It Starts Now: Volume Four - 2012 Lollapalooza Headliner Speculation

[MadBird11]

headlining perry's

Electric Sheep
alf8yourcat
littlelionman

Fantastic.

[that1guy]

fantastic? whats going on.

[MadBird11]

ugh

[nikkirkpatrick]

http://www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/FantasticVoyage.jpg

[glitterbacon]

fantastic? whats going on.

Straight trollin

[MadBird11]

Not really, no.

[nanatod]

wtf is buzzword

one of the people who posts a lot here has the board name of "buzzword." then he started posting under the name "count of monte disco." every time someone new comes along, a lot of people here think it is just buzzword / count of monte disco posting under a new alias, and usually it is not.

[MadBird11]

Nana, sometimes you're my favorite.

[nikkirkpatrick]

Nana, sometimes you're my favorite.

srsly

[Audiobully]

And you thought Bon Iver was boring if you weren't on something...

You're kidding comparing Boring Iver to Tool, right??

[SKZA]

I'm surprised Wilco hasn't come up more often here. They just got confirmed for the Forecastle Festival in July, so they'll definitely be back stateside between all their European festivals.

Chicago staple, relatively new album and they haven't been there since 2008. The Chicago residency in December doesn't help, but if we're speculating I think they'd be on my list.

[SpeedTrials]

You're kidding comparing Boring Iver to Tool, right??

Yup. Wouldn't have thought so going in, but the least engaging, boring show I've been too in the last 5 years. Was really disappointed. APC put on a much better show.

[nikolajz1]

Tool sucks

[BearDownBoilerUp]

tool suuuuuuuucks

[nikkirkpatrick]

both valid points

[Audiobully]

You then are all idiots. Sorry.

[that1guy]

You then are all idiots. Sorry.

Agreed. Listened to Tool for like 3 years. Love em.

[concertgoer]

Tool sucks

Pretty much

[that1guy]

one of the people who posts a lot here has the board name of "buzzword." then he started posting under the name "count of monte disco." every time someone new comes along, a lot of people here think it is just buzzword / count of monte disco posting under a new alias, and usually it is not.

oh ok. I see. That's close minded and stupid, but if I say so people will point a finger and yell buzzword or the name of whatever user isnt who he says he is and not take what i say into any consideration? typical.

[Audiobully]

Pretty much

I thought I knew you!!!

[that1guy]

Hey, what are the odds of Puscifer doing a show? it's unheard of and crazy, but is it possible? Also, talk of M83. Anyone back me up here?

[that1guy]

Tool sucks

Can Tool be removed from this discussion? they seem a bit controversial.
Hey how about that Korn ft Skrillex shit? Would they be booked a show? I heard rumors of Korn having their own show at a stage AND a show w/ Skrillz @ Perry's. Whats about that? anyone?

[Miller]

Can Tool be removed from this discussion? they seem a bit controversial.
Hey how about that Korn ft Skrillex shit? Would they be booked a show? I heard rumors of Korn having their own show at a stage AND a show w/ Skrillz @ Perry's. Whats about that? anyone?

That rumor came from this board, when speculating on bullshit information from Lollaleaks. Put it out of your mind. Korn will be mainstage, with or without Skrillex, in a world where C3 would book Korn at all.

[nikkirkpatrick]

Hey, what are the odds of Puscifer doing a show? it's unheard of and crazy, but is it possible? Also, talk of M83. Anyone back me up here?

puscifer was going to play, but perry wanted them to play between danzig and alice cooper, so he passed on the offer.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

that1guy suuuuuuucks

[that1guy]

That rumor came from this board, when speculating on bullshit information from Lollaleaks. Put it out of your mind. Korn will be mainstage, with or without Skrillex, in a world where C3 would book Korn at all.

okay. And anything on M83? The 2 don't have anything to do with each other, of course, I'm just throwing out some bands.

[that1guy]

that1guy suuuuuuucks

Um, alright then. What have I done to you? I've just stated my opinion on Tool, asked about the whole Buzzword deal and asked about a few band's likely-hood on playing Lolla2012. Can you justify that a little?

[Miller]

These aren't headliners. You're in the wrong thread. If we have info, it's in the semi-confirmed thread.

Edit: also, the purpose of the forum isn't to answer your guesses one at a time. If you have information that we haven't talked about, show us a link.

[JML]

okay. And anything on M83? The 2 don't have anything to do with each other, of course, I'm just throwing out some bands.

M83 is really likely because if his/their schedule and the fact that they're not on the Pitchfork lineup so far. I'd be really surprised to not see M83 on the Lolla lineup

[nanatod]

that1guy suuuuuuucks

he's named after an actual performer who plays a bunch of instruments at one time by himself. we saw him open for mickey hart a couple of years ago when they first put a street festival on sheffield north of addison while the cubs were out of town. these days, the "real" that1guy is touring as an opening act for buckethead, a guitarist who used to be a non-original member of guns and roses.

[El Goodo]

Nana is the Pop-up Videos of the board.

[nikkirkpatrick]

lul

[fishkingpies]

has this been discussed yet?: http://loudwire.com/black-sabbath-to-play-u-s-show-in-august/

“They’re gonna be doing one show in America this summer but I can’t say yet because we can’t announce it, the promoters have to,” Osbourne tells VH1 Radio Network’s Dave Basner. “But they are doing one show in August here together.”

[nikkirkpatrick]

book it

[Miller]

Yes. SecondSet summed up the possibilities pretty nicely.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

Um, alright then. What have I done to you? I've just stated my opinion on Tool, asked about the whole Buzzword deal and asked about a few band's likely-hood on playing Lolla2012. Can you justify that a little?

JUSTIFY IT YOURSELF

[that1guy]

JUSTIFY IT YOURSELF

Jesus, whats with this sudden aggression.
I understand your frustration.

[hux90]

Um, alright then. What have I done to you? I've just stated my opinion on Tool, asked about the whole Buzzword deal and asked about a few band's likely-hood on playing Lolla2012. Can you justify that a little?

I'm as much of a noob as you, but it's pretty obvious you don't contribute anything useful.
That's why you're getting crap.

[MadBird11]

No you don't.

[fiveiron83321]

n00bs need to learn how to internet better

[WretchedSkye2113]

has this been discussed yet?: http://loudwire.com/black-sabbath-to-play-u-s-show-in-august/

“They’re gonna be doing one show in America this summer but I can’t say yet because we can’t announce it, the promoters have to,” Osbourne tells VH1 Radio Network’s Dave Basner. “But they are doing one show in August here together.”


jtfc.

tell me this is a grant hart joke on a grant hart post that i missed earlier or something.

[WretchedSkye2113]

anyway,

pretending like my 6 slot system (reunited, pop, rock, indie, euro, new) still makes any sense at all,

Black Sabbath * Jay-Z & Kanye West * Metallica (or The Black Keys?)
Beck * Swedish House Mafia * Bon Iver

[here'slala]

has this been discussed yet?: http://loudwire.com/black-sabbath-to-play-u-s-show-in-august/

“They’re gonna be doing one show in America this summer but I can’t say yet because we can’t announce it, the promoters have to,” Osbourne tells VH1 Radio Network’s Dave Basner. “But they are doing one show in August here together.”

at length

[nikkirkpatrick]

THANKS

[fishkingpies]

jtfc.

tell me this is a grant hart joke on a grant hart post that i missed earlier or something.

dude i come in here once a month. i assumed it'd been posted but figure it was worth a mention on the off chance it hadn't been mentioned.

[that1guy]

anyway,

pretending like my 6 slot system (reunited, pop, rock, indie, euro, new) still makes any sense at all,

Black Sabbath * Jay-Z & Kanye West * Metallica (or The Black Keys?)
Beck * Swedish House Mafia * Bon Iver

No RHCP? I'd already accepted they were going.

[WretchedSkye2113]

dude i come in here once a month. i assumed it'd been posted but figure it was worth a mention on the off chance it hadn't been mentioned.

welcome to the lineup forum.
assume everything relating to lineup rumors has been posted in here at least 12 times already.

[WretchedSkye2113]

No RHCP? I'd already accepted they were going.

possible but i still think improbable.

[rosettastoned462]

I know TBK was discussed a lot yesterday but i never figured out why theyre heavily rumored now. The link for COS's evidence doesnt work.

[WretchedSkye2113]

I know TBK was discussed a lot yesterday but i never figured out why theyre heavily rumored now. The link for COS's evidence doesnt work.

tour date in Toronto the weekend of Lolla

[rosettastoned462]

Ok I got that much. Just thought must've been more to it

[that1guy]

I guess so. But who really is?

[that1guy]

n00bs need to learn how to internet better

Well said. I commend you.

[Waffle_Fish]

I know everyone thinks Bon Iver is a shoe in but has anyone ever headlined Sasquatch, Bonaroo and Coachella (Top 6) and Lollapalooza? I feel like the only way C3 would book bonnie is if they billed a very expensive top three.

[wiscostraightup]

I know everyone thinks Bon Iver is a shoe in
Umm what?

[johnd12751]

shoe in is a pretty widely used term. damn cheesehead :)

[wiscostraightup]

Thanks johnd. Excellent reading comprehension...
My point was they are far from a shoein.

[Waffle_Fish]

It seems like most people have them in their current guesses. Their more of a shoe in than some of the other artists people have been guessing

[wiscostraightup]

There are no shoe ins right now. At all.
But the band I personally think has the highest percentage of playing is tbk.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

its fucking shoo-in, [CENSORED]

[MadBird11]

BAN!

[wiscostraightup]

If that bugs you more than waffle's improper use of "their" then there is a problem.

[BearDownBoilerUp]

no they're is not

[MadBird11]

nuk-nuk-nuk

[Waffle_Fish]

ಠ_ಠ
They're. There. Their.
It's Their.

[Audiobully]

Um, alright then. What have I done to you? I've just stated my opinion on Tool, asked about the whole Buzzword deal and asked about a few band's likely-hood on playing Lolla2012. Can you justify that a little?

Tool is awesome and you're therefore awesome for liking them.

[Audiobully]

dude i come in here once a month. i assumed it'd been posted but figure it was worth a mention on the off chance it hadn't been mentioned.

All I know is I tend to love your avatars.

[nikkirkpatrick]

ಠ_ಠ
They're. There. Their.
It's Their.

sure thing.

[wiscostraightup]

ಠ_ಠ
They're. There. Their.
It's Their.

Lulz.
Look at your post again, your second use of "their"

[Miller]

oh my god, everyone stop talking please

[nikkirkpatrick]

miller, chill

[MadBird11]

http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/U/moran.jpg

[Miller]

http://unitedpackageliquors.com/catalog/images/Miller%20Chill%206pk%20Btls%20WEB.jpg

.

[Nile19]

^ :)

[Nile19]

I would crack one right now but a) its wed and I have class and b) I dont have any

[muthastone]

http://festival-outlook.consequenceofsound.net/fests/view/736/fuji-rock-festival

[nikolajz1]

Good chance we see a lot of those. Glad the two fests arent the same weekend this year.
STONE ROSES! Id be so happy with c3.

[wiscostraightup]

STONE ROSES! Id be so happy with c3.

too bad it'll never happen. cuz merica.

[nikolajz1]

Put them in Perry's against SHM and RHCP.

[muthastone]

yeah there should be some cross over. from 2011 we got.....arctic monkeys, big audio dynamite, coldplay, naked and famous, pains of being pure at heart, best coast, vaccines, the kills,

[Irving_Red]

Actually a pretty good lineup. I'd be thrilled to have most of those acts at Lolla. Especially Stone fucking Roses.

[Driftwood]

Coachella gets Noel. Lolla gets Beady Eye. Sounds right.

[Miller]

Beady Eye -> Pulp -> Blur

[wiscostraightup]

ATDI, Jack White, The Shins and justice all seem like the likely crossovers, and would be awesome.

[nikolajz1]

Beady Eye -> Pulp -> Blur

Oh god. I'd die, although I'd rather have Noel and some Oasis songs over Liam.

[johnd12751]

Beady Eye -> Pulp -> Blur

Mother of stage lineups.

[helloninja75]

From Wilco's Facebook page just a few minutes ago:


Wilco will play 3 festivals in Europe this August: Way Out West, Goteborg Sweden on 10/8; Haldern Pop, Rees-Haldern Germany on 11/8; Wilderness Festival, Oxfordshire, UK on 12/8

Sounds like they'll still be stateside during Lolla. I could see them headlining... Their last album did really well and their "Shrinking Tour" was a super hot run of shows with a lot of hardcore fans left without at ticket. I could see them being a draw as a headliner in 2012. Don't know if it'll happen but it's definitely possible.

[muthastone]

From Wilco's Facebook page just a few minutes ago:



Sounds like they'll still be stateside during Lolla. I could see them headlining... Their last album did really well and their "Shrinking Tour" was a super hot run of shows with a lot of hardcore fans left without at ticket. I could see them being a draw as a headliner in 2012. Don't know if it'll happen but it's definitely possible.

im liking this!

[Irving_Red]

Serious question: Would Wilco be a 3, 4 or 5?

[drink]

The Cure * Metallica * The Black Keys
Jack White * Wilco * Swedish House Mafia

[JML]

Serious question: Would Wilco be a 3, 4 or 5?

5

[concertgoer]

Probably a 5

[ironmonkey]

Beady Eye -> Pulp -> Blur

I'd run a Union Jack up my boner if that happened.

[Krentistthedentist]

From Wilco's Facebook page just a few minutes ago:



Sounds like they'll still be stateside during Lolla. I could see them headlining... Their last album did really well and their "Shrinking Tour" was a super hot run of shows with a lot of hardcore fans left without at ticket. I could see them being a draw as a headliner in 2012. Don't know if it'll happen but it's definitely possible.

Psh easy ticket
Like half the board went to two shows

[that1guy]

The Cure * Metallica * The Black Keys
Jack White * Wilco * Swedish House Mafia

I could see that, but I would exchange The Cure for RHCP for a safer bet. Or maybe Jack White. I'm really sure they're headline.

[nikkirkpatrick]

I could see that, but I would exchange The Cure for RHCP for a safer bet. Or maybe Jack White. I'm really sure they're headline.

sig-worthy

[muthastone]

bought my Wilco tickets yesterday for St Augustine show. Row F. Stoked, haven't seen them yet.

[Krentistthedentist]

They fucking rule live

[MadBird11]

sig-worthy

Nothing will ever top BDBU's sig though.

[nikkirkpatrick]

i think he's right. the jack whites should probably close the band shell. i hear their dj sets are loco.

[muthastone]

They fucking rule live

Awesome!

[31_Shoot]

http://festival-outlook.consequenceofsound.net/fests/view/864/electric-picnic

Late August means better chances that we do see The Cure or Sigur Ros? I'm real happy with either at Lolla

[Nile19]

http://festival-outlook.consequenceofsound.net/fests/view/864/electric-picnic

Late August means better chances that we do see The Cure or Sigur Ros? I'm real happy with either at Lolla

I feel better about Sigur Ros

[nanatod]

too bad it'll never happen. cuz merica.

I saw them in Tinley Park.

[31_Shoot]

I feel better about Sigur Ros

I mean I feel like they have a better chance, but of course I'd rather see the Cure

[emitts]

What do people think about Sigur Ros headlining the North stage (so they can have their full show at night), but with a big subheadliner like Florence or Bon Iver, and both getting like 90 minutes?

[Irving_Red]

In theory I'd be fine with that, but I really doubt that's what c3 would do. If anything it would be like APC>Muse was last year. Even then, I think both Florence and Bonnie are bigger than Sigur Ros in the US

[that1guy]

In theory I'd be fine with that, but I really doubt that's what c3 would do. If anything it would be like APC>Muse was last year. Even then, I think both Florence and Bonnie are bigger than Sigur Ros in the US

Very True. Very true.

[wiscostraightup]

I saw them in Tinley Park.

Show at tinley or east troy=/= American major. Especially lolla. That was my point.

[nanatod]

wisco, the tinley park show was a q101 jamboree. and they were not even the headliner.

[wiscostraightup]

Really? What year? Still you have to admit, them headlining a us major would be pretty stunning. But it'd be awesome.

[thombjorke.]

Smashing Pumpkins just confirmed for Rock in Rio, so we know they'll be around this summer. Still don't think they'd headline with the current lineup, though.

[Irving_Red]

Without all the members, I think SP falls into our "big sub" category along with Florence and Passion Pit.

[thombjorke.]

I also think so but some are insistent that they are a headliner regardless.

[muthastone]

I feel there is no way Corgan would allow that. Once a headliner....forever a headliner.

Its like Axl Rose.

[beancroc]

Without all the members, I think SP falls into our "big sub" category along with Florence and Passion Pit.


I honestly don't see them being anything other than a headliner, if they played. While knowledgeable Rock listeners know that this Billy and Friends shtick isn't great, the avg lolla ticket buyer just sees Billy at the helm and think nothing of it.

[pieman27]

You do realize Billy wrote all their material on his own w/ the exception of I think Soma on Siamese Dreams and the last track on Mellon Collie ? I know the concept of the original lineup playing together is ideal, but the skills are w/ Billy.

I think they would make a good #6, but I def think they would headline. They would be a good Friday North stage.

[MadBird11]

You do realize Billy wrote all their material on his own w/ the exception of I think Soma on Siamese Dreams and the last track on Mellon Collie ? I know the concept of the original lineup playing together is ideal, but the skills are w/ Billy.

I think they would make a good #6, but I def think they would headline. They would be a good Friday North stage.

what.

[pieman27]

Look up their wiki or liner notes if you have the albums. Gish, Siamese Dreams, and Mellon Collie were all written 99% by Corgan. He even laid all the bass tracks on Gish.

[thombjorke.]

He didn't play the drums though, and Chamberlain was an important part of the band.

And even if Chamberlain was part of it, nothing can really match how awesome it would be to have all four original members playing, regardless of how much they each contributed to the records. It's a nostalgia/romantic thing.

[rosettastoned462]

All original members might bump them from north to south stage, headliners either way

[pieman27]

Yea original lineup would definitely be South stage, Billy just hates James for some reason. He said in an interview last year he wishes he had just kicked james out and sent jimmy to rehab instead of breaking the band up. I wasn't a fan of the electronic path they were headed down, so by the time they broke up I didn't care.

[rosettastoned462]

As much as I loved soundgarden, it was kind of a bummer to see how unenthusiastic they were (exception: matt cameron). I feel like SP would be even less

[thombjorke.]

Wouldn't matter, as long as they were all there and played well I could care less if they looked like they were fucking hating it the whole time.

[MadBird11]

Look up their wiki or liner notes if you have the albums. Gish, Siamese Dreams, and Mellon Collie were all written 99% by Corgan. He even laid all the bass tracks on Gish.

Not what I was what.-ing, but thanks for re-learning me something.

[TonyPicker690]

I feel SP (w/o original members) would be great in the spot A Perfect Circle had last year. But my guess would be that they will be headliners if they are at lolla.

[alady]

As much as I loved soundgarden, it was kind of a bummer to see how unenthusiastic they were (exception: matt cameron). I feel like SP would be even less

I am agreeing with everything you have to say tonight. That set was a total bummer. They didn't even look at each other.

[nt54]

He didn't play the drums though, and Chamberlain was an important part of the band.

And even if Chamberlain was part of it, nothing can really match how awesome it would be to have all four original members playing, regardless of how much they each contributed to the records. It's a nostalgia/romantic thing.

The idea might be awesome, but the reality is that Smashing Pumpkins weren't really that great of a live band. If Billy were to go on another one of his rants, then a set from them might be interesting for a bit in a trainwreck sort of way.

[Krentistthedentist]

I am agreeing with everything you have to say tonight. That set was a total bummer. They didn't even look at each other.

At least temple of the dog was super awesome amirite?

[psychosomatica]

The idea might be awesome, but the reality is that Smashing Pumpkins weren't really that great of a live band. If Billy were to go on another one of his rants, then a set from them might be interesting for a bit in a trainwreck sort of way.

This is true. I know that a full generation feels like they missed out on not being able to see SP live. All I can say is have you ever had that one person you've always wanted to meet in real life, only to find out they're a complete douche? I love SP's recorded material. Love it. But listen to a bootleg sometime. It won't just be the quality that lets you down.

I had the pleasure of seeing SP on the second leg of the MC&TIS tour and the horror of seeing them on the Machina tour. Even at their best, they were okay. Meanwhile, a band like SSPU has played their hearts out everytime like it's their last show.

SP will always deliver an okay show, and if James and Jimmy come back into the fold, I'll probably see that for the nostalgia factor. But temper your expectations. Billy simply isn't what he once was, and doing sweet FA for 11 years really hasn't given him new drive to do much in the music business.

[johnwaynewasanazi]

I am agreeing with everything you have to say tonight. That set was a total bummer. They didn't even look at each other.

They still sound fucking sick. Sorry if they're not gonna be your monkeys 20 years into it. Chris's voice just gets better and better.

And Smashing Pumpkins suck. Yea some of the recordings are really cool, but that's cuz they're a totally manufactured band. Someone's turning the trash you hear live into something that's actually tolerable. We really wanna see a band that was hardly anything more than a pop culture fad to begin with, 20 years after their prime?

[nikolajz1]

SP would be an amazing sing along at Lolla. Would be great just to hear a bunch of the hits (mixed in with the new shit)

[ferro_man]

We really wanna see a band that was hardly anything more than a pop culture fad to begin with, 20 years after their prime?

there's no reason to have soundgarden come back to lolla so soon.

Welcome to the board

[ferro_man]

SP would be an amazing sing along at Lolla. Would be great just to hear a bunch of the hits (mixed in with the new shit)

the full version of gossamer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVn-_nWUkbY) and then an hour of the hits would easily be the second best lolla headliner ever (because daft punk)

[johnwaynewasanazi]

There's a big difference there though because Soundgarden created the fad, SP just rode in its wake. Not even tryna bring SG back so soon. They play Chicago all the time anyway. Just defending that 2010 show, cuz no one as close as I was seemed to be having anything short of a godly experience ..and thanks

[Audiobully]

He didn't play the drums though, and Chamberlain was an important part of the band.

And even if Chamberlain was part of it, nothing can really match how awesome it would be to have all four original members playing, regardless of how much they each contributed to the records. It's a nostalgia/romantic thing.

Very well said

[pieman27]

I will say that Soundgarden was a letdown...especially after Greenday. I'm not a big Greenday fan anymore, but wow did they put on a hell of a show. Billy Joe is on Dave Grohl's level of working a crowd, you could tell they were having a blast. Then Soundgarden come out the next night and end 10min early after Greenday ran over. They didn't look nearly as miserable as the Cars did. I will say that they looked just as nervous as they did at the pre-lolla show I went to that Thursday.

[Audiobully]

I am agreeing with everything you have to say tonight. That set was a total bummer. They didn't even look at each other.

That's how they were in 1994 too. Kim and Ben were never known for being real active on stage.

[pieman27]

I agree on SP live. I saw them at a Christmas show where you just had to donate some canned goods to get in about 2 years before they broke up and once during the mid 90's. It sounded like they were forced onto the stage at gunpoint and were dragging themselves through the songs.

[Audiobully]

There's a big difference there though because Soundgarden created the fad, SP just rode in its wake. Not even tryna bring SG back so soon. They play Chicago all the time anyway. Just defending that 2010 show, cuz no one as close as I was seemed to be having anything short of a godly experience ..and thanks

What 'fad' did Soundgarden create? If you say grunge, my God are you wrong on so many levels.

[pieman27]

Soundgarden rode in Nirvana's wake if anything... SP were on Subpop and active around the same time as well.

[concertgoer]

SP would be an amazing sing along at Lolla. Would be great just to hear a bunch of the hits (mixed in with the new shit)

The new shit mostly sucks. Greatest hits set or gtfo.

[pieman27]

The new shit mostly sucks. Greatest hits set or gtfo.

The newest stuff is better than the stuff they put on Machina...the unreleased b sides from that album were better than the actual album.

[concertgoer]

I liked Machina, but it's nowhere as good as their 90s material.

[brynrich]

There's a big difference there though because Soundgarden created the fad, SP just rode in its wake. Not even tryna bring SG back so soon. They play Chicago all the time anyway. Just defending that 2010 show, cuz no one as close as I was seemed to be having anything short of a godly experience ..and thanks

I think it's a bit unfair to compare the two, since they're such different bands... (quit lazily lumping all 90sI alternative bands together)

[brynrich]

The newest stuff is better than the stuff they put on Machina...the unreleased b sides from that album were better than the actual album.

Real talk.

[sleeping]

This is true. I know that a full generation feels like they missed out on not being able to see SP live. All I can say is have you ever had that one person you've always wanted to meet in real life, only to find out they're a complete douche? I love SP's recorded material. Love it. But listen to a bootleg sometime. It won't just be the quality that lets you down.
Ahahahahahaha, oh my gaga, the "they suck live" debate from alt.music.smash-pumpkins circa 1993 has come full circle to a new generation.

[brynrich]

Ahahahahahaha, oh my gaga, the "they suck live" debate from alt.music.smash-pumpkins circa 1993 has come full circle to a new generation.

Did you guys Alta Vista that shit?

[pieman27]

Looks like the ticket site is active starting today so I guess we can expect golden's soon ? To bad we don't have any headliners to go with them...

[pieman27]

Did you guys Alta Vista that shit?

dude Alta Vista is 1997...webcrawler

[brynrich]

Looks like the ticket site is active starting today so I guess we can expect golden's soon ? To bad we don't have any headliners to go with them...

Very interesting...

[Driftwood]

I thought Soundgarden were a lot better than Green Day.

[brynrich]

Well you thought wrong, peckawood...

[pieman27]

The sunday Soundgarden show was solid... I just felt they didn't want to be there all that mcuh. I never got to see them in the 90's so I don't have anything to compare to. The Thursday show was rougher, there were a lot of mistakes, I would like to see them again now that they've been playing together for awhile.

[concertgoer]

I was at Arcade Fire, but Soundgarden didn't sound that good when Palladia showed their Lolla concert.

[pieman27]

I shot a few videos...they sounded good, just not excited to be there.

http://youtu.be/vWxrFv-5LJE?hd=1

[Willy]

The sunday Soundgarden show was solid... I just felt they didn't want to be there all that mcuh. I never got to see them in the 90's so I don't have anything to compare to. The Thursday show was rougher, there were a lot of mistakes, I would like to see them again now that they've been playing together for awhile.

Saw them at the UIC back in July and they were very solid and a hell of a lot more energy then there Lolla showing.

[Nile19]

Looks like the ticket site is active starting today so I guess we can expect golden's soon ? To bad we don't have any headliners to go with them...

hmmmmm

[sleeping]

dude Alta Vista is 1997...webcrawler
Pfft, this was Usenet, we didn't even have a Web to crawl. But the oldest version of this I could find was from 1996:

3.7 Why do people think they suck live?
This is an old debate brought up by people who have only heard [Billy Corgan]'s more
hyper/screamy concerts. The point people try (and fail) to make is that BC
sucks live, because he screams, and "it sounds like shit." Well, some peo-
ple like how Billy sounds when he screams, it gives it a twist. We can't
expect him to whisper and be heard as he does in the studio. There
have been plenty of shows, even non-acoustic ones, in which his voice is
the same "nice, clean, mellow" voice we all know from the albums. It's
performances like the Disarm at MTV Music Awards that upset some people,
because they can't handle anything that's different than what they expect.
If it sounded exactly the same as the CD, what would be the point of going
to see them, other than the fact that it's likely to be louder?
Another comment from the D'arcy interview:
"Before we record songs, we always like to play all the songs a lot live,
to see how they work," D'Arcy says. "When we recorded 'Siamese Dream,' we
used a Mellotron, string instruments, multiple, multiple guitar parts...
But we always know we can go back and play it live with whatever we have
and it's still a good, solid song." (The WA Post, 11/19/93)

[Driftwood]

I was at Arcade Fire, but Soundgarden didn't sound that good when Palladia showed their Lolla concert.

Did they show Black Hole Sun? Because they didn't sound good for that song.

Gun and Like Suicide were particularly memorable and fantastic.

[didyouseethe]

Looks like the ticket site is active starting today so I guess we can expect golden's soon ? To bad we don't have any headliners to go with them...

I assume the new site will show up soon then? I'm excited to see the new look since I didn't like last year's.

I bet we will get a headliner soon too....

[pieman27]

I assume the new site will show up soon then? I'm excited to see the new look since I didn't like last year's.

I bet we will get a headliner soon too....

The ticket site hasn't updated the art, it still refers to 2011, but when I tried to log in it mentioned 2012 and had me set my account for it. Hopefully Kot will leak this coming week ?

[muthastone]

The ticket site hasn't updated the art, it still refers to 2011, but when I tried to log in it mentioned 2012 and had me set my account for it. Hopefully Kot will leak this coming week ?

what is the link to this? and where are you seeing it has been updated?

[MookieDaddy]

Expecting to see about 25 more posts similar to this ^ in the next day or two.

[Audiobully]

Did they show Black Hole Sun? Because they didn't sound good for that song.

Gun and Like Suicide were particularly memorable and fantastic.

Searching With My Good Eye Closed was amazing

[c1916]

Expecting to see about 25 more posts similar to this ^ in the next day or two.

The first rule of Lollaboard...you don't talk about Lollaboard.
The second rule of Lollaboard...

[sleeping]

Looks like the ticket site is active starting today so I guess we can expect golden's soon ? To bad we don't have any headliners to go with them...
There's a travel package listed on the site that has an on-sale date, and in the description for the package it does say Lollapalooza 2012, so it's not old.

edit: Oh, I can see the ticket prices too. Neat.

edit: Edited the post because I'm not sure that what I posted is supposed to be public information. Please don't quote it if you saw it.

[pieman27]

I think they did show black hole sun...which agreed. Blow up the outside world was rough as well, Kim didn't seem to do well on the slower stuff.

[muthastone]

nm got it now.

[JML]

I think they did show black hole sun...which agreed. Blow up the outside world was rough as well, Kim didn't seem to do well on the slower stuff.

There's an hour-long "Soundgarden @ Lolla" special on Palladia that shows a good chunk of the set

[Willy]

Did they show Black Hole Sun? Because they didn't sound good for that song.

Gun and Like Suicide were particularly memorable and fantastic.

Yes to Black Hole Sun, I can't say how it was cause I ran for beer during that song (cause I fucking hate it). No Gun that I can recall, but Like Suicide was their next to last song during the encore that went right into Slaves and Bulldozers to close it out. That was fantastic!

[WretchedSkye2113]

last minute thought before i black out;

most optimistic:

Black Sabbath * The Throne * Metallica
The Cure * Beck * Jack White

most pessimistic:

Red Hot Chili Peppers * The Killers * The Black Keys
Jane's Addiction * Swedish House Mafia * Bon Iver

pick 3 from each lineup?

The Throne * Metallica * The Black Keys
Beck * Swedish House Mafia * Bon Iver

[Willy]

[QUOTE=WretchedSkye2113;271849]last minute thought before i black out;

Now thats funny shit right there

[muthastone]

last minute thought before i black out;

most optimistic:

Black Sabbath * The Throne * Metallica
The Cure * Beck * Jack White

most pessimistic:

Red Hot Chili Peppers * The Killers * The Black Keys
Jane's Addiction * Swedish House Mafia * Bon Iver

pick 3 from each lineup?

The Throne * Metallica * The Black Keys
Beck * Swedish House Mafia * Bon Iver

wretched, starting early today?

[discdreadsndoulos]

In his neck of the woods, he is behind the game if he is starting now.

[concertgoer]

Since that dude from Timeout Chicago was wrong about Pitchfork I am doubting his SHM and Sigur Ros info.

[concertgoer]

In his neck of the woods, he is behind the game if he is starting now.

I miss college :/

[MookieDaddy]

Since that dude from Timeout Chicago was wrong about Pitchfork I am doubting his SHM and Sigur Ros info.

I agree, but someone else posted that he said the P4k ones were rumors, but he had reliable info on the Lolla ones. Who knows.

[discdreadsndoulos]

Since that dude from Timeout Chicago was wrong about Pitchfork I am doubting his SHM and Sigur Ros info.

I really hope not. While i couldn't give two shits about SHM, seeing Sigur Ros again would be glorious. Did anyone happen to see their 2008 Bonnaroo set? How does their show translate to a festival setting?

[muthastone]

I miss college :/

agreed.

[sleeping]

Since that dude from Timeout Chicago was wrong about Pitchfork I am doubting his SHM and Sigur Ros info.
There's no reason to think he was wrong about Pitchfork just because the bands he mentioned weren't in the half of the lineup that's been announced.

edit: I do hope that Gossip Wolf post about P4k was bullshit, though. I kind of had my heart set on seeing Sleigh Bells at Lollapalooza, and Sharon Van Etten and Real Estate would be really nice too.

[Nile19]

If that dude is wrong about SHM, I would say Justice is a possible 6 again. Back to the drawing board...

[31_Shoot]

last minute thought before i black out;

most optimistic:

Black Sabbath * The Throne * Metallica
The Cure * Beck * Jack White

most pessimistic:

Red Hot Chili Peppers * The Killers * The Black Keys
Jane's Addiction * Swedish House Mafia * Bon Iver

pick 3 from each lineup?

The Throne * Metallica * The Black Keys
Beck * Swedish House Mafia * Bon Iver


love unofficial, but fuck this rain

[Broc1123]

Did you guys get that huge hail?

It's like night here.

[SecondSet]

Since that dude from Timeout Chicago was wrong about Pitchfork I am doubting his SHM and Sigur Ros info.

Two different dudes.

[concertgoer]

Two different dudes.

Oh yeah my mistake. So I guess the Jack White rumor is wrong then.

[concertgoer]

Not trying to derail the thread, but does C3 normally sell travel packages before the lineup is released?

[nikolajz1]

That line up is too good to be real.

[MadBird11]

Not trying to derail the thread, but does C3 normally sell travel packages before the lineup is released?

It's going to sell out, so why not cash in even more?

[concertgoer]

It's going to sell out, so why not cash in even more?

True, I have no doubt that those packages will sell well I was just curious about the timeline.

[nikolajz1]

It's going to sell out, so why not cash in even more?

Travel packs sold out last year so selling them early isnt a ploy to sell more.

[MadBird11]

So now we have the date.

Too bad the secret sale already happened.

[thombjorke.]

Some people on the Facebook page are requesting that the Blue Man Group headline, so maybe we should consider that.

[muthastone]

we should consider Cher as well.

[concertgoer]

So maybe early birds go on 3/27 and we get the lineup release on 4/3?

[thombjorke.]

reasoning?

[El Goodo]

in no order of course
Wilco-Smashing Pumpkins-Black Keys-Stone Roses-Blur-Underworld-Sonic Youth
The Cure-Chemical Brothers-Animal Collective

Um so where did you see that lineup -- or was that your prediction?

[MadBird11]

That's his impossible prediction I'm sure.

Check his other posts for other great "predictions".

[concertgoer]

I can't just see C3 just putting hotel packages onsale that day and they usually put early birds (not goldens) on sale a week or so before the lineup announcement. Also we have that article where a C3 rep says that the lineup will be released in early April. So yeah April 3rd makes sense.

[thombjorke.]

Um so where did you see that lineup -- or was that your prediction?

That's the lineup, I can confirm it.

[MookieDaddy]

Um so where did you see that lineup -- or was that your prediction?

Don't forget, Pearl Jam is a lock to headline Lolla. 1970petrus knows.

[thombjorke.]

I can't just see C3 just putting hotel packages onsale that day and they usually put early birds (not goldens) on sale a week or so before the lineup announcement. Also we have that article where a C3 rep says that the lineup will be released in early April. So yeah April 3rd makes sense.

makes sense I suppose, although there could just be a longer time in between early birds and the lineup announcement

[Driftwood]

Guys - you can put names in the toolbar to check if they are playing. All those names worked. WTT didn't but Jay-Z and Kanye did!!! Sigur Ros too.

[Driftwood]

Don't forget, Pearl Jam is a lock to headline Lolla. 1970petrus knows.

Pearl Jam doesn't work in the toolbar thing.

[MadBird11]

But Metallica certainly isn't playing.

So, 1970petrus=buzz, right?

[MookieDaddy]

Pearl Jam doesn't work in the toolbar thing.


okay, got some info this morning. SHM is headlining NorthCoast with New Order, take them of the lolla list. Metallica will not be at lolla, they have there own fest, you can count Pearl Jam as a headliner for lolla, Bon Iver is headlining friday Pitchfork, Florence can suck it as a number 8 spot at lolla. no wtt at lolla either, the new st paul festival got some nice acts, think pitchfork meets lolla, good crossovers also.
pumpkins, blur, stone roses, animal collective, pearl jam, wilco, janes addiction, beach boys, the xx,

1970petrus DOES NOT LIE!

[MadBird11]

Yup, it's Buzz.

[concertgoer]

Guys - you can put names in the toolbar to check if they are playing. All those names worked. WTT didn't but Jay-Z and Kanye did!!! Sigur Ros too.

Liar

[ironmonkey]

what toolbar are you talking about?

[cosmo]

what toolbar are you talking about?

This is from the line-up page: http://lineup.lollapalooza.com/band/foo-fighters

but it doesn't work. Driftwood is a lying liar who lies.

[stelles75]

racist

[El Goodo]

this year's Lolla will blow our black socks off

hahahahahaha

forever and ever.

[rosettastoned462]

So now we have the date.

Too bad the secret sale already happened.

This should be the title of a thread. Should weed out a bunch of buzz's alts

[MadBird11]

im not saying that its the line up, its my dream line up. also the tool bar deal, my phish friends who hacked the 2012 tour dates said to try this method for artist on the tool bar of the lolla line up, i think sometime in late march it will be worth a try, not now.
something like this
http://lineup.lollapalooza.com/band/wilco

I am not a expert also, just a massive fan of lolla who has been to festival's all around the world and thinking that this year's Lolla will blow our black socks off, it just took Perry a year later for the massive 20th fest line up.

You really typed this.

Holy shit.

[Krentistthedentist]

i can think of 12,334 posts that might elicit a similar response.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

here is the link

i think if we try start putting in bands around that time in the tool bar, we might come up lucky

in no order of course
Wilco-Smashing Pumpkins-Black Keys-Stone Roses-Blur-Underworld-Sonic Youth
The Cure-Chemical Brothers-Animal Collective

1970petrus... are you are trying to make it impossible for yourself to get tickets? you have the link, good for you.

you need to delete this post, brah.

this board has a policy of not posting pre sale links in public.

also... just as a note. they change the link the day of the onsale, just to confuse you n00bs. good luck.

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

But Metallica certainly isn't playing.

So, 1970petrus=buzz, right?

no. not a chance.

[MadBird11]

i can think of 12,334 posts that might elicit a similar response.

I would've figured you to be in a leprechaun suit celebrating at this point in the day.

[danzip53]

Greg Kot where are you to save us from this madness...

[SecondSet]

Don't forget, Pearl Jam is a lock to headline Lolla. 1970petrus knows.

I wouldn't dismiss them, despite grandcru's bullshit. There's some reason to think they might be there.

[MadBird11]

<3 your location

[TheCountofMonteDisco]

I wouldn't dismiss them, despite grandcru's bullshit. There's some reason to think they might be there.

and... what would that be?

[Nile19]

Greg Kot where are you to save us from this madness...

http://www.demotivationalposters.org/image/demotivational-poster/0907/madness-madness-sparta-300-demotivational-poster-1247248045.jpg

[nikkirkpatrick]

nice

[danzip53]

haha

[johnd12751]

Black Sabbath * Kanye West * The Killers
The Black Keys * Wilco * Blur
Jack White * Florence + the Machine * The Shins
Passion Pit * At the Drive-In * Sigur Ros

The Shins -> The Killers vs Wilco <- Florence
At the Drive In-> Black Sabbath vs The Black Keys <- Jack White
Passion Pit -> Kanye West vs Blur <- Sigur Ros

[concertgoer]

Blur vs Ye would make me cry
Seriously

[MadBird11]

Guy who plays often vs. guys who never play.

Real tear-jerking decision.

[concertgoer]

Guy who plays often vs. guys who never play.

Real tear-jerking decision.

Derp
Kanye has played like 5 solo shows over the last two years.

[MadBird11]

I don't understand your first comment then.

[concertgoer]

Well Kanye doesn't play solo often so...
Anyway I would probably see Blur

[Krentistthedentist]

Wilco Sabbath and Blur would be my decisions, although the Blur vs Kanye one would be awful.

[concertgoer]

I would probably see the same three as you.
Johnd should swap The Shins and Florence. Florence makes much more sense a sub for The Killers.

[ChiCity]

Just gonna throw this out there....

I get that it's #rare and lots of people would be excited....but I feel like Blur would have one of the smallest crowds a Lolla headliner has ever had.

[Krentistthedentist]

Agreed. Depending on who they were squared up against, they could probably draw a bigger crowd than both Wilco and MMJ, though.

[concertgoer]

Agreed. Depending on who they were squared up against, they could probably draw a bigger crowd than both Wilco and MMJ, though.

I don't see them drawing a bigger crowd than Wilco or MMJ against any realistic south field headliner.

[Krentistthedentist]

Wilco and MMJ were squared against #rare headliners.

[concertgoer]

I think Blur would even have a tiny crowd against a #notrare headliner like The Black Keys.

[Krentistthedentist]

The other headliner would have to be both
1) uncool
2) ubiquitous

[Driftwood]

I don't see them drawing a bigger crowd than Wilco or MMJ against any realistic south field headliner.

For their only US show?

[concertgoer]

For their only US show?

But you know it wouldn't be. They would play NYC at least and probably LA and SF

[wiscostraightup]

I think Blur would even have a tiny crowd against a #notrare headliner like The Black Keys.

I'm not so sure about that.

[concertgoer]

I am one of the biggest Blur fans and the board and have seen them twice. Having said that most people in America don't give a fuck about them :(

[wiscostraightup]

True, but even against the keys? they're everywhere all the fucking time.
Actually the more i think about it you're probably right.

[askiba]

Yeah I'm sort of conflicted. I feel like the claim "Blur would have a smaller crowd then MMJ" is crazy, but it makes sense if you consider that literally no American knows about Blur. (Terrible) case in point- they play MMJ but not Blur on, say, XRT. And any "fans would travel!" argument is bunk because I can't imagine hundreds of people flying for a single American Blur show.

All that being said, I'd still go.

[Krentistthedentist]

Yeah I'm sort of conflicted. I feel like the claim "Blur would have a smaller crowd then MMJ" is crazy, but it makes sense if you consider that literally no American knows about Blur. (Terrible) case in point- they play MMJ but not Blur on, say, XRT. And any "fans would travel!" argument is bunk because I can't imagine hundreds of people flying for a single American Blur show.

All that being said, I'd still go.

You can't imagine hundreds of people flying to Lollapalooza?

[ChiCity]

For their only US show?

LOL at any band of Blur's level of hipness doing a one off at Lollapalooza....

(prove me wrong C3)

[Miller]

Don't worry, guys. The Olympics will make them really popular.

[psychosomatica]

And any "fans would travel!" argument is bunk because I can't imagine hundreds of people flying for a single American Blur show.

All that being said, I'd still go.

It'd be the closest show us Canadians would get to see, as well as many other western hemisphere countries. I'll be coming either way, but I could guarantee 5 people I know that would drop everything just to see Blur this year while not having to travel to Europe.

[ferro_man]

The other headliner would have to be both
1) uncool
2) ubiquitous



so wilco then?