
6. Swedish House Mafia

[MookieDaddy]

You know we're getting TBK now matter what, might as well toss them in there.

[Audiobully]

You're forgetting Metallica.

[Five_Hole]

No dude. No.

Janes isn't dragging their gear and crew half way across the continent for a "kick off" show at The Vic. They wont even make the gas money, if they sold it out.

They're dragging (or yachting) their crew and gear to South America for two shows. And nobody is saying it has to be a one off. I could be the start (or finish) to a tour as they appear to only be doing the mid-west and east coast on their current tour.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

You know we're getting TBK now matter what, might as well toss them in there.

You know... I was thinking this... but I can't decide whether they'd get a headlining spot or not...

I really think their slot at Coachella was a fluke.

[Five_Hole]

You know... I was thinking this... but I can't decide whether they get a headlining spot or not...

I really think their slot at Coachella was a fluke.

You can't decide if the band playing the United Center on their current tour would get a headlining spot?

[Miller]

You know... I was thinking this... but I can't decide whether they get a headlining spot or not...

I really think their slot at Coachella was a fluke.

Their billing at roo last year, though?


Edit:

You can't decide if the band playing the United Center on their current tour would get a headlining spot?

Way better argument.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

They're dragging (or yachting) their crew and gear to South America for two shows for a contract worth millions of dollars.

ftfy

[Broc1123]

You're kidding, right?

irt buzz of course.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

You can't decide if the band playing the United Center on their current tour would get a headlining spot?

yeah, i know... it's just killing me to think it.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

You're kidding, right?

irt buzz of course.

i have no idea which comment you are referring to. learn to quote things.

[WretchedSkye2113]

i have no idea which comment you are referring to. learn to quote things.

pretty sure it's applicable for all of your posts ever.

[Broc1123]

i have no idea which comment you are referring to. learn to quote things.

The one where you said The Black Keys headlining Coachella was a fluke. After they've almost entirely sold out a gigantic arena tour.

[concertgoer]

The one where you said The Black Keys headlining Coachella was a fluke. After they've almost entirely sold out a gigantic arena tour.

I can't remember where I read it, but supposedly The Keys were always booked to headline and Dre and Snoop were the last minute replacement for Sabbath. Snoop did cancel some tour dates right after the Coachella lineup dropped so it might very well be accurate.

[WretchedSkye2113]

I can't remember where I read it, but supposedly The Keys were always booked to headline and Dre and Snoop were the last minute replacement for Sabbath. Snoop did cancel some tour dates right after the Coachella lineup dropped so it might very well be accurate.

this just makes me WTFGV? even more, but i believe it.

[Broc1123]

That's what I thought all along.

The Keys have a whole tour with Arctic Monkeys planned around the fest.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

The one where you said The Black Keys headlining Coachella was a fluke. After they've almost entirely sold out a gigantic arena tour.

you're right... im the only one that thinks their jump to headlining the #1 festival in America is a little lofty despite their recent blowup. :/

[mgignac]

What was Metallica's "bad reaction" that people keep talking about from whatever year they played (1996 unless they've been back since)? I just don't know anything about it.

[mgignac]

you're right... im the only one that thinks their jump to headlining the #1 festival in America is a little lofty despite their recent blowup. :/

What "jump" are you talking about? They've gradually worked their way up and 6 or 7 albums into their career, are finally getting headlining slots. I don't see why people are all of a sudden like "omg black keys are headlining?!?".....It's not like they were 2PMers in 2010.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

What "jump" are you talking about? They've gradually worked their way up and 6 or 7 albums into their career, are finally getting headlining slots. I don't see why people are all of a sudden like "omg black keys are headlining?!?".....It's not like they were 2PMers in 2010.

they just subbed the same festival last year.

[mgignac]

they just subbed the same festival last year.

So what?

[Driftwood]

Yeah but it's been the last two albums that's changed things. There's going to be plenty of acts int he 4:30 / 6:30 range that are going to stay there.

[mgignac]

Yeah but it's been the last two albums that's changed things. There's going to be plenty of acts int he 4:30 / 6:30 range that are going to stay there.

I'm not arguing with this at all

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

Yeah but it's been the last two albums that's changed things. There's going to be plenty of acts int he 4:30 / 6:30 range that are going to stay there.

Their rise has been astonishing... that's all I'm sayin....

[Broc1123]

you're right... im the only one that thinks their jump to headlining the #1 festival in America is a little lofty despite their recent blowup. :/

I'm not saying headlining Coachella wasn't a little of a surprise. But they are definitely big enough. How could they possibly be iffy to be top 6 at Lolla?

[mgignac]

Their rise has been astonishing... that's all I'm sayin....

That's just what I don't get at all. What is the least bit surprising about a band that's been on the scene for 10 years getting radio play and gaining some popularity? They wrote some more popularly-accessible music. And coming from a Black Keys fan, which I'm sure you're not and that's fine, their last two albums have absolutely been their best.

[Driftwood]

Last two albums have been meh. You can be a Black Keys fan and have that opinion.

[Broc1123]

The last two albums have been in line with their past albums as far as quality.

[Krentistthedentist]

Brothers was not meh but El Camino definitely is

[mgignac]

Last two albums have been meh. You can be a Black Keys fan and have that opinion.

Not saying you can't, and I particularly enjoy Thickfreakness and Rubber Factory, but the last two albums have really hit me as different. I used to not be able to stand how "every song sounded the same", and I still feel that way about certain parts of their older stuff...the two newer ones had the most variety for me.

[mgignac]

Brothers was not meh but El Camino definitely is

Like the Coldplay conversation we had earlier...

Brothers is a great ALBUM. El Camino just has some good songs.

[Driftwood]

Next Girl is one of the most boring Black Keys songs.

[mgignac]

Next Girl is one of the most boring Black Keys songs.

Everlasting Light is easily in my top 3 TBK songs in their entire discog though.

[Driftwood]

Oh man totally disagree.

Also never really found their songs to be all that samey.

[concertgoer]

Sorry guys, but El Camino is better than Brothers.

[WretchedSkye2113]

BuzzKillpalooza 2012:

Pearl Jam * Rage Against the Machine * Metallica
Soundgarden * Tool * Nine Inch Nails

(how the fuck would you bill that?)

[WretchedSkye2113]

Sorry guys, but El Camino is better than Brothers.

seriously.

[Broc1123]

It depends what mood I'm in.

I think Brothers is a better album though. I went back to that all last year while I haven't listened to El Camino at all this year. Got over it really quick.

[Krentistthedentist]

BuzzKillpalooza 2012:

Pearl Jam * Rage Against the Machine * Metallica
Soundgarden * Tool * Nine Inch Nails

(how the fuck would you bill that?)

Metallica * Pearl Jam * Nine Inch Nails
Rage Against the Machine * Tool * Soundgarden

[Krentistthedentist]

i put nin @ 3 cos reunion

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

Metallica * Pearl Jam * Nine Inch Nails
Rage Against the Machine * Tool * Soundgarden

Under no circumstances.

[El Goodo]

Sorry guys, but El Camino is better than Brothers.

I'm no math, but the level of inaccuracy is literally incalculable.

[WretchedSkye2113]

i put nin @ 3 cos reunion

hmmmmmm with that lineup though, me thinks Rage needs to be top 3 just because Rage.
and i put PJ at #1 because of that odd Roo lineup with metallica.

[Driftwood]

BuzzKillpalooza 2012:

Pearl Jam * Rage Against the Machine * Metallica
Soundgarden * Tool * Nine Inch Nails

(how the fuck would you bill that?)


Pearl Jam / Metallica / Rage / Tool / NIN / Soundgarden

Switch Rage and Metallica if it's not part of a giant tour.

Switch Tool and NIN if it's a comeback show for NIN.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

you guize. the black keys are terrible.

[Driftwood]

Is Metallica one just because new #1 for lolla ktd?

[vargo05]

I like El Camino and Brothers both just fine, but for my money, I'll listen to Attack and Release and Rubber Factory over those two.

[WretchedSkye2113]

Pearl Jam / Metallica / Rage / Tool / NIN / Soundgarden

Switch Rage and Metallica if it's not part of a giant tour.

Switch Tool and NIN if it's a comeback show for NIN.

this makes good sense to me.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

Is Metallica one just because new #1 for lolla ktd?

metallica is hardly #1 on their own fest...

[WretchedSkye2113]

Is Metallica one just because new #1 for lolla ktd?

yes.

[vargo05]

Is Metallica one just because new #1 for lolla ktd?

I think they're number one because they have a song called "One".

[El Goodo]

I like El Camino and Brothers both just fine, but for my money, I'll listen to Attack and Release and Rubber Factory over those two.

+2 Vargo$.

[El Goodo]

I think they're number one because they have a song called "One".

-2 Vargo$.

[Driftwood]

I already said that learntoreado. Give me $2.

[vargo05]

+2 Vargo$.

I expected crucifixion for that opinion. Let down again.

[concertgoer]

seriously.

I think I am going to see them at Coachella unless they are against someone #rare.

[Driftwood]

Don't Pearl Jam have a song called One? Oh right that's Creed.

[El Goodo]

I already said that learntoreado. Give me $2.

You don't need the buxx, because of your 'notoriety' on the board.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

You don't need the buxx, because of your 'notoriety' on the board.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUEMmd9pg9Y

[carligula]

BuzzKillpalooza 2012:

Pearl Jam * Rage Against the Machine * Metallica
Soundgarden * Tool * Nine Inch Nails

(how the fuck would you bill that?)

Are these the Lollapalooza 20th Anniversary headliners?! Oh wait, that was Eminem and Deadmau5.

[WretchedSkye2113]

Don't Pearl Jam have a song called One? Oh right that's Creed.

PJ has a song called "Once."

i know that's not what you were getting at. but just fyi.

[carligula]

Don't Pearl Jam have a song called One? Oh right that's Creed.

Even though I hate you for this, I gotta admit that's a good one.

[WretchedSkye2113]

I think I am going to see them at Coachella unless they are against someone #rare.

if they're against Refused or Amon Tobin, then no.
otherwise, probably yeah.

[carligula]

metallica is hardly #1 on their own fest...

Are you saying Avenged Sevenfold and Arctic Monkeys come close to Metallica in terms of popularity? Seriously?! This seems a bit troll-y.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

if they're against Refused or Amon Tobin, then no.
otherwise, probably yeah.

if who are against Amon Tobin or Refused? TBK?

[WretchedSkye2113]

Are these the Lollapalooza 20th Anniversary headliners?! Oh wait, that was Eminem and Deadmau5.

right?

[WretchedSkye2113]

if who are against Amon Tobin or Refused? TBK?

yeah.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

Are you saying Avenged Sevenfold and Arctic Monkeys come close to Metallica in terms of popularity? Seriously?! This seems a bit troll-y.

you could call it that if you want...