It Starts Now: Volume Four - 2012 Lollapalooza Headliner Speculation

[MadBird11]

I'm outvoted, ok.

Seriously, no Chilis at Lolla ever again.

[c1916]

If only it were that easy.

[johnd12751]

RHCP*Metallica* Kanye
Racounters* Pixies* Black Keys

RHCP vs Pixies
Metallica vs Black Keys
Racounters vs Kanye

[Audiobully]

Metallica's not playing Lollapalooza.

[nikkirkpatrick]

neither is Ice Cube, Primus or Living Color.

[oasisfan]

I feel like Metallica stands a pretty good chance, but I really want to believe that it will be Rage Against The Machine. I think it becomes very possible if they come out with a new album this year.

[nikolajz1]

Rage won't be coming back and they really have no reason to. I don't think the festival wants to risk people dying again lol.

[oasisfan]

if your up front at a rage show and you honestly think its gonna be safe, maybe you deserve death just a random thought tho

[nikkirkpatrick]

people risk dying by walking outside everyday. rage against the machine doesn't do anything to add to that.

[sleeping]

Rage won't be coming back and they really have no reason to. I don't think the festival wants to risk people dying again lol.
They let Manchester Orchestra back. . .

[Audiobully]

neither is Ice Cube, Primus or Living Color.

they have a way better shot then the band Perry loathes.

[dij22]

My monthly guess/expansion:

Metallica * The Cure * Kanye West
Phish * Wilco * Vampire Weekend
Drake * Yeah Yeah Yeahs * The Shins * Norah Jones
Animal Collective * George Clinton & Parliament Funkadelic
The Offspring * Bon Iver * The Avett Brothers * Wiz Khalifa
Robyn * Kaiser Chiefs * Mastodon * Dirty Projectors

Mastodon > The Offspring > (George Clinton) > Metallica vs. Kaiser Chiefs > The Shins > (DJ) > Vampire Weekend
Dirty Projectors > Yeah Yeah Yeahs > (Robyn) > The Cure vs. The Avett Brothers > Norah Jones > (DJ) > Wilco
Wiz Khalifa > Drake > (Bon Iver) > Kanye West vs. Animal Collective > (DJ) > Phish

[oasisfan]

I feel like thats too heavy on rap but i still love it

[WampireVeekend]

just another random, slightly educated guess


Jay Z | Blink 182 | Beck
Bjork | Death Cab For Cutie | Vampire Weekend
The Shins | Drake | Animal Collective | Broken Social Scene
Jimmy Eat World | Bon Iver | Primus | 311 | Dispatch | Santigold
Say Anything | The Kooks | Thurston Moore | Robyn | M83

Thurston Moore => Primus => (Animal Collective) => Beck
vs
The Kooks => Bon Iver => (DJ) => Death Cab For Cutie

Dispatch => Jimmy Eat World => (Say Anything) => Blink 182
vs
Santigold => Broken Social Scene => (DJ) => Bjork

311 => Drake => (Robyn) => Jay Z
vs
M83 => The Shins => (DJ) => Vampire Weekend

[WampireVeekend]

and i already realize that i put BSS too high

[oasisfan]

oh how i hope that you are wrong cuz that would be a very boring weekend to me

[brynrich]

They let Manchester Orchestra back. . .

What will this year's death set be?

[oasisfan]

What will this year's death set be?

the Happiness Club

[johnd12751]

time for an out there guess:

RUSH* blink-182* Lil Wayne
Stone Temple Pilots* Modest Mouse * Passion Pit*



Drake -> Lil Wayne vs. Stone Temple Pilots <- Queens of the Stone Age
30 STM ->Blink 182 vs Passion Pit <- Sublime with Rome
Slash -> Rush vs Modest Mouse <- Silversun Pickups

[brynrich]

Noooooooooooooooooooooot happening

[oasisfan]

Lil Wayne and Stone Temple Pilots are both too high aren't they?

[Irving_Red]

Kanye and Jay-Z * Radiohead * R.E.M.
Blink-182 * Vampire Weekend * Passion Pit
Drake * Primus * Modest Mouse * The Shins * The Hives * Adele
Bon Iver * Kaiser Chiefs * Silversun Pickups * Yeah Yeah Yeahs * Wiz Khalifa * A Fine Frenzy *

A Fine Frenzy>Modest Mouse>Vampire Weekend - Kanye/Jay-Z<Drake<Wiz Khalifa
Kaiser Chiefs>The Hives>Blink-182 - R.E.M.<The Shins<Bon Iver
Yeah Yeah Yeahs>Adele>Passion Pit - Radiohead<Primus<Silversun Pickups


Oh, and Lil Wayne is always too high : P

[oasisfan]

well you placed him perfectly on your lineup which i love but won't happen

[Osama's Step-son]

I think The Black Keys, releasing a new album at the end of the year, and Blink 182 are two bands that will in all likelyhood be headliners next year.

[WampireVeekend]

Kanye and Jay-Z * Radiohead * R.E.M.
Blink-182 * Vampire Weekend * Passion Pit
Drake * Primus * Modest Mouse * The Shins * The Hives * Adele
Bon Iver * Kaiser Chiefs * Silversun Pickups * Yeah Yeah Yeahs * Wiz Khalifa * A Fine Frenzy *

A Fine Frenzy>Modest Mouse>Vampire Weekend - Kanye/Jay-Z<Drake<Wiz Khalifa
Kaiser Chiefs>The Hives>Blink-182 - R.E.M.<The Shins<Bon Iver
Yeah Yeah Yeahs>Adele>Passion Pit - Radiohead<Primus<Silversun Pickups


Oh, and Lil Wayne is always too high : P

there is no way the YYYs headline in 09 and 3 years later drop to 16. also, Kanye/Jay Z and Radiohead make for an extremely expensive top 2.

[WampireVeekend]

I think The Black Keys, releasing a new album at the end of the year, and Blink 182 are two bands that will in all likelyhood be headliners next year.

im thinking the Keys will be there too. most likely in the 4th or 5th spot? and then i think we finally wont see them for a few years at lolla

[oasisfan]

irt to the yeah yeah yeahs what have they done in those 3 years though? put out a mediocre at best album? they wouldn't be in the top 6 with a year like that. switch them with maybe primus or bon iver and thats about where they belong. also that top 6 is kinda what they did this year with 4 heavy hitters and 2 average fest headliners. granted the top 3 there is bigger than em, foos, and coldplay but blink isn't as big as muse so in theory this lineup is possible

[Osama's Step-son]

Yeah and Blink 182 would be 3 or 4

[nikolajz1]

irt to the yeah yeah yeahs what have they done in those 3 years though? put out a mediocre at best album? they wouldn't be in the top 6 with a year like that. switch them with maybe primus or bon iver and thats about where they belong. also that top 6 is kinda what they did this year with 4 heavy hitters and 2 average fest headliners. granted the top 3 there is bigger than em, foos, and coldplay but blink isn't as big as muse so in theory this lineup is possible

YYY"S last album was their most popular and in 2007 they were higher than you have them. If they ever play again, they'll either have a 75 minute subheadlining spot or a headlining spot.

Also in terms of next year I think it is looking somewhat likely that this could happen

Radiohead- Jay Z and Kanye West- Red Hot Chili Peppers
The Black Keys- Blink 182- Vampire Weekend (or Death Cab)

Radiohead vs Blink 182
RHCP vs. The Black Keys
Jay Z and Kanye vs. Vampire Weekend.

[oasisfan]

YYY"S last album was their most popular and in 2007 they were higher than you have them. If they ever play again, they'll either have a 75 minute subheadlining spot or a headlining spot.

Also in terms of next year I think it is looking somewhat likely that this could happen

Radiohead- Jay Z and Kanye West- Red Hot Chili Peppers
The Black Keys- Blink 182- Vampire Weekend (or Death Cab)

Radiohead vs Blink 182
RHCP vs. The Black Keys
Jay Z and Kanye vs. Vampire Weekend.

wouldn't switching them with Primus make them a subheadliner? i'm not saying they would be a midcard level act i just don't think that with a year like the one proposed or even the one you suggest i don't see how they could be a headliner in that situation. Also wouldn't blink be above the black keys?

[nikolajz1]

wouldn't switching them with Primus make them a subheadliner? i'm not saying they would be a midcard level act i just don't think that with a year like the one proposed or even the one you suggest i don't see how they could be a headliner in that situation. Also wouldn't blink be above the black keys?

Not that it really matters, but I dont think they'd be above the Keys at Lolla. The Black Keys are approaching Arcade Fire status in the festival world. 4th at Roo

[oasisfan]

well no i guess it doesn't necessarily matter either way but I think despite the rising popularity of The Black Keys, Blink 182 would get the higher bill. Aren't they supposed to be coming out with a new album too?

[Caseysitsallgood]

well no i guess it doesn't necessarily matter either way but I think despite the rising popularity of The Black Keys, Blink 182 would get the higher bill. Aren't they supposed to be coming out with a new album too?

this fall. just released the first single.

[oasisfan]

well depending on popularity of the album i feel they would get the higher booking

[NUzsilva2014]

time for an out there guess:

RUSH* blink-182* Lil Wayne
Stone Temple Pilots* Modest Mouse * Passion Pit*


People need to stop with Passion Pit as a headliner. Seriously. No.

[joelmanfu]

Red Hot Chili Peppers - Jay-Z - The Killers
blink-182 - Wilco - Jane's Addiction

Lupe Fiasco < Jay-Z vs. Jane's Addiction > Primus
Franz Ferdinand < The Killers vs. blink-182 > Weezer
Incubus < Red Hot Chili Peppers vs. Wilco > Fleet Foxes

[Irving_Red]

That lineup is actually fairly believable, although I can't see Jane's Addiction headlining. I mean, if they aren't doing the goddamn 20th anniversary, why would they do the 21st? Actually, typing this, I realize they might since Lollapalooza can then legally drink... Also I don't see Weezer as subbing. They'd be 5th or 6th if anything.

[Caseysitsallgood]

Also I don't see Weezer as subbing. They'd be 5th or 6th if anything.

Weezer opened for Blink for half their 09 tour...

[Irving_Red]

I wasn't aware of that, so my bad. But I was under the impression they were more popular/mainstream than, say, MMJ or deadmau5.

[nikolajz1]

Well they suck now...there's always that?

[oasisfan]

if you try to not remember that they made the blue album and pinkerton it doesn't hurt as bad to see what they've become

[Krentistthedentist]

Weezer opened for Blink for half their 09 tour...

lul.
HEY GUYS MUSE OPENED FOR MCR WHO IS OPENING FOR BLINK GUESS THEY SHOULDNT BE HEADLINING LOLLAPALOOZA.

my god, how do you function with that brain of yours?

[brynrich]

It's full of Casey's General Store pizza.

[Caseysitsallgood]

lul.
HEY GUYS MUSE OPENED FOR MCR WHO IS OPENING FOR BLINK GUESS THEY SHOULDNT BE HEADLINING LOLLAPALOOZA.

my god, how do you function with that brain of yours?

Muse opened for mcr? on a tour? that's ridiculous.

[sleeping]

Muse opened for mcr? on a tour? that's ridiculous.
It was technically a double bill, but one band had to play first and that band happened to be Muse.

[thelastonealive]

It was the same for that Weezer/Blink tour...co-headliners, Weezer just went on first. I believe it's also supposed to be the same for the Weezer/Flaming Lips shows this summer, Weezer will clearly draw more people, but they're playing first in a co-headlining setup because of the mess Flaming Lips makes on stage. Or at least that's what I've heard, anyway.

[fan o gano]

Ok, I'll make a guess.

R.E.M. * Adele * Blink 182 * The Black Keys * Mumford & Sons * Justice

Hopefully it's not that bad though. I guess there's always plan B.

David Bowie* Beyonce * Beck * Bjork * Blur * Beastie Boys

[thelastonealive]

B-apalooza. I like.

[sleeping]

Bobbababooba

[Driftwood]

Ok, I'll make a guess.

R.E.M. * Adele * Blink 182 * The Black Keys * Mumford & Sons * Justice

Hopefully it's not that bad though. I guess there's always plan B.

David Bowie* Beyonce * Beck * Bjork * Blur * Beastie Boys

He isn't big enough the headline in the US.

[Leyser]

He isn't big enough the headline in the US.

There was an outrage when he was announced to be subbing the biggest pop festival in the UK. I can't imagine how horrible it would be if he headlined Lolla.

[Audiobully]

I would do cartwheels if he headlined lollapalooza

[Krentistthedentist]

Way Out West made me realize that a fest can book all pop headliners and stil be awesome, so hopefully Lolla might still have a good lineup again some day even if they continue down this road.

[hbankhead]

After listening to their new album, I think Incubus could be a sub-headliner. Maybe a #6 headliner...

[Driftwood]

You had to listen to the album to make that conclusion?

[hbankhead]

Based on the shift in their musical sound with this album, yes.

[RebelliousLies]

People liked Incubus' new album? Everyone I talk to about it hates it, and I'm not a big fan, either.

[oasisfan]

It's not as good as Light Grenades but i like the album

[Thisismyname]

I think he's saying the opposite.

He's saying they could now be a sub, which before this album they would have been a headliner.

I don't know if I agree (mainly because I don't care), but I would assume that's what he was saying.

Keep up, kiddies.

[RebelliousLies]

Ahhh, thanks for clarifying.

[oasisfan]

oh well that makes sense then

[Krentistthedentist]

Incubus fucking sucks so they could headline Lollapalooza.

[ferro_man]

time for an out there guess:

RUSH* blink-182* Lil Wayne
Stone Temple Pilots* Modest Mouse * Passion Pit*



Drake -> Lil Wayne vs. Stone Temple Pilots <- Queens of the Stone Age
30 STM ->Blink 182 vs Passion Pit <- Sublime with Rome
Slash -> Rush vs Modest Mouse <- Silversun Pickups

can't tell if serious

[IAmScareMongering]

I get the feeling that I'll never be attending Lollapalooza again.

[hbankhead]

Incubus fucking sucks so they could headline Lollapalooza.

Yea, no. To the sucks part.

[nikolajz1]

Yea, no. To the sucks part.

No, yes they do suck.

[hbankhead]

And back and forth we shall go...

[nikolajz1]

:p

[MadBird11]

I get the feeling that I'll never be attending Lollapalooza again.

This guy.

[nikolajz1]

Katy Perry next year please!

[nanatod]

I get the feeling that I'll never be attending Lollapalooza again.

I get the feeling that I'll never be attending a Lollapalooza held in the U.S. again.

[MadBird11]

Well, we'll always have Pitchfork. Unless that goes to shit too, in which case I already call stowing away in nana's suitcase to Chile.

[carligula]

It was technically a double bill, but one band had to play first and that band happened to be Muse.

Do some research. They played 7 or 8 songs a night on that tour. They were a support act. A couple months later they headlined Lollapalooza and a few months later, they were bumped from pre-headliners to headliners when White Stripes bailed on ACLfest.

[Thisismyname]

AWSNAP, CARLSLAMMED

[MadBird11]

Commandant Carl might be my hero.

[oasisfan]

why do people want lil wayne? or why are they speculating him? possibly best question why is he popular?

[nikolajz1]

Lil Wayne sucks

[concertgoer]

Pretty much

[MadBird11]

So what you're saying is he's basically a lock for 2012?

[concertgoer]

Nah he is too hood for Lolla;)

[concertgoer]

R.E.M. RHCP, Blink 182
Bjork, Fleet Foxes Vampire Weekend

R.E.M. vs VW
RHCP vs Fleet Foxes
Blink vs Bjork

[MadBird11]

Forgot about that rule.

[nikkirkpatrick]

KOL - Lil Wayne - The Black Keys
Vampire Weekend - Justice - MGMT

lol

[nikkirkpatrick]

KOL - Lil Wayne - The Black Keys
Vampire Weekend - Justice - MGMT

lol

[concertgoer]

Wayne and The Keys aren't big enough to be in the top three

[MadBird11]

R.E.M. RHCP, Blink 182
Bjork, Fleet Foxes Vampire Weekend

R.E.M. vs VW
RHCP vs Fleet Foxes
Blink vs Bjork

I feel like this is the best we can hope for, and that being said, I still doubt we'll get Bjork before ACL

[concertgoer]

ACL already got her so.....

[MadBird11]

Well I suck at the internet. So I'm sorry.

[nikkirkpatrick]

Wayne and The Keys aren't big enough to be in the top three

Killjoy. Black keys new album will bump them up to the south field. Wayne was a reach.

[concertgoer]

Kiljoy. Black keys new album will bump them up to the south field. Wayne was a reach.

I think even with a big new album their draw won't be the same level as Gaga, Green Day, Soundgarden, Eminem, Foos, Muse or Coldplay

[nikkirkpatrick]

They could easily reach Muse status. Muse only has 1 remotely big album in the US.

[Driftwood]

So you think The Black Keys could be playing the United Center?

[concertgoer]

True but they play huge arenas in the states. I don't see The Black Keys playing The Palace or The United Center on their next tour.

[nikkirkpatrick]

I could see it happening. Nothing more.

[IAmScareMongering]

Who is ready for The Avert Brothers to waste a headlining spot next year?

[concertgoer]

The Avett Brothers rule

[nikolajz1]

So you think The Black Keys could be playing the United Center?

They could play 2 nights at the UIC pretty easy. Maybe they could pull of the UC with a new album.

[dij22]

Who is ready for The Avert Brothers to waste a headlining spot next year?

Everybody

[Thisismyname]

They could play 2 nights at the UIC pretty easy. Maybe they could pull of the UC with a new album.

They were fourth on the Roo lineup, if there popularity continues to rise I don't think South Stage is really that crazy of a possibility in the future.

Still would think the 4th slot (1st north stage slot) would be most likely though.

[Broc1123]

Yeah they'd be 3rd or 4th next year. Disappointed they aren't taking at least half a year off though. By 2013 I might be really excited to see them again but I don't know about next year.

And CG, Coldplay isn't big enough to play the South Stage so they shouldn't be on your list. Remember?

[IAmScareMongering]

Coldplay should be a side stage act at best.

[Audiobully]

Who is ready for The Avert Brothers to waste a headlining spot next year?

I could see them a 7:30 south for sure.

[Driftwood]

Lulz - they sold out Aragon months in advance of their show. They will probably headline.

[nikolajz1]

This is where this goes :p

The Decemberists--> (Avett Brothers)--> Mumford and Sons vs. Kanye West <-- (Passion Pit) <-- Lupe Fiasco
The Shins--> (M83)-->Death Cab for Cutie vs. Red Hot Chili Peppers <-- (Alice in Chains)<-- Biffy Clyro
Robyn-->(PJ Harvey)-->Adele vs. Radiohead <-- (Band of Horses) <-- Bon Iver


Radiohead- Red Hot Chili Peppers- Kanye West
Death Cab for Cutie- Mumford and Sons- Adele
Bon Iver- The Decemberists- Lupe Fiasco- The Shins- Avett Brothers
Passion Pit- Band of Horses- Robyn- Alice in Chains- Biffy Clyro- PJ Harvey- M83

[Irving_Red]

If Mumford headlines I will kill everyone I have ever known.

Besides that the lineup isn't too bad : P

[concertgoer]

I thought Adele didn't play festivals because she is afraid of massive crowds?

[nikolajz1]

I think after having the biggest selling album of the year she'll have to get over it.

[Thisismyname]

...or just not play festivals.

[nikolajz1]

or that :p

[Caseysitsallgood]

so what does she play then? just theaters?

[nikolajz1]

Basically.

[Caseysitsallgood]

Hmm. I guess I've never had any interest in seeing a show in a theater. I just think it'd be too boring for me, I don't know...

[Krentistthedentist]

lol really?
derp

[MadBird11]

Hmm. I guess I've never had any interest in seeing a show in a theater. I just think it'd be too boring for me, I don't know...

heh

[Driftwood]

This is where this goes :p

The Decemberists--> (Avett Brothers)--> Mumford and Sons vs. Kanye West <-- (Passion Pit) <-- Lupe Fiasco
The Shins--> (M83)-->Death Cab for Cutie vs. Red Hot Chili Peppers <-- (Alice in Chains)<-- Biffy Clyro
Robyn-->(PJ Harvey)-->Adele vs. Radiohead <-- (Band of Horses) <-- Bon Iver


Radiohead- Red Hot Chili Peppers- Kanye West
Death Cab for Cutie- Mumford and Sons- Adele
Bon Iver- The Decemberists- Lupe Fiasco- The Shins- Avett Brothers
Passion Pit- Band of Horses- Robyn- Alice in Chains- Biffy Clyro- PJ Harvey- M83

You've got 14 bands on that line-up that will probably play Aragon (or a bigger venue) on their next go around (maybe the Shins have dropped down in popularity but everyone else except Robyn, Biffy, PJ - who would play the Riv and M83 could). Too soon for Radiohead to return, Avetts would headline (lol at side stage), Passion Pit are borderline headliners not side stage (Friday is far too stacked), Alice In Chains would sub at least (already played an Aragon show, why the fuck are Biffy subs after playing the Double Door?), Bon Iver just might sub if not being a 6 but Band of Horses are probably subs at this point (sold out Riv pretty far in advance of their show).

Also even in theory if a sub could play Aragon (like the Decemberists) I doubt a scenario arises where all of the subs are that big. Probably we'll get 8 acts total that can draw 4,000 people to a show.

[Caseysitsallgood]

lol really?
derp

yeah, I don't know what I was thinking there...

[Krentistthedentist]

Caseyitsalldadrock

[IAmScareMongering]

I think we can safely remove The Throne (and probably Kanye or Jay-Z solo) from these speculative lineups.

[danzip53]

Isn't Jay-Z supposed to be releasing his next album later this year though?

[nikolajz1]

I think we can safely remove The Throne (and probably Kanye or Jay-Z solo) from these speculative lineups.

why's that? Kanye still will probably do a full MBDTF tour after WTT. (He better at least :p)

[concertgoer]

I highly doubt that Ye will be doing a MBDTF tour.
That ship has sailed

[Krentistthedentist]

Isn't Jay-Z supposed to be releasing his next album later this year though?

God, I fucking hope so.

[oasisfan]

even though i'm not a huge jay-z fan id still love to see him at lolla next year and if kanye was there it would be beyond amazing

[WretchedSkye2113]

Jay-Z and/or Kanye are the only hip-hop headliners I would ever bother to see at Lollapalooza.

#racist

[nikolajz1]

Outkast?

[WretchedSkye2113]

i was kidding, silly.

yeah Outkast would be my #1 closely followed by Public Enemy.

[Krentistthedentist]

I'd probably see any hip hop headliner that wasn't Eminem

#racist

[oasisfan]

Kanye would be the shit though I'd just love the headliners from 08 again though. Radiohead, Rage Against The Machine, and Kanye West. hell i think they could do that every year and i'd be happy to go every year

[Driftwood]

Meh.

[oasisfan]

that had to be the most universally accepted year for headliners though i'd think

[concertgoer]

I still wouldn't want the same headliners every year though

[oasisfan]

well yeah i suppose i mightve been exaggerating a little bit there but still give those 3 to me next year and id be very happy

[ChestRockwell]

Queens of the Stone Age will probably have a record out by next summer, they could probably grab the same spot APC is in this year.

[oasisfan]

idk why but i just can't get into Queens of the Stone Age. however if they were in APC's spot and played before say Rage or Metallica maybe, then I would for sure be seeing Queens if not for a good spot just to hear No One Knows

[Driftwood]

QotSA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Metallica and Rage. Plz no Rage again. I'd be ok with Metallica but might check out the other headliner.

[dij22]

At this point in time, I'd bet on Metallica being the #1 headliner next year.

[concertgoer]

I don't think we are getting RATM again next year.
I thought Zach said in some interview that the LA Rising was gonna to be their last show

[Audiobully]

Did anyone else read Perry's Time Out interview? He basically says they don't seek out headliners, the headliners come to them.

[concertgoer]

Well he is full of shit
I remember reading an interview with him in 2008 and he said he really had to lobby Morello hard to book Rage
He did say that Kanye approached them in 08 though

[Audiobully]

He was talking more about right now and how that has evolved each year leading up to present time. He did lobby to have Deadmau5 as a headliner, but I read it as he was already booked, just not as a headliner.

[WretchedSkye2113]

i have no doubt that mau5's headlining slot was all Perry's doing.

i could see the bigger names asking C3/Perry to play Lolla, but the smaller 4-6 slots have to be C3 actively looking for bands to headline...

anyway, i really thought Metallica was gonna be this year with the anniversary and all. but maybe the Big 4 stuff got in the way. Metallica next year is possible but i wouldn't "bet" on it yet.
RHCP still seem like a good bet.

[Audiobully]

RHCP are the safest bet to me for next year.

[concertgoer]

Unfortunately I think RHCP are the most likely headliner that I can think of for next year
Hopefully they schedule somebody good against them

[Audiobully]

Death Cab.

[Driftwood]

Fleet Foxes or Avett Brothers or Passion Pit or Mumford & Sons will headline.

[WretchedSkye2113]

RHCP would definitely by the Sunday night rock band.
against some the up-and-coming slot...SSPU could pull it off if their next album is great.

Friday could be DCFC against a hip/hop pop act. most on here will hope for Ye or WTT.

Saturday...Metallica vs jam band?

so billing order

Metallica * RHCP * Kayne West
DCFC * randomjamband * SSPU

[Driftwood]

SSPU can not pull it off. There are many ahead of them that are more likely.

[WretchedSkye2113]

i think it depends on the success of their next album.
i can't speak to Chicago radio, but central and southern Illinois rock stations treat them pretty damn well. and they closed the Adidas stage for Killers in 09, yes?

you're right though, others are ahead of them. Passion Pit, Vampire Weekend, Mumford & Sons, etc

[Driftwood]

I mean I just think acts get booked in these high slots based on residual buzz from the prior album (and the anticipation of the new one) and not the actual success of the new one. If they blow up because of the new album it will be to headline in 2013 not 2012.

[sleeping]

I read an article a couple of days ago, I forget where, about this website that companies booking festivals (and it mentioned Lolla specifically) apparently use to find out which bands have "buzz" on the internet. It's called WeAreHunted.com -- I checked out the site and it uses some interesting functions to determine who's being talked about and where and whether it's negative or positive. Anyone familiar with it?

[dij22]

I mean I just think acts get booked in these high slots based on residual buzz from the prior album (and the anticipation of the new one) and not the actual success of the new one. If they blow up because of the new album it will be to headline in 2013 not 2012.

I think that's spot on. Avett Brothers for #6.

[WretchedSkye2113]

perhaps.
who else is in contention for a #6 slot?

Passion Pit, Vampire Weekend, Mumford and Sons, Fleet Foxes, Animal Collective, TVotR?

[dij22]

perhaps.
who else is in contention for a #6 slot?

Passion Pit, Vampire Weekend, Mumford and Sons, Fleet Foxes, Animal Collective, TVotR?

My 2 cents. Fleet Foxes/TVotR wouldn't headline over a year after their last release, and I don't think Passion Pit is there yet.

[danzip53]

I wouldn't be to terribly surprised if The Black Keys pump out their next album in 2012 and get the 6 spot...if not a little higher depending on how well it does

[WretchedSkye2113]

i actually think Black Keys- if they did play- would be above a #6 at this point.

[dij22]

They'd definitely be above #6, they can move to the south stage if their next album is huge again.

[WretchedSkye2113]

aren't they supposed to have another one out by the end of the year?

[oasisfan]

just out of curiousity what happened at rage in 08? i know that it got kinda rowdy but other than that ive never heard what actually happened? and why did it make everyone on here think that they won't be back? i'm just curious cuz i'd love to see rage at lolla

[Thisismyname]

There was 45,000 rage fans, and rage fans are dumb.

They had to stop the show a couple times because people were being crushed at the front, that was all. Heard there were a few instances of broken ribs or other bones and such.

[oasisfan]

I don't think we are getting RATM again next year.
I thought Zach said in some interview that the LA Rising was gonna to be their last show

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/rage-against-the-machine-keep-fighting-at-l-a-rising-festival-20110801

second paragraph or so it says something about them having solid plans for the next 2 years

[Driftwood]

There was 45,000 rage fans, and rage fans are dumb.

They had to stop the show a couple times because people were being crushed at the front, that was all. Heard there were a few instances of broken ribs or other bones and such.

You forgot the gatecrashers.

[Thisismyname]

File that under "rage fans are dumb"

[dij22]

aren't they supposed to have another one out by the end of the year?

Yeah, I could be making this up but aren't they done recording it and everything?

Hopefully it's not bad like Brothers

[danzip53]

According to the wikipedia's they're already done with it and are planning on releasing it later this year

[WretchedSkye2113]

it's supposed to be "Faster and heavier" last i heard.
i'm down.

[El Goodo]

Yeah, I could be making this up but aren't they done recording it and everything?

Hopefully it's not bad like Brothers

Brothers wasn't bad at all, silly.

[Driftwood]

It had it's moments but we can all agree that TBK are best when they are rocking out hard, yes?

[dij22]

The Black Keys are at their best when they're not making pop songs.

[El Goodo]

Would you have said that had any of the songs on Brothers not become popular?

[El Goodo]

It had it's moments but we can all agree that TBK are best when they are rocking out hard, yes?

If by that you mean Rubber Factory, then yes.

[dij22]

Would you have said that had any of the songs on Brothers not become popular?

I think so. They're just a different band now, Attack and Release and Brothers are just so removed from early Black Keys.

Which is fine, since I loved Attack and Release. But if the next album is an extension of Brothers, I'll probably just be bored by them going forward.

[El Goodo]

Yeah, I was just giving you shit, anyway. I celebrate their entire catalog. Rubber Factory and Thickfreakness are my favorites, but Attack & Release was excellent IMO as well.

[El Goodo]

Damn, I initially forgot Magic Potion. That's right there for me, too.

[ChestRockwell]

Metallica * RHCP * Justin Timberlake
The Raconteurs * The Black Keys * Vampire Weekend

I know JT seems pretty ridiculous, but if he made a comeback it'd be huge, and he's a much more entertaining pop star than Gaga is.

Would also be up for Kanye/Jay-Z (either as the throne or one of them doing a solo set), or Bjork.

[transference]

is justin ever gonna make a comeback? either way, i'd be interested in at least 5/6 even though black keys and vampire weekend feel like weak headliners.

[danzip53]

If their next album is even remotely as popular as Brothers, The Black Keys will not be a weak headliner

[RebelliousLies]

Plus they were billed #4 at Bonnaroo this year, so it makes a little more sense.

[Krentistthedentist]

Would they really book RHCP and Kanye in the same year AGAIN?

[transference]

If their next album is even remotely as popular as Brothers, The Black Keys will not be a weak headliner

Well, I meant weak for my own tastes. I could definitely see them as a headliner, they deserve it. I just hope they take a break for a bit. Aren't they supposed to have a new album out this year or early next year? They already seemed tired at Roo this year, in comparison to their Lolla set last year.

Anyone think Arctic Monkeys could make a #6 with their next album? It looked like they had a massive crowd and they headline festivals in Europe all the time, but I feel like it'd be a big stretch.

[MadBird11]

Would they really book RHCP and Kanye in the same year AGAIN?

Yeah. Not that anyone would like it, but yeah.

And for the record, anyone with a large spot this year will not be coming back next year, so let's just drop it now. (talking to you, Arctic Monkeys guy)

[IAmScareMongering]

When's the last time Arctic Monkeys wrote a good song? Sad that they're being discussed as a headliner.

[nikkirkpatrick]

2003?

[transference]

Yeah. Not that anyone would like it, but yeah.

And for the record, anyone with a large spot this year will not be coming back next year, so let's just drop it now. (talking to you, Arctic Monkeys guy)

I realize that, I was just wondering about the future beyond 2012. But I guess that's not exactly what the thread is about so nevermind.

[Driftwood]

Lolla 2011 was a blast, but how about some good top tier bands for 2012 plz.

[Driftwood]

When's the last time Arctic Monkeys wrote a good song? Sad that they're being discussed as a headliner.

Arctic Monkeys 2007 album >>> Kings of Leon 2007 album. They aren't going to headline, but what is your point?

[nikolajz1]

Lolla 2011 was a blast, but how about some good top tier bands for 2012 plz.

The headliners were fine, the subs were medicore.

[Driftwood]

The headliners collectively were very mainstream. Something a little more cutting edge would have been nice.

Definitely big names though.

[concertgoer]

Not sure if this qualifies as cutting edge but here are my newest predictions

Jay-Z, RHCP, The Cure, Black Keys, Fleet Foxes and Vampire Weekend

RHCP vs VW
Jay vs Fleet Foxes
The Cure vs Black Keys

[MadBird11]

Not sure if this qualifies as cutting edge but here are my newest predictions

Jay-Z, RHCP, The Cure, Black Keys, Fleet Foxes and Vampire Weekend

RHCP vs VW
Jay vs Fleet Foxes
The Cure vs Black Keys

Switch VW with Fleet Foxes and I could fuck with that.

[transference]

Vampire Weekend, Jay-Z, and The Cure. Sounds alright to me!

[nikkirkpatrick]

Switch VW with Fleet Foxes and I could fuck with that.

Yeah, I would go to that. Although if they continue having someone close the grove, headliners won't matter quite as much

Who are your grove closers cg?

[Crimson]

R.E.M. / The Killers / Death Cab For Cutie
Jane's Addiction / Cheap Trick / Mumford & Sons

Possible out-of-the-blue headliners: Aerosmith, Oasis, Jack Johnson, Marilyn Manson
Non-Headliners: Odd Future (OFWGKTA),Broken Bells, The Kooks, Esperanza Spalding, Bela Flek & the Flektones, Passion Pit, Sleigh Bells, The Hood Internet, Animal Collective, The Offspring, Michael Franti and Spearhead

Who definitely WONT be playing: Blink182, Metallica, RHCP (they've played so many Lollas), Cee Lo Green (I hope he never comes back to Lolla ever again)

[Crimson]

Oh yeah, and since Perry Ferrel is really starting to like electronic/DJ music I could see someone like The Gorillaz or Bassnecter being the next deadmau5 for Lolla 2012

[Audiobully]

You are wrong on so many levels it's not even worth diving into.

[Driftwood]

Lol.

[danzip53]

Who definitely WONT be playing: RHCP

http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/092/788/original/lol.jpg

[Broc1123]

Not sure if this qualifies as cutting edge but here are my newest predictions

Jay-Z, RHCP, The Cure, Black Keys, Fleet Foxes and Vampire Weekend

RHCP vs VW
Jay vs Fleet Foxes
The Cure vs Black Keys

I like this. I would much rather Kanye than Jay-Z but Jay-Z would be awesome still. Only problem is I really don't see them booking so many indie friendly bands.

I'd see Vampire Weekend, Jay-Z (since I'm guessing I will catch Fleet Foxes before next Lolla), and The Cure.

[WretchedSkye2113]

too many smaller acts.
i think we'll get one of the small acts (VW, FF, etc) as a #6 and maybe Black Keys as #5. but i think top 4 have to be crazy big from now on after how well this year went.

[fishkingpies]

i could even see a black keys south stage/the cure on north regardless of billing order.

also agree that as bad as the headliners were, the subs were even worse. easily the worst group of 6:30/7:30 bands ever.

speaking of which, how did the dj's closing the band shell work out? successful enough that it'll happen again next year?

and i'd say that unless justice gets a lot bigger w/ their new one, i could see them play perry's at this point.

[fishkingpies]

also gotta imagine that the yeah yeah yeahs will be in contention for a spot next year.

[WretchedSkye2113]

you think YYY would be back next year?
i mean we just got an 07 headliner repeat this year. is 09 already a possibility?
not suggesting that there's any kind of "time limit" on when a headliner can repeat, but i mean...

i'm still a firm believer of the 6 slots vaguely representing a genre/style of music. only ones that make sense to me right now are RHCP, who could totally be passed off as "reunited" after the hiatus and Frusciante leaving, and Kanye or Outkast playing the "hip/hop or pop" act.

there was some big rock band that came to mind yesterday on the way home that makes sense in a Green Day sort of way, but i can't think of it now...

[Broc1123]

Yeah I can definitely see The Black Keys as a 4 playing South and The Cure playing North as the 3. With VW OR Fleet Foxes as a 5-6. But not both.

I think The Raconteurs could be the 5 next year.

What about: RHCP, Jay-Z, The Cure, The Black Keys, Bjork, Vampire Weekend

[WretchedSkye2113]

oh yeah i meant to include Jay Z as a possible hiphop act.
Bjork would be cool, but i feel like she's not Lollacrowd material. =/
not saying she wouldn't be a headliner, because that brings up the OMGSHEDIDATCOACHELLABLARG thing, but i don't think C3 would bother to book her at all.
i loved the 2011 lineup, but the haters are right, the lineups are getting bigger and more mainstream. Bjork just really doesn't fit in.

[nikkirkpatrick]

oh yeah i meant to include Jay Z as a possible hiphop act.
Bjork would be cool, but i feel like she's not Lollacrowd material. =/
not saying she wouldn't be a headliner, because that brings up the OMGSHEDIDATCOACHELLABLARG thing, but i don't think C3 would bother to book her at all.
i loved the 2011 lineup, but the haters are right, the lineups are getting bigger and more mainstream. Bjork just really doesn't fit in.

I don't think Bjork would headline coachella in 2012 either

[fishkingpies]

you think YYY would be back next year?
i mean we just got an 07 headliner repeat this year. is 09 already a possibility?
not suggesting that there's any kind of "time limit" on when a headliner can repeat, but i mean...

i'm still a firm believer of the 6 slots vaguely representing a genre/style of music. only ones that make sense to me right now are RHCP, who could totally be passed off as "reunited" after the hiatus and Frusciante leaving, and Kanye or Outkast playing the "hip/hop or pop" act.

there was some big rock band that came to mind yesterday on the way home that makes sense in a Green Day sort of way, but i can't think of it now...

the black keys are a '10 act and a lot of people think they'll be back. kings of leon and yyy's played 07 & came back two years later in 09 so i wouldn't be surprised at either returning 3 years later for '11.

i don't know though. we'll probably end up w/ 3 new headliners & 3 repeats like this year. there are a lot of realistic options for those 3 repeats, a lot fewer for the 3 new acts.

[fishkingpies]

oh yeah i meant to include Jay Z as a possible hiphop act.
Bjork would be cool, but i feel like she's not Lollacrowd material. =/
not saying she wouldn't be a headliner, because that brings up the OMGSHEDIDATCOACHELLABLARG thing, but i don't think C3 would bother to book her at all.
i loved the 2011 lineup, but the haters are right, the lineups are getting bigger and more mainstream. Bjork just really doesn't fit in.

bjork did headliner acl in 07. still not a likely possibility though.

[Broc1123]

Yeah I guess you guys are right. I mean none of my friends listen to Bjork. But she's always brought up and is doing shows and an album so if it will ever happen it'd be next year.

And I don't think there's room for the Keys and the Racs.

I don't think we should assume that future lineups will have 4 huge names like this year. I mean, what 4 could they realistically even get next year close to the level of this year?

[Broc1123]

the black keys are a '10 act and a lot of people think they'll be back. kings of leon and yyy's played 07 & came back two years later in 09 so i wouldn't be surprised at either returning 3 years later for '11.

i don't know though. we'll probably end up w/ 3 new headliners & 3 repeats like this year. there are a lot of realistic options for those 3 repeats, a lot fewer for the 3 new acts.

The difference is YYYs and KoL didn't headline in 07. Subs and smaller acts are brought back 2-3 years later all the time. I would love YYYs again but I don't think they will come back because they would be doing pretty much the same show again plus a few new songs.

[WretchedSkye2113]

The difference is YYYs and KoL didn't headline in 07. Subs and smaller acts are brought back 2-3 years later all the time. I would love YYYs again but I don't think they will come back because they would be doing pretty much the same show again plus a few new songs.

this is my reasoning for thinking Black Keys wouldn't headline this year like many said before the lineup dropped.
still don't think they'll be around next year either, but it's obvz more possible. 2013 would be more definite in my mind.

[fishkingpies]

The difference is YYYs and KoL didn't headline in 07. Subs and smaller acts are brought back 2-3 years later all the time. I would love YYYs again but I don't think they will come back because they would be doing pretty much the same show again plus a few new songs.

isn't that the case w/ pretty much any repeat act?

[Broc1123]

Yeah I guess. But that combined with the fact that I don't think they've gotten any more popular since 09 just makes me think it won't happen next year.

[fishkingpies]

Yeah I guess. But that combined with the fact that I don't think they've gotten any more popular since 09 just makes me think it won't happen next year.

well they haven't toured or put out a new album since 09 either. i'd be very surprised if both of those things don't happen next year.

also we're talking about the raconteurs who are basically in the same position, so i don't know why one's likely and the others not realistic.

[WretchedSkye2113]

my only justification for Rac's over YYY's is the one 1 year difference in time between they headlined and now.
both seem possible though.

but i'd much rather have Rac's ;)

[Broc1123]

Yeah there's just a different feel with the Racs. To me, 08 seems like forever ago and so does the last time the Raconteurs were active. But 09 and seeing the YYYs at Lolla doesn't at all.

It'd be pretty cool if we got Racs and YYYs instead of Keys and VW but we all know that won't happen.

[WretchedSkye2113]

has anyone received that e-mail asking you which bands you want for next year yet?
i wonder if they ever show the results of last year's poll.

[nikkirkpatrick]

i don't think they released the info from the 2010 edition, so I wouldn't expect it this year.

[WretchedSkye2113]

no i know they don't publicly.

...hey, carl... ;)

[nikkirkpatrick]

no i know they don't publicly.

...hey, carl... ;)

i got you.

[WretchedSkye2113]

but really, anyone got the e-mail?
or do they post it on the website?

i wanna tell them that i want 3 straight days of triphop and acid jazz.

[fishkingpies]

don't forget bulgarian doom-folk

[nikkirkpatrick]

but really, anyone got the e-mail?
or do they post it on the website?

i'm pretty sure we got an email about it.


i wanna tell them that i want 3 straight days of triphop and acid jazz

this please

[Audiobully]

i could even see a black keys south stage/the cure on north regardless of billing order.

also agree that as bad as the headliners were, the subs were even worse. easily the worst group of 6:30/7:30 bands ever.

speaking of which, how did the dj's closing the band shell work out? successful enough that it'll happen again next year?

and i'd say that unless justice gets a lot bigger w/ their new one, i could see them play perry's at this point.

Dani Deahl was such a small crowd that I thought the dj had cancelled. With that said, I thought the dj idea was an absolute flop

[Five_Hole]

An absolute flop because they had small crowds? I think that was the idea. I would prefer that they put something along the lines of a BMI stage sized band but otherwise I think the plan worked.

[WretchedSkye2113]

the Sony and Playstation stages had some of the biggest crowds of the weekend.
Naked & Famous and TDCC were painful to walk through on the South side.

Cage the Elephant's looked stupid big for that stage. i think the idea was to put the hard rock bands there to reduce moshing/crowd surfing, but those bands just pull in too big of a crowd.

[Crimson]

You guys think I'm completely wrong, here my revision which is pretty accurate IMO:

Jay Z / R.E.M. / The Killers /
Red Hot Chili Peppers / Death Cab For Cutie / Jane's Addiction

Non-Headliners: The Black Keys, Yeah Yeah Yeah's, Odd Future (OFWGKTA), The Kooks, Passion Pit, Sleigh Bells, The Hood Internet

Who definitely WONT be playing: Blink182, Metallica, Cee Lo Green

Artists that are putting out a new album soon or have recently released an album and are touring: RHCP, Death Cab 4 Cutie, Jane's Addiction, The Killers (they've been in the studio since May), The Black Keys, Passion Pit, The Kooks, Sleigh Bells (they canceled their Lolla performance that was scheduled this year to work on their next album...they're basically guaranteed)

Artists that have been gaining significant popularity, might release some new, or have played pitchfork recently: Odd Future, Passion Pit, The Hood Internet

Educated guesses: REM, Jay Z, Yeah Yeah Yeah's

WOULD YOU LIKE ANY MORE JUSTIFICATION???

[danzip53]

The Black Keys are headliners at this point

[nikkirkpatrick]

no one wanted justification in the first place

[fishkingpies]

everyone is a headliner at this point.

[thelastonealive]

Dani Deahl was such a small crowd that I thought the dj had cancelled. With that said, I thought the dj idea was an absolute flop

Beats Antique had a decent sized crowd on Saturday, but I think they were a little different from a straight-up DJ, in that they had live instruments and are, well, good.

[Audiobully]

An absolute flop because they had small crowds? I think that was the idea. I would prefer that they put something along the lines of a BMI stage sized band but otherwise I think the plan worked.

It pissed me off because to get a good spot for a headliner you needed to be there at like 5pm. Also, they didn't book three acts that could/should have been Primus/Jimmy Eat World and someone else.

[Audiobully]

Crimson's Buzz or Greg just trying to rile us up. There's no way someone would otherwise say RHCP is a #4 or there's no way Blink is playing.

[concertgoer]

Why don't you think that Blink 182 could play?

[Audiobully]

He/she thinks there is no way Blink is playing. I think quite the contrary.

[Five_Hole]

It pissed me off because to get a good spot for a headliner you needed to be there at like 5pm. Also, they didn't book three acts that could/should have been Primus/Jimmy Eat World and someone else.

Let it go already. They didn't not book Primus/JEW/Or someone else because Dani Deahl, Beats Antique, and DJ Mel were on the line-up. It was a decision on their part to help alleviate crowd issues and it worked.

[Audiobully]

NEVER!!!!!!

[concertgoer]

He/she thinks there is no way Blink is playing. I think quite the contrary.

Oh my b

[fishkingpies]

i guess animal collective should be in this conversation as well.

[WretchedSkye2113]

i guess animal collective should be in this conversation as well.

where were you when i needed someone to help me defend this a few weeks ago? :(

[nikolajz1]

Radiohead- Kanye West- Metallica
Blur- Death Cab for Cutie- MGMT

Also pretty sure the Killers will be at ACL and Lolla Brazil next year

[WretchedSkye2113]

Radiohead- Kanye West- Metallica
Blur- Death Cab for Cutie- MGMT

ermm
Metallica is definitely a #1 no matter who else is playing.
and replace RH with RHCP and you're on to something

[nanatod]

Also pretty sure the Killers will be at ACL and Lolla Brazil next year

i'd guess that the lolla brazil and lolla chile line-ups next year will be very similar since they're a week apart. and because the killlers played lolla chile this year, i don't see them returning to santiago or going on to brazil next year.

[nikolajz1]

I also think The Chemical Brothers have a shot at playing the mau5 spot.

[nikkirkpatrick]

I also think The Chemical Brothers have a shot at playing the mau5 spot.

that would be a huge improvement.

[oasisfan]

Radiohead- Kanye West- Metallica
Blur- Death Cab for Cutie- MGMT

Also pretty sure the Killers will be at ACL and Lolla Brazil next year

i love that top 6 i would see Radiohead, Kanye, and Metallica but would be happy watching any of the others if for some reason they opposed each other

[nikolajz1]

that would be a huge improvement.

It would be. Unless they play against Radiohead or someone like that I would definitely see them.

[Broc1123]

I do not think MGMT will be back next year. They tend to not bring back bands within 2 years that everyone got to see the previous time. They bring back bands who were on too small of a stage for them or have blown up in popularity since. MGMT had a pretty high-profile spot last year.

[Broc1123]

What about this:

RHCP * Jay-Z * Blink-182
The Cure * The Black Keys * Vampire Weekend

[nikolajz1]

Google+ headliners: Jimmy Eat World, m83, and The Rapture for next year.

[WretchedSkye2113]

Metallica * REM * Kanye West * Red Hot Chili Peppers
The Raconteurs * Fatboy Slim * Fleet Foxes * Silversun Pickups * Widespread Panic

Friday: Metallica vs Fatboy Slim vs Fleet Foxes vs Bassnectar
Saturday: Kanye West vs Raconteurs vs Widespread Panic vs MSTRKRFT
Sunday: RHCP vs REM vs SSPU vs Chemical Brothers

*day: south vs north vs google+ vs Perry's

[oasisfan]

i just want there to be a metal headliner next year and if it was Metallica or Rage that would be amazing