It Starts Now: Volume Four - 2012 Lollapalooza Headliner Speculation

[concertgoer]

Questionable subs in the last few years: Hot Chip, Cee-Lo, Ween, Wolfmother, Bloc Party, Thievery Corp

That's true
I still think they would be a 4:00 main stage act though
I have never seen them so I would be down with them at Lolla

[IAmScareMongering]

I don't really remember Ween, Bloc Party, or Thievery Corporation being discussed as questionable subs (although I wasn't on the board in '08).

[Broc1123]

Bloc Party was a definite sub.

[concertgoer]

No I remember there being some discussion about whether or not Bloc Party was big enough to be a sub in 2008
C3 blew their load booking 4 huge headliners so the subs were pretty small
Sort of like this year

[stelles75]

Bloc Party is a possibility for next year. New album will drop by then. They might could sub these days, I think. Love them.

[IAmScareMongering]

New album better be good, they haven't released anything I've enjoyed since A Weekend in the City.

[concertgoer]

The only song that I liked from the last album was Flux
Bloc Party aftershow at HOB in 08 was awesome though

[nikolajz1]

I was at the Racs so sadly I missed them.

[IAmScareMongering]

R.E.M.*RHCP*Katy Perry
Beastie Boys*Wilco*Justice

R.E.M. vs. Justice
Katy Perry vs. Beastie Boys
RHCP vs. Wilco

[Unlikely Japan]

If C3 books Wilco again they should make them play Summerteeth or Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.

[dij22]

My monthly guess/expansion:


Metallica * The Cure * Kanye West
Phish * Wilco * Vampire Weekend
Drake * Yeah Yeah Yeahs * The Shins * Norah Jones
Animal Collective * The Offspring
George Clinton & Parliament Funkadelic * Bon Iver * The Avett Brothers
Wiz Khalifa * Robyn * Kaiser Chiefs * Mastodon * Dirty Projectors
Sleigh Bells * James Blake * Deerhunter * Dr. Dog
The Walkmen *The Tallest Man on Earth * The Sword


Mastodon > (The Sword) > The Offspring > (George Clinton) > Metallica vs. Kaiser Chiefs > (Dr. Dog) > The Shins > (DJ) > Vampire Weekend

Dirty Projectors > (Deerhunter) > Yeah Yeah Yeahs > (Robyn) > The Cure vs. The Avett Brothers > (The Tallest Man on Earth) > Norah Jones > (DJ) > Wilco

Wiz Khalifa > (The Walkmen) > Drake > (Bon Iver) > Kanye West vs. Sleigh Bells > (James Blake) > Animal Collective > (DJ) > Phish

[WretchedSkye2113]

that would be fucking ill.
only complaint i'd make is that Offspring and Mastodon are too low, but i'm incredibly biased towards both so i could be blowing them out of proportion.

[dij22]

My sausage fingers pressed enter too early, I added a few more bands and updated the order a tad bit.

[Driftwood]

How are a a band that sold out the Aragon months before their show and playing 8,000 - 10,000 capacity venues in other places playing at 4:30?

[concertgoer]

R.E.M.*RHCP*Katy Perry
Beastie Boys*Wilco*Justice

R.E.M. vs. Justice
Katy Perry vs. Beastie Boys
RHCP vs. Wilco

I would be very happy being able to see R.E.M, Beastie Boys and Wilco.

[concertgoer]

that would be fucking ill.
only complaint i'd make is that Offspring and Mastodon are too low, but i'm incredibly biased towards both so i could be blowing them out of proportion.

I could see The Offspring as a sub for sure

[dij22]

I have a feeling that the Avett Brothers will always be underbilled at festivals, even if it's not logical.

[WretchedSkye2113]

I could see The Offspring as a sub for sure

i'm also not sure offspring would be on the same side as metallica, the sword, and mastodon. but with that lineup i s'pose it makes sense

[dij22]

Side note: I hope Yeah Yeah Yeahs headline Pitchfork instead of subbing at Lolla.

[Krentistthedentist]

Think they might be a little big, but who knows.

[Audiobully]

I have a feeling that the Avett Brothers will always be underbilled at festivals, even if it's not logical.

it definitely seems that way

[IAmScareMongering]

If C3 books Wilco again they should make them play Summerteeth or Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.

This seems rather pointless, as they already play a ton of YHF songs already. And I would definitely miss stuff from Being There and A Ghost is Born.

[johnd12751]

Red Hot Chili Peppers * R.E.M. * Daft Punk
Interpol * Widespread Panic * TV on the Radio
Iggy Pop * Primus * The Shins * The Decemberists
Florence and the Machine * Matt and Kim

(Iggy Pop) Red Hot Chili Peppers vs TV on the Radio (The Decemberists)
(Matt and Kim) Daft Punk vs Interpol (The Shins)
(Primus) R.E.M. vs Widespread Panic (Florence and the Machine)

[concertgoer]

In that scenario I would flip TVOTR with The Decemberists

[Broc1123]

Stop. Interpol 4th? They play the Riv last time through.

[Krentistthedentist]

At this point, I'm not even sure Interpol could headline.
Even when they did "headline," they were billed 7th.

[Broc1123]

Yes exactly. I should have made myself more clear. I think Interpol would sub, but barely. (Like in a year like 2010 they'd play 4/4:30, but like 2008/11 they'd sub.)

[concertgoer]

If Interpol would have played in 2010 they would have been a 6/6:30 act for sure

[Krentistthedentist]

Interpol would be a sub in any year.

[concertgoer]

Agreed

[MadBird11]

If C3 books Wilco again they should make them play Summerteeth or Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.

No.


My monthly guess/expansion:


Metallica * The Cure * Kanye West
Phish * Wilco * Vampire Weekend
Drake * Yeah Yeah Yeahs * The Shins * Norah Jones
Animal Collective * The Offspring
George Clinton & Parliament Funkadelic * Bon Iver * The Avett Brothers
Wiz Khalifa * Robyn * Kaiser Chiefs * Mastodon * Dirty Projectors
Sleigh Bells * James Blake * Deerhunter * Dr. Dog
The Walkmen *The Tallest Man on Earth * The Sword


Mastodon > (The Sword) > The Offspring > (George Clinton) > Metallica vs. Kaiser Chiefs > (Dr. Dog) > The Shins > (DJ) > Vampire Weekend

Dirty Projectors > (Deerhunter) > Yeah Yeah Yeahs > (Robyn) > The Cure vs. The Avett Brothers > (The Tallest Man on Earth) > Norah Jones > (DJ) > Wilco

Wiz Khalifa > (The Walkmen) > Drake > (Bon Iver) > Kanye West vs. Sleigh Bells > (James Blake) > Animal Collective > (DJ) > Phish

Ok.


Interpol would be a sub in any year.

Yes.

I think I covered it all.

[xbadx1233]

Would Mastodon really play Lolla?

[Broc1123]

Yeah I guess they'd probably sub no matter what. But not over any of the subs except for Wolfmother in 2010.

[Driftwood]

it definitely seems that way

Based on what?

[johnd12751]

they headlined Norwegian Wood, not that that really means anything.

[Krentistthedentist]

Would Mastodon really play Lolla?

I'm sure they would if C3 had the balls to book them.

[TonyPicker690]

If C3 books Wilco again they should make them play Summerteeth or Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.

If they book them again they should let them play for 3 hours

[nikolajz1]

Kanye West performing MBDTF vs. Phish
Kanye West performing The College Dropout vs Phish
The Throne vs Phish.

[dij22]

Kanye West performing MBDTF vs. Phish
Kanye West performing The College Dropout vs Phish
The Throne vs Phish.

.

[IAmScareMongering]

If they book them again they should let them play for 3 hours
I'll settle for 2 and half.


Kanye West performing MBDTF vs. Phish
Kanye West performing The College Dropout vs Phish
The Throne vs Phish.

Don't conflict ktd like that!

[Krentistthedentist]

Three nights of Phish can't wait.

[nikolajz1]

It's gonna be so amazing.

[WretchedSkye2113]

Kanye West performing MBDTF vs. Phish
Kanye West performing The College Dropout vs Phish
The Throne vs Phish.

wow. you managed to pick the only 3 ye albums i care about and put them against the only jam band i care about.
fucking hell.

[stelles75]

Hey! Let's leave Interpol outta this... jerks! I loved their headlining set back in 1987!

Back to Bloc Party, I'm praying Russel punches Kele in the face and says "Play your guitar, dickbag!" and they put out a rock album again.

[Broc1123]

It'd be so awesome if Bloc Party did another album like their first two. But that feels so unlikely. Intimacy isn't bad, I actually enjoy a lot of the songs. But it's just blah to me. The older songs are just much more interesting.

[symbionese]

would it be awesome?

[Broc1123]

Yeah, awesome.

[stelles75]

Just a perfect example of a band who thinks they needed to keep their sound fresh. Rarely works. The first album was such a great straightforward rock album, I'm not sure why they felt it was okay to be 80% electronic by their third album. Was a bad idea. Hopefully Kele has gotten a lot of it out of his system, at least with regards to poisoning Bloc Party's sound any further.

[Broc1123]

I'm hoping the solo thing got him over it.

[Unlikely Japan]

If they book them again they should let them play for 3 hours

If they do play, I assume they would get the same slot MMJ had this year. They rarely play Chicago these days, so I don't see why they would come back to the same festival they've already played twice. Is their new album going to change things? I dunno, but they haven't changed their set list much since the first time they played lolla.

[Krentistthedentist]

David Bowie/ Bruce Springsteen & the E-Street Band Featuring the Ghost of Clarence/ The Throne
LCD Soundsystem Slayer Blur

and I can be in 2 places at once.

[nikolajz1]

Preferences based off of that.
I'd 100% want to see Bruce, Bowie, and LCD Soundsystem.
But fuck you for making me choose.

[Krentistthedentist]

It would be
The Throne vs Blur
Bruce vs LCD
Bowie vs Slayer

[WretchedSkye2113]

It would be
The Throne vs Blur
Bruce vs LCD
Bowie vs Slayer

the worst.

[nikolajz1]

It would be
The Throne vs Blur
Bruce vs LCD (I HAVE NO CLUE)
Bowie vs Slayer

ughhhhhhhh

[concertgoer]

Blur, Bruce and Bowie for me

[nikolajz1]

I think I'd probably see Bruce after thinking about it.

[WretchedSkye2113]

i would get single day passes for Friday and Sunday.
the fuck.

[concertgoer]

I cant believe that you don't like The Boss

[WretchedSkye2113]

really?
he's kinda horrible.

i mean not LCD horrible. but still.

[concertgoer]

You are kinda horrible

[nikolajz1]

You are kinda horrible

+100000000

[WretchedSkye2113]

gayngbangin'.

[stelles75]

Bowie vs. Slayer might be one of the worst conflicts I could possibly imagine.

[concertgoer]

gayngbangin'.

Well at least we still have The Foos and like a 1000 other bands;)

[WretchedSkye2113]

it's like 2010 (best 2 on Sunday, worst 2 on Saturday) all over again, but a million times worse.

[arbee]

Bowie vs. Slayer might be one of the worst conflicts I could possibly imagine.

seriously?

[El Goodo]

I'd go Bowie, and would love to see the show with his #1 fan.

[WretchedSkye2113]

everyone would go Bowie.
he's Radiohead status. unopposed, plz.

[arbee]

I'd go Bowie, and would love to see the show with his #1 fan.

I don't know who his number 1 fan is but it's not me. There are lots of people that have seen him far more times than I have.

[Krentistthedentist]

i would get single day passes for Friday and Sunday.
the fuck.

Don't be an idiot.

[Krentistthedentist]

seriously?

It's usually a pretty bad conflict when two bands that rule play each other.

[Audiobully]

Bowie may be #1 on the good ole' bucket list for me.

[stelles75]

seriously?

I've never seen Bowie and he is arguably the oldest living artist that has been influential to almost every genre of music we discuss on this board. I've still yet to see Slayer and they are one of the most influential metal bands, and also one of my favorites.

I guess typing that out and then reading it and letting it sink in, I'd have to see Bowie... but there would be a few moments of twitching involved as I tried to force my legs to walk to Bowie's stage.

[dij22]

I don't trust somebody who would see Bruce over LCD at a festival in 2012.

[Thisismyname]

Hm.

Why's that?

[symbionese]

I've never seen Bowie and he is arguably the oldest living artist that has been influential to almost every genre of music we discuss on this board.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_p92NLCnDhD0/RvVhaFCZsyI/AAAAAAAAAIY/5Gi94AL_kr4/s320/loureed.jpg

[symbionese]

http://www.sweetslyrics.com/images/img_gal/7268_John+Cale.jpg

[symbionese]

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/lk/f/a/478cf46cdd20625b7d62615101cbdf99/1089566.jpg

[stelles75]

I did say arguably. :)

[Krentistthedentist]

I don't trust somebody who would see Bruce over LCD at a festival in 2012.

I have seen LCD thrice
and Bruce 0 times.

Pretty easy choice.

[nanatod]

glad i saw cale at cabaret metro with chris spedding on guitar, tucker at empty bottle, and reed at memorial stadium, hoosierdome, and butler field. desperately need to see doug yule.

in reply to symbionese.

[WretchedSkye2113]

pretty sure i'd try heroin and go check out Skrillex at Perry's that night over seeing either of those 2.

[MadBird11]

Bowie vs. Slayer might be one of the worst conflicts I could possibly imagine.

No it's not.

[nikolajz1]

pretty sure i'd try heroin and go check out Skrillex at Perry's that night over seeing either of those 2.

But you'd lose your penis.

[Unlikely Japan]

Did you hear that from a DARE officer?

[IAmScareMongering]

wow. you managed to pick the only 3 ye albums i care about and put them against the only jam band i care about.
fucking hell.

Honest question: Have you listened to the other 3?


I don't trust somebody who would see Bruce over LCD at a festival in 2012.

I've seen both, and I'd pick Bruce again easily.

[stelles75]

No it's not.

For ME. But I did refute myself, so there.

[WretchedSkye2113]

Honest question: Have you listened to the other 3?


yes. utter garbage, i say.
though i admit i find myself dancing to "Diamonds From Sierra Leone" often.

[Broc1123]

I'm not really sure how you can like those 3 albums and not care about Late Registration or Graduation.

[Krentistthedentist]

yes. utter garbage, i say.
though i admit i find myself dancing to "Diamonds From Sierra Leone" often.

Of course you'd pick the worst song off late registration.
Of course.

[IAmScareMongering]

yes. utter garbage, i say.
though i admit i find myself dancing to "Diamonds From Sierra Leone" often.

If nothing else, you need to listen to Late Registration again.

[Unlikely Japan]

That, or listen to 808 & Heartbreak again.

[IAmScareMongering]

Of course you'd pick the worst song off late registration.
Of course.

Gonna have to give that title to "Bring Me Down".

[concertgoer]

Gonna have to give that title to "Bring Me Down".

Agreed

[KevBlu42]

QotSA would make a lot of sense for a nice long headlining set opposite Jay-Z (or Kanye or whoever the hip-hop/pop headliner is), right?

What are some other rock acts of similar stature who might be able to fill that sort of role?

Offspring?
Rise Against?

[symbionese]

skrewdriver.

[Nile19]

Dodgson should headline
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AERwgNvgMmc&feature=feedrec

[vargo05]

Radiohead vs. Adele
Jay-Z/Kanye vs. Black Keys
RHCP vs. Justice

[Audiobully]

Probably already been asked, but why do so many people think Radiohead is going to play this next summer?

[symbionese]

they think radiohead is going to play every summer.

[vargo05]

I have no inclination they'll be there, but, to put it simply, I couldn't find a better choice to fill out the lineup that could be worthy of the south stage.

[IAmScareMongering]

R.E.M.

[MadBird11]

The Cure

[Mike53421]

Insane Clown Posse

[Greg Nasty]

The Cure

Stop.

[danzip53]

Insane Clown Posse

http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/d/dc/Combo-breaker-2.jpg

[Audiobully]

Limp Bizkit * Insane Clown Posse * Creed
Kid Rock * Korn * Puddle Of Mudd

[nikkirkpatrick]

Kid Rock would play the south field :/

[Audiobully]

Damn, good point.

[symbionese]

I have no inclination they'll be there

no shit.

[xbadx1233]

I saw a guy in the street today banging on a Rubbermaid container. He told me he would be headlining Lolla 2012

[arbee]

I saw a guy in the street today banging on a Rubbermaid container. He told me he would be headlining Lolla 2012

Better than Radiohead.

[xbadx1233]

Better than Radiohead.

Actually I later found out that the guy was Thom Yorke :/

[KevBlu42]

Is Marilyn Manson a possibility? They haven't played in Chicago (or anywhere else) since 2009 and have a new album on the way.

[MadBird11]

While everything is a possibility at this point, would you honestly want to see Marilyn Manson?

[oasisfan]

does anyone honestly want to see marilyn manson? excluding juggalos cuz they aren't real people

[KevBlu42]

While everything is a possibility at this point, would you honestly want to see Marilyn Manson?

I wouldn't. But this is the "speculation" thread, not the "wish list" thread. Am I right?

[MadBird11]

Just making sure.

[nikkirkpatrick]

I would see manson subheadline if the opposing acts didn't catch my fancy.

flame on crazy shitheads

[WretchedSkye2113]

seen Manson plenty of times.
sometimes great live. sometimes shit live.

most of his new music isn't great but he still plays the oldies.
would definitely see him as long as he wasn't against something really solid.

[nanatod]

seen Manson plenty of times.


only saw him once, at ozzfest 1997. seemed like an alice cooper ripoff at the time, fifteen years too late.

[oasisfan]

i would not go anywhere near marilyn manson if he played lolla

[nikolajz1]

I'd probably see him.

[oasisfan]

i don't know what it is about him but i just do not like any of his music

[El Goodo]

I know what it is: he sucks.

[hbankhead]

I might watch him just to see the spectacle.

[nikolajz1]

I might watch him just to see the spectacle.

exactly.

[nikkirkpatrick]

exactly.

becoming a self0fellatio afficianado? ;)

[nikolajz1]

becoming a self0fellatio afficianado? ;)

actuloling

[concertgoer]

If Manson just played songs that came out before 2002 I would probably check out his set

[nikkirkpatrick]

Coma White is a really good song

[sleeping]

I was a pretty big fan of Marilyn Manson back when Marilyn Manson was the name of a band, and not just a fat, drunk, pasty dude with a bunch of anonymous sidemen. That said, I've been to three or four MM concerts, and they were all pretty damn fun.

[danzip53]

I might watch him just to see the spectacle.

same reason i saw Lady Gaga...but I do thoroughly regret that decision...so I probably wouldn't see Manson

[Krentistthedentist]

Hey danzip
are you a misfits fan?

[KevBlu42]

Coma White is a really good song

I do agree with that. Honestly though, I've never seen them so throw them on the North stage and I'd probably watch MM than whatever pop act they get next year. I would have watched him over Eminem this year.

[danzip53]

Hey danzip
are you a misfits fan?

Not particularly

[VampireWeekday]

Okay so listening to Wilco's new album, The Whole Love, right now and I am decided that C3 would be fools to not book Wilco next year. They got their swagga back... as if they ever even lost it.

[joelmanfu]

Okay so listening to Wilco's new album, The Whole Love, right now and I am decided that C3 would be fools to not book Wilco next year. They got their swagga back... as if they ever even lost it.

i didn't know Wilco had "swagga"

[johnd12751]

Temple of the Dog subbing? probably a stupid idea.

[nikkirkpatrick]

I'd be down

[concertgoer]

That would rule

[TonyPicker690]

Okay so listening to Wilco's new album, The Whole Love, right now and I am decided that C3 would be fools to not book Wilco next year. They got their swagga back... as if they ever even lost it.

I hope they book them because Wilco's chicago date is right during my finals week. Play some weekend shows Wilco!

[Audiobully]

Pearl Jam * Red Hot Chili Peppers * Beastie Boys
The Black Keys * Death Cab For Cutie * Justice

[Broc1123]

2 repeat #1s and 5 repeats overall. Seems very unlikely.

[joelmanfu]

Pearl Jam * Red Hot Chili Peppers * Beastie Boys
The Black Keys * Death Cab For Cutie * Justice

my guess.... subs might be too big

Queens of the Stone Age < Pearl Jam vs. Death Cab For Cutie > The Decemberists

Primus < Red Hot Chili Peppers vs. Justice > Bloc Party

The Dead Weather < The Black Keys vs. Beastie Boys > TV On The Radio

[nikkirkpatrick]

Meh

[concertgoer]

I would be pretty happy if I got to see PJ, Beasties and Justice

[thelastonealive]

my guess.... subs might be too big

Queens of the Stone Age < Pearl Jam vs. Death Cab For Cutie > The Decemberists

Primus < Red Hot Chili Peppers vs. Justice > Bloc Party

The Dead Weather < The Black Keys vs. Beastie Boys > TV On The Radio

I'd go to this. My friends would abandon me at Justice, but besides that, it'd be a pretty conflict-free festival for me, with minimal running around.

[nikolajz1]

my guess.... subs might be too big

Queens of the Stone Age < Pearl Jam vs. Death Cab For Cutie > The Decemberists

Primus < Red Hot Chili Peppers vs. Justice > Bloc Party

The Dead Weather < The Black Keys vs. Beastie Boys > TV On The Radio

Death Cab, Justice, The Black Keys. I'd be ok with that.

[concertgoer]

Wow you would totally be doing that Lolla wrong:p

[IAmScareMongering]

Don't see them having 4 repeat acts as headliners (yes I'm aware it was 3 last year, but two of those acts didn't headline the last time they appeared).

[concertgoer]

Yeah I agree no way are we getting RCHP and PJ next year
I think RHCP are a basically a lock for 2012 and I could see PJ coming back in 2013

[Broc1123]

Not to be rude, because I know some people don't follow this stuff as close as us, but what would motivate someone to put the Dead Weather in a prediction for next year?

[concertgoer]

RHCP-The Cure- Blink 182- Black Keys- Fleet Foxes- Justice

RHCP vs Justice
Blink 182 vs Fleet Foxes
The Cure vs Black Keys

[concertgoer]

I was really temped to replace either The Keys or Blink with The Killers but I am not sure if C3 would bring them back so soon

[nikkirkpatrick]

Put RHCP vs the Black Keys and i'd buy a 3-Day

[dogma]

Red Hot Chilli Peppers * Madonna * Beastie Boys *
The Cure * Prodigy * Wilco * Ministry * Elvis Costello

[Audiobully]

Don't see them having 4 repeat acts as headliners (yes I'm aware it was 3 last year, but two of those acts didn't headline the last time they appeared).

It may be another tough year to get originals. If it is a rough market, snagging two bands with the popularity of PJ and RHCP to go along with potentially the first Beasties show since 2008, would make for a decent top three.

I would also be happy with having Black keys and Justice.

[Irving_Red]

Red Hot Chilli Peppers * Madonna * Beastie Boys *
The Cure * Prodigy * Wilco * Ministry * Elvis Costello

Lol are we still talking about 2012?

[Krentistthedentist]

my guess.... subs might be too big

Queens of the Stone Age < Pearl Jam vs. Death Cab For Cutie > The Decemberists

Primus < Red Hot Chili Peppers vs. Justice > Bloc Party

The Dead Weather < The Black Keys vs. Beastie Boys > TV On The Radio

I'd probably go to this shit.

[johnd12751]

I just don't see Justice at North or South, I see them headlining Perry's then Tiesto taking the North.

[IAmScareMongering]

If Phoenix can headline, Justice can.

[fishkingpies]

not saying justice can or can't headline, but until their new album drops, they are in no way as popular as phoenix. i haven't heard any justice songs used in car commercials yet and i think that's the new benchmark for lolla headliners.

[Thisismyname]

i haven't heard any justice songs used in car commercials yet and i think that's the new benchmark for lolla headliners.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXryKQxqmME

[IAmScareMongering]

Besides that: "Civilization" was used in that major Adidas marketing campaign this summer, while ESPN had a commercial with "D.A.N.C.E" during a large part of the 2010-2111 college basketball season.

[dogma]

Lol are we still talking about 2012?

um yup, just talking headliners, and the usual legacy act. I'm not talking mid or lower tier where most of our "newer' acts would be. Obviously our headliners tend to be acts with some type of a catalog worthy of a headlining slot

rhcp - very probable
madonna - new album, tour to follow (lady gaga type get)
beastie boys - when they come back, they will be here
the cure - predicted every year, this year's english get
prodigy - we are limited with headliner worthy acts in this genre, and we know there is going to be one
wilco - yeah, it's time for them again
ministry - just announced reunion shows for june 2012 - and only 4 cities
elvis costello - this year's lou reed, cars, etc.

obviously they will be at least 122 more bands

[Audiobully]

If Paul Barker isn't involved, then it isn't worth a Ministry 'reunion'. Is he involved this time around?

[dogma]

If Paul Barker isn't involved, then it isn't worth a Ministry 'reunion'. Is he involved this time around?

he is deceased, I think the thinking is Al can do anything and call it whatever he wants. he could bring back pieces of the original lolla era line up of martin atkins, chris connelly, guest vocalists galore ....ian mckay, jello, etc. and pull from his own back catalog of projects, 1000 homos, revco, murder inc. etc.

[Five_Hole]

Paul Barker may be dead to Al but he is still very much alive.

[Nile19]

as I have said, (for years), this justice talk pleases me
good...good...

[dogma]

Paul Barker may be dead to Al but he is still very much alive.

haha, you're right, it was paul raven that died last year

[Audiobully]

*disregard*

[joelmanfu]

I don't see them bringing The Cure.

[3dthinker]

What are you talking about? This year's top four are going to be Bowie Radiohead The Cure and The White Stripes

[danzip53]

I think if Jack White plays Lolla it'll be him with ICP

[Krentistthedentist]

I don't see them bringing The Cure.

Yeah. The only people the Cure are a good value to are Create a Fest participants.

[Audiobully]

I think if Jack White plays Lolla it'll be him with ICP

Nah, Raconteurs

[johnd12751]

yes racounters please.

[Irving_Red]

I see Justice headlining before The Prodigy, although I'd take either of them. RHCP are almost guaranteed, even though their new album sucks. Didn't know about the Ministry reunion, but I still don't think they're very relevant. Along the same note, I didn't know Madonna was releasing a new album, but really, Madonna?! And as much as everyone here hates to admit it, The Cure probably don't have much of a chance of being there. Like you even said, they are predicted every year, and they're never here.... Elvis Costello just did a US tour, so if he was going to be at Lolla, it would have been this year.

Here's what I think will go down (pretty much similar to what everyone's been saying):
The Throne * RHCP * REM (maybe Radiohead)
Justice * Death Cab * Bon Iver

[JML]

I think you're grossly overestimating Bon Iver's popularity

[danzip53]

I still don't think RHCP will be there...mostly because I don't want them to be there

[arbee]

who does?

[oasisfan]

the bro's

[arbee]

Garpo.

[oasisfan]

i'd probably see them if they were against the black keys who is probably gonna be there too

[danzip53]

I'd see The Black Keys 10 more times before I'd care about RHCP

[oasisfan]

and thats what separates me from you i'd only see the keys once just to say id seen them

[Irving_Red]

I would watch RHCP do BSSM and then walk over to The Black Keys.

[symbionese]

and thats what separates me from you i'd only see the keys once just to say id seen them

and yet, what brings you right back is your shared shit taste.

[oasisfan]

pretty much

[symbionese]

I'd see The Black Keys 10 more times before I'd care about RHCP

keys peaked seven, eight years ago. quit thinking your goddamn dick clark.

[KevBlu42]

Just to throw something a little different out there (I got tired of seeing RHCP, Radiohead, The Black Keys, etc. in every list):

Metallica -- Jay-Z -- R.E.M.
No Doubt -- Robyn -- Queens of the Stone Age

Seems plausible, right?

I'd go:

Metallica vs. Robyn
Jay-Z vs. Queens of the Stone Age
No Doubt vs. R.E.M.

[symbionese]

Metallica -- Jay-Z -- R.E.M.
No Doubt -- Robyn -- Queens of the Stone Age

you're a regular columbus there.

[Krentistthedentist]

keys peaked seven, eight years ago. quit thinking your goddamn dick clark.

RHCP= Red Hot Chili Peppers

[dij22]

Just to throw something a little different out there (I got tired of seeing RHCP, Radiohead, The Black Keys, etc. in every list):

Metallica -- Jay-Z -- R.E.M.
No Doubt -- Robyn -- Queens of the Stone Age

Seems plausible, right?

I'd go:

Metallica vs. Robyn
Jay-Z vs. Queens of the Stone Age
No Doubt vs. R.E.M.

wat

[Broc1123]

Wow. I guess Robyn has blown up.

[arbee]

Wow. I guess Robyn has blown up.

Yea she has, but not that much.

[nikolajz1]

Red Hot Chili Peppers- Jay-Z- The Cure
My Chemical Romance- Wilco- Bon Iver

Jay-Z (Lupe Fiasco) vs Bon Iver (The Shins)
The Cure (Interpol) vs. My Chemical Romance (Queens of the Stone Age)
RHCP (Primus) vs. Wilco (m83)

[concertgoer]

Seems pretty realalistic, though I would swap out Bon Iver with Fleet Foxes and have him subheadine.

[Krentistthedentist]

Red Hot Chili Peppers- Jay-Z- The Cure
My Chemical Romance- Wilco- Bon Iver

Jay-Z (Lupe Fiasco) vs Bon Iver (The Shins)
The Cure (Interpol) vs. My Chemical Romance (Queens of the Stone Age)
RHCP (Primus) vs. Wilco (m83)

Why would you put the two best subs up against each other?

[nikkirkpatrick]

m83 vs primus would suck balls

[Broc1123]

I was being sarcastic about the Robyn thing, Arbee.

That lineup does seem pretty realistic. No way Bon Iver plays Lolla over Pitchfork.

I see this being more realistic:

Red Hot Chili Peppers * The Cure * Blink-182
The Black Keys * Wilco * Vampire Weekend

RHCP vs. Wilco
The Cure vs. The Black Keys
Blink-182 vs. Vampire Weekend

[nikkirkpatrick]

hoping someone good is closing perry's sunday. blink vs vw is fuckin awful.

[sleeping]

Should there be an undercard/non-headliner speculation thread? Not the wishlist thread, but like a place to talk about "these are bands with hype going into 2012" or "these are smaller-name/newer bands you should know about." I'll make it if it'd be a good discussion.

[symbionese]

no.

[nikkirkpatrick]

do it. call it "It Started A While Ago: Volume I -Lollapalooza 2012 Non-Headliner Speculation.

[arbee]

m83 vs primus would suck balls

yea, I'd have nothing to do for an hour.

[Audiobully]

keys peaked seven, eight years ago. quit thinking your goddamn dick clark.

Peaked based on what? Their most recent album is the only one listed as 'gold'. So if their most recent album is their highest selling, how did they peak 8 years ago?

[symbionese]

creatively.

[Krentistthedentist]

whoa, didn't know that derpy argument was ever used around these parts.

[hbankhead]

creatively.

Lame argument. Record sales clearly trend with creativity.

[Audiobully]

nuh uh

[arbee]

do what?

[nikkirkpatrick]

huh

[Krentistthedentist]

Sigh No More best album of the digital era!!!!

[MadBird11]

Lame argument. Record sales clearly trend with creativity.

Just stop. For all our sakes.

[arbee]

Just stop. For all our sakes.

ya must be trolling

[hbankhead]

Just stop. For all our sakes.

That was sarcasm.

[fishkingpies]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXryKQxqmME

lol. guess i need to watch more tv.

[joelmanfu]

Yeah. The only people the Cure are a good value to are Create a Fest participants.

Exactly. People greatly over estimate the popularity of The Cure.

[dij22]

Exactly. People greatly over estimate the popularity of The Cure.

Not really. They'd headline any festival in the country and they'd play arenas on a tour.

[Krentistthedentist]

But the kids don't give a fuck, and they run the fest game these days.

[thelastonealive]

Red Hot Chili Peppers- Jay-Z- The Cure
My Chemical Romance- Wilco- Bon Iver

Jay-Z (Lupe Fiasco) vs Bon Iver (The Shins)
The Cure (Interpol) vs. My Chemical Romance (Queens of the Stone Age)
RHCP (Primus) vs. Wilco (m83)

That's an awful lot of eyeliner for one day on Saturday.

[fiveiron83321]

But the kids don't give a fuck, and they run the fest game these days.

le sigh

sad truth

[xbadx1233]

Anyone think STS9 is a possibility? I mean it seems like all of the big shots have been commenting in that video series that electro music is becoming popular, but yet all the hipsters want the indie/90's throwback bands. STS9 seems like a happy medium between the two. Maybe a Perry's headliner or a sub on the main stage?

[nikkirkpatrick]

band sucks. they'd be perfect. jk

[nanatod]

or a sub on the main stage?

haven't they already been a sub on the main stage, twice?

[nikkirkpatrick]

i think they played @ 4:30 in '09, before Thievery Corporation opened for Depeche Mode.

[WretchedSkye2113]

ugh. just remembered how much i hated the Thievery Corp. vs Decemberists conflict.

[concertgoer]

I like Thievery Corp, but The Decemberists were an easy choice

[WretchedSkye2113]

seeing Decemberists play all of Hazards in the damp rain was pretty awesome. (minus the shit cold wind beforehand)

but i still haven't got to see Thievery Corp and i've seen Decemberists thrice now, so...

[nikkirkpatrick]

maybe they'll play P4KParee

[WretchedSkye2113]

omg Cut/Copy -> Thievery Corp -> Aphex Twin.
so much more win.

[joelmanfu]

But the kids don't give a fuck, and they run the fest game these days.

this

[dr. ace]

Thievery Corp was the worst perfomance I've ever seen at Chicagopalooza.

[hbankhead]

Thievery Corp was one of the best live performances I have seen, but didn't see them at Lolla.

[symbionese]

Thievery Corp was one of the best live performances I have seen.

that's a shame.

[WretchedSkye2113]

Thievery Corp was the worst perfomance I've ever seen at Chicagopalooza.

this makes me feel much better. :)

[oasisfan]

if we get the 4 huge headliners and 2 smaller if Decemberist play would they be a headliner?

[symbionese]

if we get the 4 huge headliners and 2 smaller if Decemberist play would they be a headliner?

depends on who 5 and 7 are.

[Broc1123]

I think the Decemberists would be a 6 next year. But them getting a 75 minute sub spot wouldn't surprise me either.

That being said, I don't see them playing Lolla next year at all.

[hbankhead]

that's a shame.

Not really.

[Broc1123]

Yeah it is. I mean c'mon, Thievery Corporation one of the best shows you've ever seen?

[symbionese]

Not really.

perspective.

[Krentistthedentist]

I didn't think they were as awful as everyone else seemed to.
That said, yeah, how anyone can call that the best show ever is perplexing.

[oasisfan]

he didn't say it was the performance at lolla though did he?

[nikkirkpatrick]

he, in fact, said it was not.

[Krentistthedentist]

I'm aware
Based on that show, I have trouble imagining anyone can call any live performance by them one of the best.

[arbee]

if that's his favourite band/artist then the concert being his fave is not unreasonable