It Starts Now: Volume Four - 2012 Lollapalooza Headliner Speculation

[WretchedSkye2113]

Black Sabbath * Jay-Z * The Black Keys
Beck * Bjork * Swedish House Mafia

i think was one that he and i agreed on last night.
although given the Reading idea, maybe switch Bjork out for the Cure and put em at a 4 over Beck?
i think TBK gets billed over cure at this point =/

[brynrich]

I think a Jay-Z solo set is just as likely as WTT, especially when you consider the fact that Lolla is the only US major he hasn't played yet.

[brynrich]

i think TBK gets billed over cure at this point =/

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[concertgoer]

I think a Jay-Z solo set is just as likely as WTT, especially when you consider the fact that Lolla is the only US major he hasn't played yet.

I would agree with this

[WretchedSkye2113]

ktd was actually saying it's more likely.
apparently Jay-Z is playing a solo show (or multiple?) in the states this summer. totally missed that.

[concertgoer]

I know that he is playing SXSW, but that's all I have heard about.

[WretchedSkye2113]

yeah i think that's what he was talking about (i was in a loopy state of mind after being so exhausted and chugging coffee to stay awake and not veer off the road)

[Krentistthedentist]

I was so fucking exhausted on the drive home but yeah that is what I was saying

[arbee]

ktd and i had a pretty lengthy conversation about the top 6 last night on the way home.

consensus; wtfisandwhydontweknowanythingyetwillsomeoneplzleak itthisweekfortheloveofscience

there's something really sad & disturbing about this.

[WretchedSkye2113]

oh god that's nothing. you should've heard the fucking debate about board politics at Schlafly's. and the popularity contest discussion while we were sitting before Other Lives. and the Top 5 Whatever's while walking to my car.

...this happens a lot when drifty and ktd are together.

[concertgoer]

A board politics debate? Sounds riveting;)

[concertgoer]

I don't think Arbee and I talked much about the board at the pre-coachella hockey bar last year.

[arbee]

Usually it was Tony bringing it up because he loves hearing all about the board, especially now that he knows some of the players.

[WretchedSkye2113]

hey guys, hey guys!
did you hear that?

arbee called us players. :)

[MadBird11]

hey guys, hey guys!
did you hear that?

arbee called us players. :)

LOL!

[Krentistthedentist]

there's something really sad & disturbing about this.

To be fair, Wretched's "pretty lengthy" descriptor is a total exaggeration.
Possibly 10 minutes, and that's generous, of a three hour trip.

[Krentistthedentist]

oh god that's nothing. you should've heard the fucking debate about board politics at Schlafly's. and the popularity contest discussion while we were sitting before Other Lives. and the Top 5 Whatever's while walking to my car.

...this happens a lot when drifty and ktd are together.


This is all Drify's fault

[WretchedSkye2113]

To be fair, Wretched's "pretty lengthy" descriptor is a total exaggeration.
Possibly 10 minutes, and that's generous, of a three hour trip.

time dilation, bro.
southern illinois is a fucking wormhole.

[Neader]

Even if Jay-Z gets billed as a solo act I can totally see Kanye coming on stage with him as a guest and doing at least 4 songs together. And then Kanye will take the mic from Jay-Z, kick him off stage, and do his own set.

[Audiobully]

Didn't Symb like last January say something to the fact of Jay, Kanye or WTT was a pipe dream? That's why I've thought they were all not happening.

[Krentistthedentist]

Didn't Symb like last January say something to the fact of Jay, Kanye or WTT was a pipe dream? That's why I've thought they were all not happening.

Oh, really?
Guess it must be true.

[Audiobully]

I thought that was so. Maybe I mis-read or something stupid that I normally do when drunk (like now).

[alady]

Someone needs to get a C3 employee really drunk during SXSW.

Game on.

[brynrich]

Not even the hardest-hearted C3 employee can resist alady's charm...

[oasisfan]

This thread needs more Pearl Jam speculating.

[brynrich]

Eh

[oasisfan]

maybe headliners looking something like this

WTT * Pearl Jam * Metallica
The Black Keys * Beck * Tiesto

Metallica vs Beck
WTT vs The Black Keys
Pearl Jam vs Tiesto

[rosettastoned462]

time dilation, bro.
southern illinois is a fucking wormhole.

Except carbondale

[nikolajz1]

I'm guessing that there is a headliner leak this week.

[beancroc]

Except carbondale

Only if wine trails and more alcohol afterwards are included.

[Willy]

This thread needs more Pearl Jam speculating.

Agreed

[jcfrank2]

I'm guessing that there is a headliner leak this week.

That's a pretty safe bet.

[WampireVeekend]

in good news I think I saw somewhere that Tiesto is overseas during lolla

[joelmanfu]

I'm guessing that there is a headliner leak this week.

I'm leaking one on twitter.

[brynrich]

in good news I think I saw somewhere that Tiesto is overseas during lolla

Our buttholes are safe

[brynrich]

I'm leaking one on twitter.

ugh

[thombjorke.]

in good news I think I saw somewhere that Tiesto is overseas during lolla

Where did you read that? Looking at his tour dates on his website, it seems like the closest show to Lolla is on August 11.

[WampireVeekend]

Where did you read that? Looking at his tour dates on his website, it seems like the closest show to Lolla is on August 11.

the Ultra Korea festival on August 4th.

http://umfworldwide.com/#

[SecondSet]

Looking at his tour dates on his website

lol

[ferro_man]

the Ultra Korea festival on August 4th.

http://umfworldwide.com/#

he could catch the 11am asiana airlines direct flight on sunday morning, arrive in Chicago at 9:50 am, sleep the day away and headline perry's sunday night

possible but not probable (hooray international date line)

[thombjorke.]

he could catch the 11am asiana airlines direct flight on sunday morning, arrive in Chicago at 9:50 am, sleep the day away and headline perry's sunday night

possible but not probable (hooray international date line)

Tiesto is known to do stuff like that but yeah, it's unlikely.

This probably makes SHM more likely.

[that1guy]

I feel like WTT/Jay-Z/Kanye West, Jack White, TBK, and Beck are all locks or extremely likely. Is that a safe assumption? :/

[Driftwood]

No.

[that1guy]

No.

Thanks. Alright then. I'll keep my deluded opinions to myself :/
Are any of those very likely/ locks?

[Driftwood]

The Black Keys.

[cosmo]

Just my own speculation, but I think Jack White will be there as well.

[concertgoer]

Let's hope so

[that1guy]

The Black Keys.

OK. thanks.

[Audiobully]

Just my own speculation, but I think Jack White will be there as well.

He may make or break this year for me, unless they pull some surprises.

[Waffle_Fish]

Does anyone else think it's unlikely that we'll take two Sasquatch headliners? It has happened before but that was is in 2009.

That being said, are we more likely to take Beck or Jack White?

[that1guy]

Does anyone else think it's unlikely that we'll take two Sasquatch headliners? It has happened before but that was is in 2009.

That being said, are we more likely to take Beck or Jack White?

In my opinion, Beck.
maybe it's just me. I don't really have much solid justification for my claim though.

[ten15SaturdayNight]

In my opinion, Beck.
maybe I'm talking out my ass. I don't really have much solid justification for my claim though.

I think this is what you meant to say.

[Mike53421]

n00b fight?!

[arbee]

Mike...wtf is this Foster the People show at Downsview Park?

[Mike53421]

Actually not sure but assuming it's the same portion of Downsview as Radiohead is doing and that show is 40,000 capacity. If Foster The People gets a 40,000 person field to play with... I will lose faith in humanity. They have done Edgefest there in recent years and I can see them doing the same for both Radiohead and FtP, but essentially the stage and a big general admission field.

I've heard there's a new venue being set up at the park this summer but that's the extent of it. Google time for me...

EDIT: Why in the fuck would anybody pay $94 for Foster the People?

[pieman27]

EDIT: Why in the fuck would anybody pay $94 for Foster the People?

even in canadian dollars !

[arbee]

even in canadian dollars !

http://www.bankofcanada.ca/rates/exchange/daily-converter/

[SecondSet]

The Black Keys.

Not imo.

[SecondSet]

Does anyone else think it's unlikely that we'll take two Sasquatch headliners? It has happened before but that was is in 2009.

That being said, are we more likely to take Beck or Jack White?

Yes, and Jack White.

[Irving_Red]

I remember I paid $5 to see FtP just over a year ago... What the fuck is this shit.

And yeah, gonna agree with SecondSet. Jack White will probably draw more of the Lolla crowd unfortunately. I'd personally rather have Beck.

[that1guy]

I think this is what you meant to say.

Thank you for the translation. Feel free for any further posts of mine.

[WampireVeekend]

I think Beck makes so much sense. Played the touring Lolla and still has yet to play Chicagopalooza. Lolla seems to go for headliners that played the touring Lolla.

11- A Perfect Circle
10- Soundgarden, Green Day, Devo
09- Tool, Jane's Addiction, Beasties (until cancelled)
08- Rage, NIN

EDIT: I realize APC and Devo weren't headliners

[brynrich]

HEY! Devo and A Per- Oh... Nevermind...

[MadBird11]

Not imo.

Your sources telling you different?

[Willy]

Likely that RHCP will be at Lolla.....all I can say fellas sorry

[arbee]

Who's Dave?

[MadBird11]

More importantly, why did my interest in attending this festival just fall a bit?

[Irving_Red]

Hey guys, lets not believe this guy's baseless story because I have a baseless story!

[MadBird11]

derp

[psychosomatica]

even in canadian dollars !

Dumbass.

[carligula]

Likely that RHCP will be at Lolla.....all I can say fellas sorry

I see this was edited. I guess you're claiming insider info?

[SecondSet]

Your sources telling you different?

No:
1. Multiple, in-radius arena shows that aren't sold out - Chicago, Milwaukee, Indy, Grand Rapids
2. Not a WME act
3. Too duplicative of Jack White, who I consider effectively confirmed (and both are 3-4 acts, which in the past go head to head), and Pearl Jam, who I regard as a serious possibility
4. They played in 2010
5. 8/4, yes, but, obviously given that they're already in Canada, Osheaga (which they also played in 2010, but where they were billed lower than at Lolla)
6. I see no reason they can't come back in 2013 or 14 and stake a solid claim to the top line (at Outside Lands too in the latter year).

Edit: I mean, obviously it can happen. But my bet is against.

[Driftwood]

Why the hell is Jack White effectively confirmed? Because he is playing one other festival?

There is definitely more evidence for TBK. Playing in 2010 makes no difference - have you seen how many times they've played Lolla?

I'm willing to make a wager.

[SecondSet]

Why the hell is Jack White effectively confirmed? Because he is playing one other festival?

https://twitter.com/#!/bdicrescenzo/status/167994866989674496

I guess that isn't Sennett, who I think is a better source, as I thought. But JW is a WME act (and more established/recognizable). TBK is not.

[concertgoer]

Why the hell is Jack White effectively confirmed? Because he is playing one other festival?

There is definitely more evidence for TBK. Playing in 2010 makes no difference - have you seen how many times they've played Lolla?

I'm willing to make a wager.

YOU FORGOT ABOUT HANGOUT

[Driftwood]

https://twitter.com/#!/bdicrescenzo/status/167994866989674496

I guess that isn't Sennett, who I think is a better source, as I thought. But JW is a WME act (and more established/recognizable). TBK is not.

Are The Dead Weather a WME act? They played basically every fest but Lolla.

[SecondSet]

Are The Dead Weather a WME act? They played basically every fest but Lolla.

Yes, they are a WME act. Raconteurs played Lolla in 06 and 08. 10 would have been too soon to return, and their absence is even more reason for his presence this year.

[jcfrank2]

https://twitter.com/#!/bdicrescenzo/status/167994866989674496

I guess that isn't Sennett, who I think is a better source, as I thought. But JW is a WME act (and more established/recognizable). TBK is not.

How did those Pitchfork rumors turn out?

[SecondSet]

How did those Pitchfork rumors turn out?

Like I said, it isn't the source I thought it was. But it is a former Pitchfork staffer, and I don't think you can say that either of those acts won't be there, despite what Greg Kot said.

[nikkirkpatrick]

YOU FORGOT ABOUT HANGOUT

http://www.hangoutmusicfest.com/wp-content/uploads/Hangout-Crowd-4.jpg

[Driftwood]

Yes, they are a WME act. Raconteurs played Lolla in 06 and 08. 10 would have been too soon to return, and their absence is even more reason for his presence this year.

Oh come on Raconteurs and Dead Weather both played Coachella, Roo and ACL. 10 was not too soon to return for a different project.

[carligula]

I think Black Keys are slightly more likely than Jack White to play Lolla this year. I also think it's giving C3 too much credit to say they won't book both because they're so alike. Both are major money-makers. As long as they're on different nights, they will good decisions.

I don't personally know the guy who confirmed the Black Keys, but I'd like to know I have a good sense of when someone is telling the truth and when someone is trolling.

[SecondSet]

Oh come on Raconteurs and Dead Weather both played Coachella, Roo and ACL. 10 was not too soon to return for a different project.

Please name another major act ("different project" come on) that has played Chicagopalooza three times in five years. TBK did so (four times if you count Auerbach solo), but were never an end of day act. In fact, they led into the Raconteurs in '08 - Jack White is the more senior act and arguably should headline first. I admit there's clearly a relationship with TBK there.

[SecondSet]

I don't personally know the guy who confirmed the Black Keys, but I'd like to know I have a good sense of when someone is telling the truth and when someone is trolling.

I think everyone would like to think that. I personally have seen too many stories on the internet to credit anyone I don't know or can't independently verify in some fashion. And I'm skeptical of the circumstances of the story, which opportunistically followed TBK's announcement of the 8/4 date.

[Caseysitsallgood]

Jack White is the more senior act and arguably should headline first.

I don't understand this. because Jack White has been around longer he deserves to headline over Black Keys?

[Mike53421]

The Black Keys are within a 9-hour drive of Lollapalooza that weekend and they play every festival, everywhere, as frequently as possible. That is the assumption we're going on, right?

[Mike53421]

I don't understand this. because Jack White has been around longer he deserves to headline over Black Keys?
I feel I would be more inclined to travel for Lolla if I knew Jack was on the bill and if he wasn't necessarily touring. I could basically throw a dart at a map and I'm sure the Black Keys will be there on any given day.

Having said that, unfortunately, I actually can't decide who is the bigger headliner at this stage. Jack has #rare cred but the Black Keys sell out arenas.

[Caseysitsallgood]

I feel I would be more inclined to travel for Lolla if I knew Jack was on the bill and if he wasn't necessarily touring. I could basically throw a dart at a map and I'm sure the Black Keys will be there on any given day.

unless Iowa. :(

but not really

[concertgoer]

I feel I would be more inclined to travel for Lolla if I knew Jack was on the bill and if he wasn't necessarily touring. I could basically throw a dart at a map and I'm sure the Black Keys will be there on any given day.

Having said that, unfortunately, I actually can't decide who is the bigger headliner at this stage. Jack has #rare cred but the Black Keys sell out arenas.

The Black Keys are for sure the bigger headliner.

[symbionese]

jack white is not the white stripes. and even as much as you want to pretend that these solo shows with a few songs sprinkled in is the second coming, it is not. the black keys are bigger.

[carligula]

Yeah, Jack White only plays small clubs for like 200 people, right? ! ; )

But seriously, Black Keys are bigger.

[carligula]

jack white is not the white stripes. and even as much as you want to pretend that these solo shows with a few songs sprinkled in is the second coming, it is not. the black keys are bigger.

The shows are literally one third to one half White Stripes songs. That's more than a sprinkling.

It's like if the White Stripes had more instruments and a good drummer. I agree that the draw isn't equal, but he's much much more of a draw than if there was only a sprinkling on White Stripes rarities.

[symbionese]

It's like if the White Stripes had more instruments and a good drummer.

you mean like the bigger black keys?

[nikkirkpatrick]

the msg board 'update' MUST mean the lineup is coming out tonight at midnight! get ready fuckers (bannable?)

[Mike53421]

I scrambled like a mah'fucka to make sure the golden tickets weren't on sale when I saw that.

Maybe they'll announce Jay Z after he's done with SXSW tonight. ;)

[DubstepRepresentation]

the msg board 'update' MUST mean the lineup is coming out tonight at midnight! get ready fuckers (bannable?)

I knew something looked different! What changed?

[symbionese]

I knew something looked different! What changed?

the number of goldies available. from 1000 to 0. and in less than 9 seconds...

[nikkirkpatrick]

I knew something looked different! What changed?

background color, general layout. delete your cookies yo.

[carligula]

the msg board 'update' MUST mean the lineup is coming out tonight at midnight! get ready fuckers (bannable?)

Time to lock some threads...

[dmwade]

For all those still suggesting Pearl Jam as a possibility, we can pretty much rule them out now.

EV Solo Europe shows:


We are happy to announce that Eddie Vedder will bring his solo show to Europe for the first time this summer with a limited four-city run. The shows kick off in Amsterdam on July 25th and wrap up with a performance at Sudoeste Festival in Portugal on August 3rd.

July 25 – Amsterdam, Holland at Carre Theatre
July 26 - Amsterdam , Holland at Carre Theatre
July 28 – Manchester, United Kingdom at the 02 Apollo Manchester
July 30 – London, United Kingdom at HMV Apollo Hammersmith
August 3 – Zambujeira Do Mar, Portugal at Sudoeste Festival TMN

[nikkirkpatrick]

Time to lock some threads...

sorry bro

[carligula]

For all those still suggesting Pearl Jam as a possibility, we can pretty much rule them out now.

EV Solo Europe shows:

But Petrus1970 guaranteed it!!!!

I figured that there was a 2% chance, but this is still disappointing.

[SecondSet]

Guess I have to give up on Pearl Jam, and relent a bit on TBK. But if they're playing, I think Jack White may be a 5.

Friday - SHM (4) vs. TBK (3)
Saturday - WTT (1 or 2) vs. JW (5)
Sunday - Metallica (1 or 2) vs. Sigur Ros (6)

[Mike53421]

If Jack White and the Throne go head to head... just... fuck. He and the Raconteurs kinda got fucked in '08 by going against Bloc Party/Radiohead.

[Willy]

I see this was edited. I guess you're claiming insider info?

Yes Carl.

[carligula]

Except this time it will be a rock band vs. a hip hop duo.

[that1guy]

Guess I have to give up on Pearl Jam, and relent a bit on TBK. But if they're playing, I think Jack White may be a 5.

Friday - SHM (4) vs. TBK (3)
Saturday - WTT (1 or 2) vs. JW (5)
Sunday - Metallica (1 or 2) vs. Sigur Ros (6)

Very nice. But I would change one thing: Sigur Ros would be subbing Bjork.

[WretchedSkye2113]

i was in StL the whole day that the article with the Metallica Mexico City date(s) surfaced.

did we debunk those or something?

[xparker]

Very nice. But I would change one thing: Sigur Ros would be subbing Bjork.

I'm positive that Sigur Ros are a headliner.

[symbionese]

I'm positive that Sigur Ros are a headliner.

not if the other 6 are bigger draws...

[WretchedSkye2113]

not if the other 6 are bigger draws...

thank you.
we can have bands that are big enough to headline (Florence, Passion Pit, Sigur Ros) be subs if there's a bigger top 6 already out there.

[Isyourbedmade?]

Guess I have to give up on Pearl Jam, and relent a bit on TBK. But if they're playing, I think Jack White may be a 5.

Friday - SHM (4) vs. TBK (3)
Saturday - WTT (1 or 2) vs. JW (5)
Sunday - Metallica (1 or 2) vs. Sigur Ros (6)

Great lineup but I think replace sigur ros with Beck but he wouldn't be a 6 SHM would be

[Willy]

Great lineup but I think replace sigur ros with Beck but he wouldn't be a 6 SHM would be

And RHCP will be in one of those spots as well.

[Thisismyname]

jack white is not the white stripes. and even as much as you want to pretend that these solo shows with a few songs sprinkled in is the second coming, it is not. the black keys are bigger.

Even if it were the Stripes, the Black Keys are bigger. Only time this wouldn't be true would maybe be the first couple comeback shows, and that's only if it were marketed correctly.

[Krentistthedentist]

Yeah, correct.
The Keys now are bigger than the Stripes ever were during their initial run.
The cancelled show in 07 was for the Aragon, right?

[sleeping]

Metallica * Red Hot Chili Peppers * The Black Keys
Beck * The Smashing Pumpkins * Swedish House Mafia

It's a little heavy on the nostalgia acts but seems pretty reasonable given what we've been hearing. Maybe with a bunch of kiddie-friendly subs?

[WretchedSkye2113]

but do we all agree that a White Stripes reunion show would be bigger than any TBK show?

[Thisismyname]

Believe so.

Most I remember them playing were some college/mid-sized arenas. Probably could have done MSG, but who can't amirite?

[Thisismyname]

but do we all agree that a White Stripes reunion show would be bigger than any TBK show?

Yes. The first couple reunion shows. But that's it.

[brynrich]

Yes. The first couple reunion shows. But that's it.

I think they could do arenas after several years of absence

[Thisismyname]

Extensively across the states? Nah. Not in the 20,000 person arenas the Black Keys play.

[Krentistthedentist]

I think they could do arenas after several years of absence

There are probably a few markets they'd have a REALLY tough time with, but yeah, probably.

MSG/UC/Staples Center + a couple more idk where

[Audiobully]

Yeah, so, my sig is indeed the correct headliners, amirite??

[carligula]

Metallica * Red Hot Chili Peppers * The Black Keys
Beck * The Smashing Pumpkins * Swedish House Mafia

It's a little heavy on the nostalgia acts but seems pretty reasonable given what we've been hearing. Maybe with a bunch of kiddie-friendly subs?

No, it seems like a collection of the standard shot-in-the-dark guesses we see year in and year out. People have been guessing SP since Lolla set up shop in Chicago and I don't see why this year is any different.

People gravitate towards guessing previous Lolla headliners rather than admitting that more recent acts like Black Keys, Florence and the Machine and Bon Iver are now big enough to headline. Don't get fooled into thinking C3 is interested too much in nostalgie like many of the older fans are.

[carligula]

And RHCP will be in one of those spots as well.

Alright, I think I'm drinking the Kool-Aid. It would be a terrible decision, but it wouldn't be the first time.

[Willy]

Alright, I think I'm drinking the Kool-Aid. It would be a terrible decision, but it wouldn't be the first time.

Agreed Carl

[Krentistthedentist]

is the allstate show even sold out?
Seems pretty weak that Lolla is booking bands with arena dates that aren't even sold out.

[MookieDaddy]

Nope, not sold out.

[concertgoer]

If RHCP are playing I doubt that they would be the #1 headliner, especially since they have that Allstate show in May.

[Thisismyname]

People gravitate towards guessing previous Lolla headliners rather than admitting that more recent acts like Black Keys, Florence and the Machine and Bon Iver are now big enough to headline. Don't get fooled into thinking C3 is interested too much in nostalgie like many of the older fans are.

Good. I'd much rather see either of those (eh, maybe Black Keys too) than the current SP again.

[thombjorke.]

The only reason it's not sold out is because they're still selling some shitty obstructed view tickets behind the stage.

[carligula]

So, the Lolla lineup will be revealed as soon as the Allstate show sells out, right?

[WretchedSkye2113]

Alright, I think I'm drinking the Kool-Aid. It would be a terrible decision, but it wouldn't be the first time.


no carl, don't give in!

[WretchedSkye2113]

but i'll play along

Metallica * Jay-Z * Red Hot Chili Peppers
The Black Keys * Beck * Swedish House Mafia

[Krentistthedentist]

If Lollapalooza books RHCP AND the Black Keys, I am going to be really mad and shoot someone.

[WretchedSkye2113]

If Lollapalooza books RHCP AND the Black Keys, I am going to be really mad and shoot someone.

oh you will not because you'll get Metallica, Jay-Z, and Beck.

you will just be 1/2 right about how awful they are at booking recently.

[Krentistthedentist]

I bet I will have to choose between Beck and either Jay or Metallica

[WretchedSkye2113]

jay z v tbk
metallica v shm
rhcp v beck

:)

[thombjorke.]

2 out of those 3 plus the Black Keys wouldn't be so bad.

[carligula]

jay z v tbk
metallica v shm
rhcp v beck

:)

Good enough for me.

[concertgoer]

The Throne- RHCP- The Black Keys
Jack White- Beck- Swedish House Mafia

The Black Keys vs Swedish House Mafia.
The Throne vs Beck :(
RHCP vs Jack White

[Krentistthedentist]

jay z v tbk
metallica v shm
rhcp v beck

:)

Why don't you run this festival?

[Krentistthedentist]

The Throne- RHCP- The Black Keys
Jack White- Beck- Justice

The Black Keys vs Justice
The Throne vs Beck :(
RHCP vs Jack White

Perry's.
Remember how hard Justice failed at selling out MSG?
And how hard their last album failed?

[carligula]

Jay Z and RHCP is too much hiphop, though :p

[Krentistthedentist]

The fest could book Atmosphere, RHCP, RATM, Eminem, Mac Miller, Sam Adams, Asher Roth, Vanilla Ice, and Beastie Boys and it still wouldn't be too much hip hop.

[concertgoer]

Perry's.
Remember how hard Justice failed at selling out MSG?
And how hard their last album failed?

When did Justice play MSG?

[thombjorke.]

When did Justice play MSG?

Cancelled in 08 due to low ticket sales. Show was moved to a smaller theater.

[Krentistthedentist]

When did Justice play MSG?

Exactly.

[concertgoer]

Cancelled due to low ticket sales.

Hmmm ok Perry's it is then.

[Thisismyname]

That being said, Justice, The Throne, and Mr. White could probably get me to Chicago. Especially if I don't do Coachella.

[carligula]

The fest could book Atmosphere, RHCP, RATM, Eminem, Mac Miller, Sam Adams, Asher Roth, Vanilla Ice, and Beastie Boys and it still wouldn't be too much hip hop.

Racist.

[YoMamma]

I think I remember someone in here saying that Lollapalooza likes to book the highest selling artist of the year (ex: Lady GaGa in '10, Kanye in '08). This last year's highest selling artist was just announced today as Taylor Swift. She is playing overseas until August, where she has one show announced on August 11 in Canada.

I hope she won't play here, because I can't stand her music, but just thought it was worth pointing out, haha.


According to the report, Swift brought in more cash last year than fellow singers Adele, Britney Spears and Katy Perry combined.

http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/12/taylor-swift-tops-list-of-musics-high-earners/?hpt=hp_bn4

[carligula]

I don't think anyone expects C3 to book a pop country headliner. Dierks Bentley on the main stage at 2pm is the closest they've come to that.

[thombjorke.]

1. Kanye was not the best selling artist of 2007
2. Lady Gaga was not the best selling artist of 2009
3. Taylor Swift was not the best selling artist of 2011

[SecondSet]

The Throne- RHCP- The Black Keys
Jack White- Beck- Swedish House Mafia

The Black Keys vs Swedish House Mafia.
The Throne vs Beck :(
RHCP vs Jack White

Replace Beck with Sigur Ros. Then consider flipping JW and SR. That may be it.

[ruthlessvengeance]

Lose Yourself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLWpyRAaybU&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

She could be more appropriate than you think. Here she covers one of last years headliners.

[ruthlessvengeance]

Taylor Swift was not the best selling artist of 2011

Top grossing, surpassing U2.

With the new song with the Civi Wars in the Hunger Games soundtrack she will have a lot of new fans

[SecondSet]

My post on the wishlist may be relevant here

[thombjorke.]

Top grossing, surpassing U2.

With the new song with the Civi Wars in the Hunger Games soundtrack she will have a lot of new fans

What that guy was referring to was a discussion about Lolla booking the top selling artists in terms of records. It's pretty well known that Adele was the best selling artist last year in that regard.

btw U2 did have the highest grossing tour of 2011

[WretchedSkye2113]

so Heavy TO (metal festival in Toronto the second weekend in August) is probably announcing their lineup this week.
last year they had every freaking decent metal band that's toured in the past 10 years, minus Metallica and Maiden.

so if they get Metallica this year...help/hinder/confirm/debunk?
discuss.

also, Maiden will not be playing Heavy TO because Toronto date in July.

[brynrich]

Matt, I love you, but what the fuck?

EDIT: Misread and thought you had lost it

[Krentistthedentist]

What could you have possibly interpreted that as?

[concertgoer]

Bryn sure is cranky today.

[Krentistthedentist]

Someone showed him where that dick goes, I guess.

[carligula]

so Heavy TO (metal festival in Toronto the second weekend in August) is probably announcing their lineup this week.
last year they had every freaking decent metal band that's toured in the past 10 years, minus Metallica and Maiden.

so if they get Metallica this year...help/hinder/confirm/debunk?
discuss.

also, Maiden will not be playing Heavy TO because Toronto date in July.

As an aside, does Sharon know that Toronto, while being part of North America, is not in the US?

[thombjorke.]

As an aside, does Sharon know that Toronto, while being part of North America, is not in the US?

That would be a pretty big step up for them. Their #1 headliner last year was Megadeth.

[Krentistthedentist]

I heard it's going to be faith no more.

[WretchedSkye2113]

As an aside, does Sharon know that Toronto, while being part of North America, is not in the US?

heh. no kidding.
but i have to agree with Thombjorke that booking Sabbath after having Rob Zombie and Megadeth as headliners last year would be cray.

i could see Metallica playing both nights at TO though and doing another Black Album/RtL show or something.
two nights of Sabbath is possible too then, i guess. *shrug*


idk, i'm just spitballing ideas.

[WretchedSkye2113]

also, if TO is the Sharon-referenced Sabbath show, i'd be tempted to say fuck Lolla and put my money on a flight up to Canadia for the following weekend :D

[jcp]

As an aside, does Sharon know that Toronto, while being part of North America, is not in the US?

In Sharon's defense, her quote was that Sabbath would play one show in August in "America", not "the US".

[carligula]

I heard it's going to be faith no more.

I can ban you whenever I want, you know?

[carligula]

In Sharon's defense, her quote was that Sabbath would play one show in August in "America", not "the US".

Damnit!! You're right. That's it. Sabbath is playing Heavy TO.

[Nile19]

Just wondering, why are we talking about RHCP again? Considering their Chicago date, what are the reasons for them being there now?

[WretchedSkye2113]

wondering the same. especially since the Chicago date hasn't sold out yet.
i'm assuming it's just part of the speculation back and forth's of this thread. usually once we ignore a band for long enough, someone revitalizes their possibilities by tossing them into a prediction for shiggles.

[pieman27]

also, if TO is the Sharon-referenced Sabbath show, i'd be tempted to say fuck Lolla and put my money on a flight up to Canadia for the following weekend :D

I saw Sabbath in 2001(or was it 2000...) when the full band reunited @ Ozzfest. I'll just say if you haven't seen ozzy before just imagine him standing their w/ out moving and bouncing off his toes clapping saying "c'mon everybody clap your hands' over and over and over. My boss told me that's what it would be like, but I didn't believe him, I was wrong.

[ten15SaturdayNight]

Someone - Willy? has inside info that RHCP is playing. He posted a few pages back... Ugh.

[nikkirkpatrick]

Willy ain't got shit

[WretchedSkye2113]

he edited it.
could still happen, but i don't see reason to believe it yet.

[Nile19]

Well, if TBK are there and they have a Chicago date already too, what the hell I guess

[WretchedSkye2113]

lol. dug up old predictions from my fb and this thread and whatnot.
we were probably closer in predicting this thing right after Lolla2011 than we are now.


Metallica * Jay-Z and/or Kanye West * Red Hot Chili Peppers
The Black Keys * Wilco Beck * Passion Pit Swedish House Mafia

[WampireVeekend]

I hate to say this, but is Lil Wayne still a possible option?

Metallica - RHCP - The Black Keys
Lil Wayne - Beck - SHM

[wanny]

So why are we thinking SHM as the 6th slot. Only viable option since justice couldn't headline?

[MadBird11]

You're apart of the we?

[nikkirkpatrick]

Recently, a young man on acid realized that matter is just energy condensed, to a show vibration.

[wanny]

The 5 posts have contributed greatly =]

[MadBird11]

The 5 posts have contributed greatly =]

All about wanting to see EDM here?

You must be really confused.

[sleeping]

So why are we thinking SHM as the 6th slot. Only viable option since justice couldn't headline?
There was a tweet from [Brent DiCrescenzo, IIRC?] that said "Don't ask how I know this, but Sigur Ros and Swedish House Mafia will be on the Lollapalooza lineup. High."
If true, then a main stage would make sense for an artist that's #2 on their day at Coachella.

[MadBird11]

Recently, a young man on acid realized that matter is just energy condensed, to a show vibration.

I......I love the colorful clothes she wears

[wiscostraightup]

Replace Beck with Sigur Ros. Then consider flipping JW and SR. That may be it.

Sigur ros as a 4? What?

[wanny]

Living in Iowa, this is the closest I'll get to see SHM. I could care less if JW, RHCP, Metallica, Black keys, etc all play. I would love to see any of them

[younglondon]

Chances of Ben Folds/Ben Folds Five being there? He played Chicago last summer, but has dates again for this year but no Chicago yet.

[nikkirkpatrick]

I......I love the colorful clothes she wears

There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves.

[wanny]

Also after the reading line up came out today. I believe florence/Justice is definitely going to be playing at lolla.

[WretchedSkye2113]

only if they bring The Cure with them.

[MadBird11]

There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves.

Wouldn't it be nice if we were older, and we wouldn't have to wait so long?

[ten15SaturdayNight]

only if they bring The Cure with them.

This. (Obviously.)

[nikkirkpatrick]

Wouldn't it be nice if we were older, and we wouldn't have to wait so long?

Here's Tom with the weather

[concertgoer]

Sigur ros as a 4? What?

Yeah that's not happening. I don't even think they are a 6.

[wiscostraightup]

Yeah that's not happening. I don't even think they are a 6.

Me either. Maybe I just misunderstood secondset. But I'm pretty sure that's what he said.

[Miller]

Chances of Ben Folds/Ben Folds Five being there? He played Chicago last summer, but has dates again for this year but no Chicago yet.

Ben Folds Five is a good possibility, but not to headline. Take it on over to the non-headliner speculation thread.

[nikkirkpatrick]

this is my thread.

http://home.comcast.net/~kptv/programs/otherpix/Mills.gif

[Krentistthedentist]

Can we re-do the rules of this thread?
Can newer posters just give us elders facts to synthesize into realistic speculation?

[MadBird11]

Here's Tom with the weather

Right now it's 70 degrees in our fair city, which is more than 40's in the North and 30's in the Middle East.

[YoMamma]

Also after the reading line up came out today. I believe florence/Justice is definitely going to be playing at lolla.

For anyone who hasn't seen it yet, here are Reading's performers:

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/424973_10151398968615065_758390064_23336744_214312 2733_n.jpg

[Thisismyname]

only if they bring The Cure with them.

All three plz.

[snoopydoggy2002]

maybe nikoljaz's little contact last year who said the cure was playing, heard wrong and it was this year. (yeah im bringing back the cure talk to this discussion)

[nikkirkpatrick]

seems to happen from time to time. black star and roo, most recently.

[Irving_Red]

Well fuck, if Paramore and Kasabian and be top-billed, I guess Sigur Ros is a real possibility.

[snoopydoggy2002]

Well fuck, if Paramore and Kasabian and be top-billed, I guess Sigur Ros is a real possibility.

Huh?

[JML]

Well fuck, if Paramore and Kasabian and be top-billed, I guess Sigur Ros is a real possibility.

The US =/= The UK

[Krentistthedentist]

Agreed. The ocean makes it really hard for UK culture to make its way to the US.

[hux90]

The US =/= The UK

Agreed. Kasabian hasn't sold out a 1000 capacity theatre here in Montreal, whereas TBK have practically sold out an arena.

[SecondSet]

Me either. Maybe I just misunderstood secondset. But I'm pretty sure that's what he said.

You would be

[arbee]

Agreed. Kasabian hasn't sold out a 1000 capacity theatre here in Montreal, whereas TBK have practically sold out an arena.

ewww

[SecondSet]

Can everyone talking about SHM as a #6 please point to the other bands that have headlined MSG that they think are #s 4 and 5?

[thombjorke.]

maybe nikoljaz's little contact last year who said the cure was playing, heard wrong and it was this year. (yeah im bringing back the cure talk to this discussion)

Too bad we'll never be able to ask him since he's leaving "forever".

[Driftwood]

I have an awful feeling that Adele / Taylor Swift, RHCP, Black Keys and SHM are going to be four of the headliners.

[carligula]

Can everyone talking about SHM as a #6 please point to the other bands that have headlined MSG that they think are #s 4 and 5?

If Deadmau5 can be billed at #6under MMJ, I don't see why SHM would need to be billed any higher than #6. Either way, I think the discussion is pointless. There will be three South stage headliners and probably 3 North stage headliners. I think most people are expecting an EDM act as a North stage headliner. Daft Punk is probably the only electronic act that's big enough to headline the South stage at Lolla right now.

[Nile19]

I have an awful feeling that Adele / Taylor Swift, RHCP, Black Keys and SHM are going to be four of the headliners.

Taylor Swift?? Really? That sounds like the worst idea

[concertgoer]

Yeah C3 isn't booking Taylor Swift.

[Krentistthedentist]

Taylor is too adorable to headline Lolla.

[SecondSet]

I don't recall Deadmau5 headlining MSG. I believe SHM would be billed higher than #6 because they are a bigger draw than competing 5-6s Florence, Sigur Ros, Wilco, Beck, and maybe even Jack White or Bjork.

[Willy]

he edited it.
could still happen, but i don't see reason to believe it yet.

Some saw what I posted before I edited it last night, I edited it because the source didn't want me being so forthcoming. All I can say is it's a done deal they will be there. I am sure this is coming across like the BJ in Ohio for the security guard but I can assure you this info comes from a very reliable source. Anyone up for a beer bet?

[MadBird11]

Lolla headliner rules:

Nobody older than Perry
No blacks besides Kanye
No women with no prior history with the festival

[concertgoer]

Lolla headliner rules:

Nobody older than Perry
No blacks besides Kanye
No women with no prior history with the festival

Haha I really like this post

[sleeping]

Nobody older than Perry
I starting Wikipedia-ing to check this one, and was shocked to learn that Dave Gahan is three years younger than Perry.

edit: Robert Smith is younger than Perry by about three weeks :D

[Thisismyname]

I don't recall Deadmau5 headlining MSG.

XD

[Driftwood]

(The Shins) The Black Keys vs SHM (Miike Snow)
(Florence) Adele vs Sigur Ros (Garbage)
(Silversun Pickups) RHCP vs Passion Pit (Gotye)

Ugh.

[MadBird11]

Friday and Saturday aren't so ugh-worthy to me.

[Driftwood]

I edited to fill in the subs.

[sleeping]

(The Shins) The Black Keys vs SHM (Miike Snow)
(Florence) Adele vs Sigur Ros (Garbage)
(Silversun Pickups) RHCP vs Passion Pit (Gotye)
...but this would be pretty terrible.

[Driftwood]

I feel like that's the worst it could be (and it still has Sigur Ros and Garbage). Please let that be the worst.

[Krentistthedentist]

...but this would be pretty terrible.

Any scenario in which I end up at RHCP is, in fact, fucking terrible.

[concertgoer]

There is always the Grove

[Driftwood]

I have M83 and Santigold in 7:30 slots. Which day(s) can Justice play / are they likely to play?

[MadBird11]

Not Saturday

[concertgoer]

I have M83 and Santigold in 7:30 slots. Which day(s) can Justice play / are they likely to play?

I don't see them clashing with Passion Pit. Anyway Passion Pit won't be a headliner.

[wanny]

I have an awful feeling that Adele / Taylor Swift, RHCP, Black Keys and SHM are going to be four of the headliners.

What is wrong with those last three?

[MadBird11]

What is wrong with those last three?

You serious?

[Krentistthedentist]

What is wrong with those last three?

Get fucked, misogynist.

[wanny]

You serious?

Im seeing RHCP, black keys, and SHM right? I don't get whats wrong with those three headlining

[nanatod]

Im seeing RHCP, black keys, and SHM right? I don't get whats wrong with those three headlining

the problem with rhcp is that john frusciante is not playing guitar for the band these days. the problem with the black keys is that they've played chicago lollapalooza at least 3 times, and auerbach played solo one year. the problem with shm is that they aren't the chemical brothers, kraftwerk, the prodigy, orbital, or daft punk.

[MadBird11]

the problem with rhcp is that john frusciante is not playing guitar for the band these days. the problem with the black keys is that they've played chicago lollapalooza at least 3 times, and auerbach played solo one year. the problem with shm is that they aren't the chemical brothers, kraftwerk, the prodigy, orbital, or daft punk.

All of this, except I would also add that SHM are awful.

[glitterbacon]

Get fucked, misogynist.

actual LOL

[concertgoer]

Just curious Madbird have you ever listened to SHM?

[MadBird11]

Just curious Madbird have you ever listened to SHM?

Yup. You?

[concertgoer]

Yup. You?

Yeah, they are pretty meh.

[thombjorke.]

Yeah, they are pretty meh.

I think that the board paints a lot of bands as being unbelievably awful when they are in fact "just meh".

[MadBird11]

Yeah, they are pretty meh.

I will admit that I didn't know who they were until the Coachella lineup came out.

Wish I could go back to those days.

[Thisismyname]

Welcome to the internet.

It'd be pretty boring around here if all we did was "well, they were ok, but these guys were slightly better" all day.